Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser

[Johnpaul Humphrey]

I have tried eLinks on Linux. I was unaware of the full edition

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:09 PM Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>
> Have you tried the more recent compiles that incorporate JavaScript?
> Indeed, there is a text only edition of links, but the full edition for
> the most part works rather well.
> Speaking personally one thing I find frustrating about it is  the fact it
> seems not to support cookies.
> Just my take,
> Kare
>
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Johnpaul Humphrey wrote:
>
> > In my experience, Links is not very compatible with modern web pages.
> > I use it and like it, but it is a text browser. It does not have very
> > much CSS support. My understanding is that the two most
> > feature-complete browsers for DOs are Dillo and Arachne. Maybe someone
> > knows of some more advanced ones.
> > By all means, try out links, but be aware that it is a different
> > experience than your typical browser :)
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:12 PM Dean Galloway  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Andrea and all others in the group:
> >>
> >> Thank you all for your replies regarding Dillo Web Browser.
> >>
> >> I had been under the impression Dillo was a better web browser and may be 
> >> worth the effort to get functioning, but there appears to be more negative 
> >> reports, along with the fact it is not really compatible with day to day 
> >> websites.  I'll probably still leave it in the list of things to tackle, 
> >> just more likely on the back burner.  I'll look more into Links and see 
> >> what I can come up with.
> >>
> >> Thank you again!
> >> Dean.
> >>
> >> On 12/8/2020 3:23 PM, andrea...@tiscali.it wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Il 06.12.2020 22:38 Dean Galloway ha scritto:
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even
> >> started.  I corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success.
> >>
> >> Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be
> >> performed before I can get it going?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Dean.
> >>
> >> I used Dillo and before Arachne- dos browsers - but currently the only dos 
> >> browser still developed is LINKS (Links.twibright.com) both in textual and 
> >> gui mode. It is light and efficient even on old pc
> >> andrea
> >>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser

[Karen Lewellen]

Have you tried the more recent compiles that incorporate JavaScript?
Indeed, there is a text only edition of links, but the full edition for 
the most part works rather well.
Speaking personally one thing I find frustrating about it is  the fact it 
seems not to support cookies.

Just my take,
Kare



On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Johnpaul Humphrey wrote:


In my experience, Links is not very compatible with modern web pages.
I use it and like it, but it is a text browser. It does not have very
much CSS support. My understanding is that the two most
feature-complete browsers for DOs are Dillo and Arachne. Maybe someone
knows of some more advanced ones.
By all means, try out links, but be aware that it is a different
experience than your typical browser :)

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:12 PM Dean Galloway  wrote:


Hello Andrea and all others in the group:

Thank you all for your replies regarding Dillo Web Browser.

I had been under the impression Dillo was a better web browser and may be worth 
the effort to get functioning, but there appears to be more negative reports, 
along with the fact it is not really compatible with day to day websites.  I'll 
probably still leave it in the list of things to tackle, just more likely on 
the back burner.  I'll look more into Links and see what I can come up with.

Thank you again!
Dean.

On 12/8/2020 3:23 PM, andrea...@tiscali.it wrote:


Il 06.12.2020 22:38 Dean Galloway ha scritto:

Hello all,

I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even
started.  I corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success.

Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be
performed before I can get it going?

Thanks,

Dean.

I used Dillo and before Arachne- dos browsers - but currently the only dos 
browser still developed is LINKS (Links.twibright.com) both in textual and gui 
mode. It is light and efficient even on old pc
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser

[Johnpaul Humphrey]

In my experience, Links is not very compatible with modern web pages.
I use it and like it, but it is a text browser. It does not have very
much CSS support. My understanding is that the two most
feature-complete browsers for DOs are Dillo and Arachne. Maybe someone
knows of some more advanced ones.
By all means, try out links, but be aware that it is a different
experience than your typical browser :)

