Re: [Freedos-user] Install fail
Eric Auer wrote:
Then it tried to download further updates but failed to
communicate with your ADSL router or similar device.
Could it have reasonably been expected to succeed?
If so, how to make it work.
How can I determine what did not get installed because of this?
I think the whole install process did not finalize that way...
It does boot.
I cannot find a list of features and addon packages. Are some on the CD
and some downloaded?
Is there a file manager on the CD? I am using NC.
Below is another machine that has had problems with DOS. It is
out-of-the-box except I added LH NC. Does it look normal?
Modules using memory below 1 MB:
Name Total Conventional Upper Memory
SYSTEM 25,568 (25K) 11,008 (11K) 14,560 (14K)
HIMEM2,704(3K) 2,704(3K) 0(0K)
EMM386 3,632(4K) 3,632(4K) 0(0K)
LBACACHE20,464 (20K)336(0K) 20,128 (20K)
COMMAND 4,064(4K) 3,024(3K) 1,040(1K)
RTSPKT 26,160 (26K) 26,160 (26K) 0(0K)
COMMAND 3,552(3K) 3,024(3K)528(1K)
XCDROM 2,320(2K) 0(0K) 2,320(2K)
CDRCACHE13,072 (13K) 0(0K) 13,072 (13K)
MORESYS544(1K) 0(0K)544(1K)
FDAPM 928(1K) 0(0K)928(1K)
SHSUCDX 8,416(8K) 0(0K) 8,416(8K)
NC 13,520 (13K) 0(0K) 13,520 (13K)
MOUSE3,328(3K) 0(0K) 3,328(3K)
Free 652,800 (638K)604,160 (590K) 48,640 (48K)
Memory TypeTotal Used Free
Conventional 639K49K 590K
Upper 124K76K48K
Reserved 261K 261K 0K
Extended (XMS) 1,014,528K31,941K 982,587K
Total memory 1,015,552K32,327K 983,225K
Total under 1 MB 763K 125K 638K
Largest executable program size 590K (603,808 bytes)
Largest free upper memory block43K ( 43,888 bytes)
FreeDOS is resident in the high memory area.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Install fail
Hi, Then it tried to download further updates but failed to communicate with your ADSL router or similar device. Could it have reasonably been expected to succeed? Depends on many factors. You better try that with for example Arachne after installing a basic DOS :-). The realtek driver is usually okay, but BIG operating systems do the router / modem init once, while DOS has to do it again each time when you start a network client (browser for example), and each time it can fail... Which can hang if during the install. It does boot. Nice :-). I cannot find a list of features and addon packages. Are some on the CD and some downloaded? See, as usual, http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdInstall http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdDependencies ...which tells which packages require internet... but see also... For a full list, see: http://www.freedos.org/freedos/software/ Base is what is in the base distro, all others should be in the full distro. Is there a file manager on the CD? I am using NC. http://www.freedos.org/cgi-bin/freedos-lsm.cgi?q=fa=util/ndn.lsm Necromancer Dos Navigator seems to be our standard NC clone. Below is another machine that has had problems with DOS. It is out-of-the-box except I added LH NC. Does it look normal? Maybe the usual: UMB problems. Start without emm386. No UMB (lh / loadhigh / devicehigh then) but better stability :-). Name Total Conventional Upper Memory SYSTEM 25,568 (25k) 11,008 (11k) 14,560 (14k) sounds like dosdata=umb dos=high,umb :-) HIMEM2,704(3k) 2,704(3k) 0(0k) EMM386 3,632(4k) 3,632(4k) 0(0k) LBACACHE20,464 (20k)336(0k) 20,128 (20k) that is quite a big cache, loaded high but with the scsi safe option that should make loading the cache high safe... you can still try loading lbacache without lh, just in case. COMMAND 4,064(4k) 3,024(3k) 1,040(1k) probably a big environment size ;-) RTSPKT 26,160 (26k) 26,160 (26k) 0(0k) as you see, the network packet driver uses a lot of ram. realtek one. you could comment out the line that loads that one, or add a ? in front of it - then you are asked each time you boot if you want to load the driver. when you need no network, you can skip it. COMMAND 3,552(3k) 3,024(3k)528(1k) a second command.com, probably loaded by nc? XCDROM 2,320(2k) 0(0k) 2,320(2k) cdrom: not sure if this works well when loaded high, try loading low CDRCACHE13,072 (13k) 0(0k) 13,072 (13k) a pretty big cdrom cache... should work okay in high area, no prob. MORESYS544(1k) 0(0k)544(1k) lets you do things like tree more$ FDAPM 928(1k) 0(0k)928(1k) a driver to save energy while dos is idle :-) SHSUCDX 8,416(8k) 0(0k) 8,416(8k) cdrom: not sure if this works well when loaded high, try loading low NC 13,520 (13k) 0(0k) 13,520 (13k) MOUSE3,328(3k) 0(0k) 3,328(3k) Free 652,800 (638k)604,160 (590k) 48,640 (48k) Nice config, 615k free if you boot without networking :-) Or 10-15k less if you keep the cdrom stuff low. Without emm386, you would have roughly 550k free only. Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Install fail
I just downloaded and burned FDFULLCD.ISO. I installed it on a rather old machine: 1G P4. I have trouble getting any DOS to boot on some late model machines. Bootable CD install stops at Configuring through DHCP. Someone else complained about this last November. I don't find a response. How can I determine what did not get installed because of this? Is there a way to do an incremental install, that is, jump to a particular install page? Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Install fail
I just downloaded and burned FDFULLCD.ISO. I installed it on a rather old machine: 1G P4. I have trouble getting any DOS to boot on some late model machines. Bootable CD install stops at Configuring through DHCP. Someone else complained about this last November. I don't find a response. How can I determine what did not get installed because of this? Is there a way to do an incremental install, that is, jump to a particular install page? The HDD does boot in that machine. Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install fail
Hi Ray, I just downloaded and burned FDFULLCD.ISO... Bootable CD install stops at Configuring through DHCP. Then it tried to download further updates but failed to communicate with your ADSL router or similar device. How can I determine what did not get installed because of this? I think the whole install process did not finalize that way... Is there a way to do an incremental install Yes. Please do a BASE install to make sure that your DOS is installed and bootable. You can always start the install again later to add more packages. You can also use fdpkg to install packages manually. Or, even easier, you can just do cdd c:\fdos and then unzip some_file_on_cdrom.zip to install the package some_file :-). FDPKG adds some extra things like automatic dependency checking and setup of packages, but at least ninety percent of the packages work perfectly after a simple UNZIP instead of FDPKG already. http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdInstall points you to http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdDependencies which contains a list of packages which will make the installer try to contact the internet during install. If you unselect those packages in the list of installable packages dialogue, your install should proceed without any DHCP troubles. As said, you can still add the network related packages later :-). Eric PS: I recommend that FreeDOS 1.1 will have a preselection ALMOST FULL, which is like FULL but excludes packages that need internet or lots of disk space during install. So you get a quick install in only 100 MB ;-). Adding more packages can happen later based on manual choice. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
