Re: [Freedos-user] Brief notes on using KEYB
Hello Grant, You're right. At current stage, the "modifier keys" operate some extra magic on BIOS variables, and there are YET no commands in KEYB to perform those changes. There will be in the future, but not a near future. Aitor 2007/6/9, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > you won't find the KL files. You will find the KEY (i.e. > > source) files instead, which can be modified (i.e. edited on > > any ordinary TXT file editor) and compiled - that's when the > > KL files appear. > > Yup, I finally figured that out (from reading the "kc" docs). > After trying for a couple hours, I also realized that keyb 2.0 > can't do what I'm trying to do (I was able to map the caps lock > key to other characters, but you can't make a key function as a > modifier (shift/control/caps-lock) using keyb 2.0. It says so > plainly in the keyb docs, but I only noticed it the third time > I read the section on commands. :/ > > I did find a TSR that does pretty much what I want, so I'm all > set to go. > > -- > Grant Edwards grante Yow! Eisenhower!! Your > at mimeograph machine upsets > visi.commy stomach!! > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Brief notes on using KEYB
> you won't find the KL files. You will find the KEY (i.e. > source) files instead, which can be modified (i.e. edited on > any ordinary TXT file editor) and compiled - that's when the > KL files appear. Yup, I finally figured that out (from reading the "kc" docs). After trying for a couple hours, I also realized that keyb 2.0 can't do what I'm trying to do (I was able to map the caps lock key to other characters, but you can't make a key function as a modifier (shift/control/caps-lock) using keyb 2.0. It says so plainly in the keyb docs, but I only noticed it the third time I read the section on commands. :/ I did find a TSR that does pretty much what I want, so I'm all set to go. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Eisenhower!! Your at mimeograph machine upsets visi.commy stomach!! - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Brief notes on using KEYB
Grant Edwards escreveu: > On 2004-12-16, Aitor Santamaría Merino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> For those of you that may find confusing the multiplicity of files used >> by KEYB, you can read some instructions in the FAQ item: >> >> http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/faq/cgi-bin/viewfaq.cgi?faq=Using_FreeDOS/249 >> >> (more info is to be appended with the forthcomming version FD-KEYB 2.0 pre3) >> >> In short, >> >> KEYB.EXE binary to modify the keyboard; uses KL information files >> > > I'm trying to figure out how to change the caps-lock key into a > control key, but I'm baffled by keyb: where do I get these KL > files I keep reading about? I've looked through all of the zip > files, but I don't see any KL files. > > Hi Grant, you won't find the KL files. You will find the KEY (i.e. source) files instead, which can be modified (i.e. edited on any ordinary TXT file editor) and compiled - that's when the KL files appear. Henrique - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Brief notes on using KEYB
On 2007-06-08, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-06-08, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I'm trying to figure out how to change the caps-lock key into >>> a control key, but I'm baffled by keyb: where do I get these >>> KL files I keep reading about? I've looked through all of the >>> zip files, but I don't see any KL files. >> >> Ah. Apparently the supplied "KL" files have .SYS suffixes. I >> assume that a KL file would have a .KL suffix. I'm now able to >> compile a .key file into a .kl file and load it. Now to modify >> the .key file... > > Darn. When I first read through the keyb docs, I didn't notice > that the status of the feature I'm trying to use is "to be > implemented later". It looks like keyb won't do what I want. I found a TSR named swapkey.com that swaps ctrl and caps lock, and it seems to work. The first TSR I tried simply turned caps-lock into another control key, but it wasn't able to install itself. I had forgotten how much work it took to turn DOS into something a Unix geek could deal with... -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'm a GENIUS! I want at to dispute sentence visi.comstructure with SUSAN SONTAG!! - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Brief notes on using KEYB
On 2007-06-08, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm trying to figure out how to change the caps-lock key into >> a control key, but I'm baffled by keyb: where do I get these >> KL files I keep reading about? I've looked through all of the >> zip files, but I don't see any KL files. > > Ah. Apparently the supplied "KL" files have .SYS suffixes. I > assume that a KL file would have a .KL suffix. I'm now able to > compile a .key file into a .kl file and load it. Now to modify > the .key file... Darn. When I first read through the keyb docs, I didn't notice that the status of the feature I'm trying to use is "to be implemented later". It looks like keyb won't do what I want. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Is this going to at involve RAW human ecstasy? visi.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Brief notes on using KEYB
On 2007-06-08, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> For those of you that may find confusing the multiplicity of files used >> by KEYB, you can read some instructions in the FAQ item: >> >> http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/faq/cgi-bin/viewfaq.cgi?faq=Using_FreeDOS/249 >> >> (more info is to be appended with the forthcomming version FD-KEYB 2.0 pre3) >> >> In short, >> >> KEYB.EXE binary to modify the keyboard; uses KL information files > > I'm trying to figure out how to change the caps-lock key into a > control key, but I'm baffled by keyb: where do I get these KL > files I keep reading about? I've looked through all of the zip > files, but I don't see any KL files. Ah. Apparently the supplied "KL" files have .SYS suffixes. I assume that a KL file would have a .KL suffix. I'm now able to compile a .key file into a .kl file and load it. Now to modify the .key file... -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Am I having fun yet? at visi.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Brief notes on using KEYB
On 2004-12-16, Aitor Santamaría Merino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those of you that may find confusing the multiplicity of files used > by KEYB, you can read some instructions in the FAQ item: > > http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/faq/cgi-bin/viewfaq.cgi?faq=Using_FreeDOS/249 > > (more info is to be appended with the forthcomming version FD-KEYB 2.0 pre3) > > In short, > > KEYB.EXE binary to modify the keyboard; uses KL information files I'm trying to figure out how to change the caps-lock key into a control key, but I'm baffled by keyb: where do I get these KL files I keep reading about? I've looked through all of the zip files, but I don't see any KL files. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! If I am elected no one at will ever have to do their visi.comlaundry again! - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Brief notes on using KEYB
Hi, For those of you that may find confusing the multiplicity of files used by KEYB, you can read some instructions in the FAQ item: http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/faq/cgi-bin/viewfaq.cgi?faq=Using_FreeDOS/249 (more info is to be appended with the forthcomming version FD-KEYB 2.0 pre3) In short, KEYB.EXE binary to modify the keyboard; uses KL information files Latest version of KEYB.EXE: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/keyb/kb2pre2x.zip Latest version of a bunch of KL files (by Henrique Peron): - for DOS codepages(*): http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/keyb/kblayout/KPDOS11X.zip - for Windows codepages: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/keyb/kblayout/KPWIN10X.zip KC binary used to create/customize KL files (from human readable KEY files). Latest version of KC (Keyboard Compiler, docs included): http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/keyb/kc110x.zip You may use the following source samples (sources of Henrique's packs), under the GNU GPL: - for DOS codepages: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/keyb/kblayout/KPDOS11S.zip - for Windows codepages: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/keyb/kblayout/KPWIN10S.zip (*) A CODEPAGE is a character set, or if you like, a font. Best wishes, and questions welcome, Aitor --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