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:12 PM Dean Galloway  wrote:
>
> Hello Andrea and all others in the group:
>
> Thank you all for your replies regarding Dillo Web Browser.
>
> I had been under the impression Dillo was a better web browser and may be 
> worth the effort to get functioning, but there appears to be more negative 
> reports, along with the fact it is not really compatible with day to day 
> websites.  I'll probably still leave it in the list of things to tackle, just 
> more likely on the back burner.  I'll look more into Links and see what I can 
> come up with.
>
> Thank you again!
> Dean.
>
> On 12/8/2020 3:23 PM, andrea...@tiscali.it wrote:
>
>
> Il 06.12.2020 22:38 Dean Galloway ha scritto:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even
> started.  I corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success.
>
> Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be
> performed before I can get it going?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dean.
>
> I used Dillo and before Arachne- dos browsers - but currently the only dos 
> browser still developed is LINKS (Links.twibright.com) both in textual and 
> gui mode. It is light and efficient even on old pc
> andrea
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser

[Dean Galloway]

Hello Andrea and all others in the group:

Thank you all for your replies regarding Dillo Web Browser.

I had been under the impression Dillo was a better web browser and may 
be worth the effort to get functioning, but there appears to be more 
negative reports, along with the fact it is not really compatible with 
day to day websites.  I'll probably still leave it in the list of things 
to tackle, just more likely on the back burner.  I'll look more into 
Links and see what I can come up with.


Thank you again!
Dean.

On 12/8/2020 3:23 PM, andrea...@tiscali.it wrote:


Il 06.12.2020 22:38 Dean Galloway ha scritto:


Hello all,

I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even
started.  I corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success.

Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be
performed before I can get it going?

Thanks,

Dean.

I used Dillo and before Arachne- dos browsers - but currently the 
only dos browser still developed is LINKS (Links.twibright.com) both 
in textual and gui mode. It is light and efficient even on old pc andrea

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser

[andrea936]

  

Il 07.12.2020 00:35 Thomas Mueller ha scritto: 

>> Ciao a tutti,
>

>> Ho installato il browser web Dillo alcune volte e non è nemmeno mai
stato avviato. Ho corretto la variabile del percorso in DILLO.BAT ma
senza successo.
> Qualcuno pu
> 
>> 
> span> La mia esperienza con Dillo
in NetBSD è che a volte funziona e solo sui si
> omplessi. Dimentica
l'online banking! Credo che la versione DOS sarebbe simile nella
funzionalità. Po
> 
>> ign: inherit;"> La versione di Dillo su NetBSD è
3.0.
> /span> Funziona bene con le versioni HTML dei manuali Cross Linux
>From Scratch, che visualizzo offline. I trucchi da eseguire per far
funzionare Dillo su DOS (gratuito) sarebbero usare un browser migliore,
ma in DOS, sei a corto di buoni browser. Non ci provo da molti anni
perché la mia Ethernet sembra non essere supportata da nessun driver di
pacchetti DOS. Tom 
> 
> I used Dillo and before Arachne- dos browsers -
but currently the only dos browser still developed is LINKS
(Links.twibright.com) both in textual and gui mode. It is light and
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser

[andrea936]

  

Il 06.12.2020 22:38 Dean Galloway ha scritto: 

> Hello all,
> 
>
I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even 
>
started. I corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success.
> 
>
Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be 
>
performed before I can get it going?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dean.
> 
> I used
Dillo and before Arachne- dos browsers - but currently the only dos
browser still developed is LINKS (Links.twibright.com) both in textual
and gui mode. It is light and efficient even on old pc
> andrea
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web browser

[Jamie Le Tual]

I just realized the importance of setting up a cross compiler on my linux
machine while I was unzipping the source for openssl and remembered of the
limit of 8.3 filenames :/

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:08, Jamie Le Tual  wrote:

> what was the error when it failed to compile?
>
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:07, Louis Santillan  wrote:
>
>> That's one thing that has troubled me about Links2.  I've been able to
>> compile it for Mac and Linux but not DOS.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:35 PM Jamie Le Tual 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I would be curious to know which tool chain they used to compile it
>> >
>> > On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:26, Jose Senna  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  The only Web browsers for DOS with TLS support I
>> >> know of are recent versions of Links.
>> >>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web browser

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what was the error when it failed to compile?

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:07, Louis Santillan  wrote:

> That's one thing that has troubled me about Links2.  I've been able to
> compile it for Mac and Linux but not DOS.
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:35 PM Jamie Le Tual 
> wrote:
> >
> > I would be curious to know which tool chain they used to compile it
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:26, Jose Senna  wrote:
> >>
> >>  The only Web browsers for DOS with TLS support I
> >> know of are recent versions of Links.
> >>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web browser

[Louis Santillan]

That's one thing that has troubled me about Links2.  I've been able to
compile it for Mac and Linux but not DOS.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:35 PM Jamie Le Tual  wrote:
>
> I would be curious to know which tool chain they used to compile it
>
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:26, Jose Senna  wrote:
>>
>>  The only Web browsers for DOS with TLS support I
>> know of are recent versions of Links.
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web browser

[Jamie Le Tual]

I would be curious to know which tool chain they used to compile it

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:26, Jose Senna  wrote:

>  The only Web browsers for DOS with TLS support I
> know of are recent versions of Links.
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[Freedos-user] Dillo Web browser

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 The only Web browsers for DOS with TLS support I
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser

[Thomas Mueller]

> Hello all,

> I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even started.�  
> I
> corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success.

> Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be
> performed before I can get it going?

> Thanks,

> Dean.

My experience with Dillo in NetBSD is that it works sometimes and only on the 
less-complex web sites.  Forget online banking!

I believe the DOS version would be similar in functionality.  I may have tried 
it but don't really remember.

Dillo version on NetBSD is 3.0.5nb2 .

It works well on HTML versions of Cross Linux From Scratch manuals, which I 
view offline.

Tricks to perform to get Dillo going on (Free)DOS would be to use a better 
browser, but in DOS, you're strapped for good browsers.

I haven't tried in many years because my Ethernet seems to be not supported by 
any DOS packet driver.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser

[Johnpaul Humphrey]

I have had success with dillo before in a VM. Could you give us more
details? Does it give any information? Does it silently execute? Does
it freeze? It sounds like it is frozen.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:39 PM Dean Galloway  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even
> started.  I corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success.
>
> Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be
> performed before I can get it going?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dean.
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[Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser

[Dean Galloway]

Hello all,

I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even 
started.  I corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success.


Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be 
performed before I can get it going?


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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS - beta2

[ellsnjel]

 NO. Arachne supports 8086, Dillo never will.
Will Arachne actually run an an 8086? I ran it on a 80486 and even then 
it was slow...

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 does this DOS port of DILLO make Arachne obsolete?

NO. Arachne supports 8086, Dillo never will.

Arachne has bugs and Dillo has bugs, but they have DIFFERENT
code origins and different WATT code, so they have DIFFERENT
bugs ... so if one doesn't work just try the other one (and some more).

 Also would using UPX (best mode) on the executable have any advantage?

This dilemma is impossible to resolve finally.

 upx --8086 --lzma --ultra-brute dillo.exe

No point to use --8086 - should get rejected for COFF anyway ;-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS - beta2

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Hi Bernd,

whether Arachne is obsolete I leave to the users to decide. My objective is 
to provide a better browser than Arachne. However, Dillo will never be able 
to really compete with Firefox or Chrome.

I compressed dillo.exe as you described and gained a file that is 300k 
smaller. I did not test if that takes longer to unpack again.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

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On Nov 23, 2011, at 11:58 PM, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wonder if a workaround would be to detect Dillo on the web site
 
 Please don't do it like that ... it's just recycling this B.S. technology:
 
 if (detectIE5)
  make IE5 happy
 else
  if (detectIE5.5)
make IE5.5 happy
  else
if (detectIE6)
  make IE6 happy
else
  if (detectOpera)
make Opera happy
  else
ASS'ume IE7 and make IE7 happy
  endif
endif
  endif
 endif
 
 So my proposal is: simplification YES, detect Dillo
 (or Arachne or DOSLynx or whatwever) NO.
 

Actually, we don't make any provisions for IE on the www.freedos.org site. We 
do write HTML and CSS that works everywhere. The only time we detect the 
browser is for mobile devices, since they have a very small screen and lots 
less memory. (Actually, once I did detect IE6, but only to display a banner to 
ask people to get off that old browser.)

For a while now, I've wanted to update the web site to more gracefully handle 
images for mobile devices, in a way that renders full size images for regular 
browsers. That way, everyone wins. I do this on another site that I currently 
help manage, and it works great.

At the same time, I want to move away from background image replacement for the 
H1 FreeDOS title. Originally, this seemed a great idea, but (a) it looks odd 
in print, and (b) clearly isn't supported by Dillo. We no longer use a stock 
image anyway, it's a special mod for the banner logo image. So I can do much 
better with an image named banner_logo.png or some such.

And if I'm going to edit pages, I might as well (finally) remove a few divs I 
no longer use, that are just marked display:none. Dillo doesn't support 
display:none, so you're seeing the preamble text.

Maybe I won't detect Dillo as a mobile browser, that might make things look 
weird, but I'll still do the 3 things mentioned above. And it will still make 
things better for Dillo on www.freedos.org.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[dos386]

 I wonder if a workaround would be to detect Dillo on the web site

Please don't do it like that ... it's just recycling this B.S. technology:

if (detectIE5)
  make IE5 happy
else
  if (detectIE5.5)
make IE5.5 happy
  else
if (detectIE6)
  make IE6 happy
else
  if (detectOpera)
make Opera happy
  else
ASS'ume IE7 and make IE7 happy
  endif
endif
  endif
endif

So my proposal is: simplification YES, detect Dillo
(or Arachne or DOSLynx or whatwever) NO.

 SSL, FTP and uploads of files are not supported yet.

Upload works mostly in Win32 Dillo.

 Here is a screenshot of freedos.org using dillo for Win32 and  View mobile 
 site
 http://tinypic.com/r/2q18ig0/5

??? I can't see it :-(

Anyway, the freedos.org layout is an issue,
but for me the wishlist sorted by importance would be:

0. Hangers
1. Uploads
2. HTTPS / SSL
3. Layout

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:58 PM, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wonder if a workaround would be to detect Dillo on the web site

 Please don't do it like that ... it's just recycling this B.S. technology:

 if (detectIE5)
  make IE5 happy
 else
 ...
 endif

Most sites dropped IE6 already. Besides, IE9 is already out with IE10
(Win7 only) on the way. And even MS is jumping on the (complex,
unfinished) HTML5 bandwagon (why??). So none of that helps our cause.
(Really, all this bloat for hypertext??)

 Anyway, the freedos.org layout is an issue,
 but for me the wishlist sorted by importance would be:

 0. Hangers
 1. Uploads
 2. HTTPS / SSL
 3. Layout

More likely:

0. Give thanks to Georg for his efforts. (Hey, it's Thanksgiving!)   :-)
1. Misc. bugfixes (it's only beta1).
2. Mirror it to iBiblio (or sooner if Jim wants).

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[James Hall]

Thanks!

Looks like Dillo doesn't support background images in CSS, and/or the
display:none directive, so it's displaying the word FreeDOS in the
H1 instead of an image. I can fix that on the web site.



On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Marco Achury marcoach...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here is a screenshot of freedos.org using dillo for Win32 and  View mobile
 site

 http://tinypic.com/r/2q18ig0/5


 El 21/11/2011 09:02 a.m., jhall escribió:

 I guess I need to find some time to install Dillo and see what is not
 rendering properly on the FreeDOS site. My guess is Dillo does not implement
 all of the CSS that I am using there. Most likely, it is breaking on
 absolute placement (this would mean the tabs show up at the bottom, as
 would the left-hand links.)

 I wonder if a workaround would be to detect Dillo on the web site, and
 treat it like a mobile browser so it gets the simplified pages. If you click
 on View mobile site in the footer, does the page look okay?

 jh

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[Marco Achury]

I have not tested dillo for DOS; just the win32 port (on wich DOS port
is based)

Win32 port have problems with code pages on non-english texts.  See this
example:

http://tinypic.com/r/2exmpgi/5

Was this solved on DOS version

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El 21/11/2011 02:35 p.m., James Hall escribió:
 Thanks!

 Looks like Dillo doesn't support background images in CSS, and/or the
 display:none directive, so it's displaying the word FreeDOS in the
 H1 instead of an image. I can fix that on the web site.



 On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Marco Achury marcoach...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here is a screenshot of freedos.org using dillo for Win32 and  View mobile
 site

 http://tinypic.com/r/2q18ig0/5


 El 21/11/2011 09:02 a.m., jhall escribió:

 I guess I need to find some time to install Dillo and see what is not
 rendering properly on the FreeDOS site. My guess is Dillo does not implement
 all of the CSS that I am using there. Most likely, it is breaking on
 absolute placement (this would mean the tabs show up at the bottom, as
 would the left-hand links.)

 I wonder if a workaround would be to detect Dillo on the web site, and
 treat it like a mobile browser so it gets the simplified pages. If you click
 on View mobile site in the footer, does the page look okay?

 jh
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[nospam]

I am sorry but the FreeDOS pages are examples of pages Dillo will not render 
properly.

Provided you have a packet driver running on your PC, just look through the 
Dillo.bat file and after that you should be able to run DILLO.

Georg

@DOS386:
SSL, FTP and uploads of files are not supported yet.


- Original Message - 
From: jhall jh...@freedos.org
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS


 Thanks for posting a screenshot of Dillo visiting www.freedos.org. Just 
 curious, does the rest of the FreeDOS site render correctly on Dillo? I 
 use standard HTML  CSS, but does Dillo have support for the CSS 
 directives I'm using?

 I haven't had time to tinker with Dillo yet, but maybe you could post a 
 few screenshots of the banner and footer?



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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[dos386]

Thanks :-) It does something ... upload doesn't work (in Win32 version
it works with minor trouble) ... HTTPS doesn't work ... posting in
FASM forum works (without attachments only) ... FTP is strange ...
and there are hangers (temporary and permanent) ...

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[dos386]

 Here is a screenshot of Dillo for DOS running

Another one (shot in DOS but uploaded in Windaube):
http://board.flatassembler.net/files/d_948.png

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[jhall]

Thanks for posting a screenshot of Dillo visiting www.freedos.org. Just 
curious, does the rest of the FreeDOS site render correctly on Dillo? I use 
standard HTML  CSS, but does Dillo have support for the CSS directives I'm 
using?

I haven't had time to tinker with Dillo yet, but maybe you could post a few 
screenshots of the banner and footer? 



On Nov 19, 2011, at 8:36 PM, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here is a screenshot of Dillo for DOS running
 
 Another one (shot in DOS but uploaded in Windaube):
 http://board.flatassembler.net/files/d_948.png
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[dos386]

 Just curious, does the rest of the FreeDOS site render correctly on Dillo?

The stuff on the left side is far below (bad, not visible on the
shot), no further tests.

FASM forum (php-BB2) looks good (as long as no big images inside) but
produces warns after posting ... php-BB3 looks a bit messy.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[Karen Lewellen]

At the risk of seeming like a baby, may I have a direct link?
I did try to google, but the download instructions hinted at needing to 
build, so I felt I might not have found the most recent page.

Looking forward to learning if it will work with my screen reader!
Karen

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, nospam wrote:


Hi Jim,

as you can see on the download link it is the first beta version I released.
You can surf the web as you can see on the screenshot but there are a couple
of issues I am currently working on. These are mentioned in the User Guide.

Georg

- Original Message -
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To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS



I have spotty Internet service right now (traveling, again) so I may have
to wait until tomorrow to post this on the FreeDOS web site. Sounds
exciting!



On Nov 17, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
fav...@mpcnet.com.br wrote:


Hi Georg,


The Dillo web browser has been ported to DOS now.


This came as a complete surprise to me. Thanks very much! This is
great news for us DOS users.

Dillo worked immediately in my Pentium 166 under FreeDOS.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[nospam]

This is the direct link:

http://nanox-microwindows-nxlib-fltk-for-dos.googlecode.com/files/DilloDos-beta1-SFN.zip

Georg

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From: Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS


At the risk of seeming like a baby, may I have a direct link?
I did try to google, but the download instructions hinted at needing to
build, so I felt I might not have found the most recent page.
Looking forward to learning if it will work with my screen reader!
Karen

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, nospam wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 as you can see on the download link it is the first beta version I 
 released.
 You can surf the web as you can see on the screenshot but there are a 
 couple
 of issues I am currently working on. These are mentioned in the User 
 Guide.

 Georg

 - Original Message -
 From: jhall jh...@freedos.org
 To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS


 I have spotty Internet service right now (traveling, again) so I may have
 to wait until tomorrow to post this on the FreeDOS web site. Sounds
 exciting!



 On Nov 17, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
 fav...@mpcnet.com.br wrote:

 Hi Georg,

 The Dillo web browser has been ported to DOS now.

 This came as a complete surprise to me. Thanks very much! This is
 great news for us DOS users.

 Dillo worked immediately in my Pentium 166 under FreeDOS.

 Marcos



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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[Eric Auer]

Hi Karen,

 At the risk of seeming like a baby, may I have a direct link?

www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=10797page=0order=timecategory=0

mentions at least two builds:

http://nanox-microwindows-nxlib-fltk-for-dos.googlecode.com/files/DilloDos-beta1-SFN.zip

and

http://nanox-microwindows-nxlib-fltk-for-dos.googlecode.com/files/DilloDos-beta1.zip

The latter only works if DOSLFN is loaded. Also, the thread
in the forum mentions several times that people have to read
the documentation - there are a few settings related things
and a few limitations that are important to know about, for
example that you cannot yet download files with DOS Dillo.

No version of Dillo yet fully supports Javascript. Also, no
background images and plugins are supported. Linux / Windows
versions support HTTPS SSL, but I think that is not yet part
of the DOS version. All versions of Dillo can support images
in PNG, JPG and GIF (depending on libraries) and limited CSS
and (depending on libraries?) TTF (true type fonts).

Dillo is a lightweight and relatively portable browser and
Georg ported the FLTK graphics toolkit which Dillo uses a
while ago already which made him able to now port Dillo :-)

 Looking forward to learning if it will work with my screen reader!

To be honest, I somehow doubt that it would - while Dillo is
lightweight, it features more fancy graphics than Arachne...

To support your screenreader, it would probably have to use
plain text or send the text to some API of your screenreader
software, right? Of course the latter would be interesting,
maybe the API is easy and Georg would be able to help you?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[Karen Lewellen]

The only part of this I will answer is the last,
No none of that is true for the screen reader.


On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, Eric Auer wrote:


 Hi Karen,

 At the risk of seeming like a baby, may I have a direct link?

 www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=10797page=0order=timecategory=0

 mentions at least two builds:

 http://nanox-microwindows-nxlib-fltk-for-dos.googlecode.com/files/DilloDos-beta1-SFN.zip

 and

 http://nanox-microwindows-nxlib-fltk-for-dos.googlecode.com/files/DilloDos-beta1.zip

 The latter only works if DOSLFN is loaded. Also, the thread
 in the forum mentions several times that people have to read
 the documentation - there are a few settings related things
 and a few limitations that are important to know about, for
 example that you cannot yet download files with DOS Dillo.

 No version of Dillo yet fully supports Javascript. Also, no
 background images and plugins are supported. Linux / Windows
 versions support HTTPS SSL, but I think that is not yet part
 of the DOS version. All versions of Dillo can support images
 in PNG, JPG and GIF (depending on libraries) and limited CSS
 and (depending on libraries?) TTF (true type fonts).

 Dillo is a lightweight and relatively portable browser and
 Georg ported the FLTK graphics toolkit which Dillo uses a
 while ago already which made him able to now port Dillo :-)

 Looking forward to learning if it will work with my screen reader!

 To be honest, I somehow doubt that it would - while Dillo is
 lightweight, it features more fancy graphics than Arachne...

 To support your screenreader, it would probably have to use
 plain text or send the text to some API of your screenreader
 software, right? Of course the latter would be interesting,
 maybe the API is easy and Georg would be able to help you?

 Regards, Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[James Hall]

Thanks, I posted a news item on the front page. Looking through your
library source files, I was happy to see all Free licenses:

* FLTK: GNU LGPL with exceptions

* Freetype: dual-licensed with the Freetype license, or GNU GPL

* Microwin: dual-licensed with MPL, or GNU GPL v2

* nxlib: dual-licensed with MPL, or GNU GPL v2


I didn't look into the fonts yet, but I assume you are using free
replacements there as well.


Thanks! I can't wait to give this a try!

-jh




On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:28 AM, nospam nos...@georgpotthast.de wrote:
 Hi Jim,

 as you can see on the download link it is the first beta version I released.
 You can surf the web as you can see on the screenshot but there are a couple
 of issues I am currently working on. These are mentioned in the User Guide.

 Georg

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 To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS


I have spotty Internet service right now (traveling, again) so I may have
to wait until tomorrow to post this on the FreeDOS web site. Sounds
exciting!



 On Nov 17, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
 fav...@mpcnet.com.br wrote:

 Hi Georg,

 The Dillo web browser has been ported to DOS now.

 This came as a complete surprise to me. Thanks very much! This is
 great news for us DOS users.

 Dillo worked immediately in my Pentium 166 under FreeDOS.

 Marcos



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[Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[nospam]

The Dillo web browser has been ported to DOS now. You can download the first
beta here:

http://code.google.com/p/nanox-microwindows-nxlib-fltk-for-dos/downloads/list

I recently ported the FLTK toolkit to DOS. Based on that I could port the
Dillo GUI to DOS. Benjamin Johnson, who ported Dillo to Windows joined me
and so this beta is available now based on Dillo for Windows.

There is a three-page User Guide in the ZIP archive which will answer many
questions that may arise.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

[jhall]

I have spotty Internet service right now (traveling, again) so I may have to 
wait until tomorrow to post this on the FreeDOS web site. Sounds exciting!



On Nov 17, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros 
fav...@mpcnet.com.br wrote:

 Hi Georg,
 
 The Dillo web browser has been ported to DOS now.
 
 This came as a complete surprise to me. Thanks very much! This is
 great news for us DOS users.
 
 Dillo worked immediately in my Pentium 166 under FreeDOS.
 
 Marcos
 
 
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS

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Hi Jim,

as you can see on the download link it is the first beta version I released. 
You can surf the web as you can see on the screenshot but there are a couple 
of issues I am currently working on. These are mentioned in the User Guide.

Georg

- Original Message - 
From: jhall jh...@freedos.org
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo web browser for DOS


I have spotty Internet service right now (traveling, again) so I may have 
to wait until tomorrow to post this on the FreeDOS web site. Sounds 
exciting!



 On Nov 17, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros 
 fav...@mpcnet.com.br wrote:

 Hi Georg,

 The Dillo web browser has been ported to DOS now.

 This came as a complete surprise to me. Thanks very much! This is
 great news for us DOS users.

 Dillo worked immediately in my Pentium 166 under FreeDOS.

 Marcos



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 Campinas, Brazil



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