Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?
I'm interested in this approach, but I'm finding it hard to find documentation and software. From what I've heard so far, it seems using the on-board modem will be more of a hassle than just using serial or parallel to connect to something else with ethernet. I'd like to stick with free/libre software wherever possible, and I'm not opposed to writing my own software to accomplish this either; I just need documentation. All the documentation I can find seems to make too many assumptions about my knowledge (i.e. "Just use " as if I have it and know how to use it already). If the users on this list can work together and get me the pieces I need to make a working setup for this, I'd be more than happy to compile it all into a comprehensive how-to document for future users. Happy Hacking, David E. McMackins II Supporting Member, Electronic Frontier Foundation (#2296972) Associate Member, Free Software Foundation (#12889) www.mcmackins.org www.delwink.com www.eff.org www.gnu.org www.fsf.org On 07/10/2018 03:11 PM, geneb wrote: >> On Jul 10, 2018, 1:23 PM, David McMackins wrote: >> >>> Even if I did, that doesn't answer my question. Even if I get connected >>> to dial-up, will TCP/IP applications still work, or will they complain >>> about drivers since they are trying to access a NIC? >>> > > David, you might be well served by looking into SLIP & PPP options for > DOS. Something like Trumpet WinSock, but for DOS. > > You could configure a Raspberry Pi as a PPP or SLIP host and connect to > it via a null modem cable. > > g. > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?
Or DOSPPP. On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:32 PM Louis Santillan wrote: > You could also use something like EPPPD and Arachne includes a dialer > packet driver as well (might even be EPPPD). > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:13 PM geneb wrote: > >> > On Jul 10, 2018, 1:23 PM, David McMackins wrote: >> > >> >> Even if I did, that doesn't answer my question. Even if I get connected >> >> to dial-up, will TCP/IP applications still work, or will they complain >> >> about drivers since they are trying to access a NIC? >> >> >> >> David, you might be well served by looking into SLIP & PPP options for >> DOS. Something like Trumpet WinSock, but for DOS. >> >> You could configure a Raspberry Pi as a PPP or SLIP host and connect to >> it >> via a null modem cable. >> >> g. >> >> -- >> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. >> Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. >> >> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment >> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. >> http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_! >> >> >> -- >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?
You could also use something like EPPPD and Arachne includes a dialer packet driver as well (might even be EPPPD). On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:13 PM geneb wrote: > > On Jul 10, 2018, 1:23 PM, David McMackins wrote: > > > >> Even if I did, that doesn't answer my question. Even if I get connected > >> to dial-up, will TCP/IP applications still work, or will they complain > >> about drivers since they are trying to access a NIC? > >> > > David, you might be well served by looking into SLIP & PPP options for > DOS. Something like Trumpet WinSock, but for DOS. > > You could configure a Raspberry Pi as a PPP or SLIP host and connect to it > via a null modem cable. > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. > Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_! > > > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?
On Jul 10, 2018, 1:23 PM, David McMackins wrote: Even if I did, that doesn't answer my question. Even if I get connected to dial-up, will TCP/IP applications still work, or will they complain about drivers since they are trying to access a NIC? David, you might be well served by looking into SLIP & PPP options for DOS. Something like Trumpet WinSock, but for DOS. You could configure a Raspberry Pi as a PPP or SLIP host and connect to it via a null modem cable. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_! -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?
I understand this. I guess my question was really: where can I get a packet driver that will communicate over my phone line instead of a typical NIC? Happy Hacking, David E. McMackins II Supporting Member, Electronic Frontier Foundation (#2296972) Associate Member, Free Software Foundation (#12889) www.mcmackins.org www.delwink.com www.eff.org www.gnu.org www.fsf.org On 2018-07-10 14:20, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user wrote: Afaik, TCP/IP interfaces to a packet driver, which then works directly with the NIC. It shouldn't matter over which medium you're ultimately communicating, as long as it presents the packet interface which TCP/IP expects. Sent from ProtonMail mobile Original Message On Jul 10, 2018, 1:23 PM, David McMackins < cont...@mcmackins.org> wrote: Even if I did, that doesn't answer my question. Even if I get connected to dial-up, will TCP/IP applications still work, or will they complain about drivers since they are trying to access a NIC? Happy Hacking, David E. McMackins II Supporting Member, Electronic Frontier Foundation (#2296972) Associate Member, Free Software Foundation (#12889) www.mcmackins.org [1]">www.mcmackins.org [1] www.delwink.com [2]">www.delwink.com [2] www.eff.org [3]">www.eff.org [3] www.gnu.org [4]">www.gnu.org [4] www.fsf.org [5]">www.fsf.org [5] On 2018-07-10 12:17, Louis Santillan wrote: Have you tried setting up a Linux box as a dial-up server? [0] [0] https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_dialin_server [6]">https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_dialin_server [7] [8] On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 9:10 PM David McMackins wrote: I have a 1998 Sony Vaio running FreeDOS. This model did not include an ethernet controller (or wlan), but it does have an old modem in it. I've been going through the networking guide referred to by Rugxulo, and I got down to running NICSCAN.EXE only to realize *oops!* this computer doesn't even have an ethernet card. Supposing I could find a working phone line and dial-up service to connect the modem to, is there hope of using TCP/IP applications like wget over it using the software available to me? Happy Hacking, David E. McMackins II Supporting Member, Electronic Frontier Foundation (#2296972) Associate Member, Free Software Foundation (#12889) www.mcmackins.org [1]">www.mcmackins.org [1] [1] www.delwink.com [2]">www.delwink.com [2] [2] www.eff.org [3]">www.eff.org [3] [3] www.gnu.org [4]">www.gnu.org [4] [4] www.fsf.org [5]">www.fsf.org [5] [5] -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot [8]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [9]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [10]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [9]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [9]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [9]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [10]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [9] [6] ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [11]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [12]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [13]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [12]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [12]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [12]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [13]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [12] [7] Links: -- [1] http://www.mcmackins.org [1]">www.mcmackins.org [1] [2] http://www.delwink.com [2]">www.delwink.com [2] [3] http://www.eff.org [3]">www.eff.org [3] [4] http://www.gnu.org [4]">www.gnu.org [4] [5] http://www.fsf.org [5]">www.fsf.org [5] [6] http://sdm.link/slashdot [8]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [9]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [10]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [9]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [9]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [9]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [10]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [9] [7] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [11]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [12]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [13]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [12]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [12]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [12]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [13]">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [12] [8] https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_dialin_server [6]">https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_dialin_server [7] -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot [8]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [9]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [10]">http://sdm.link/slashdot [9]">http://sdm.link/slas
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 14:58:01 -0400, dmccunney wrote: > Any chance of posting that somewhere that doesn't require a gopher > client to access it? You mean like http or whatever? Bleh. Where would be the fun then? Gopher-disabled people are free to use one of the few web proxies out there. FreeDOS also comes with a gopher client out of the box (gopherus). Anyway, here's a direct (and super-long) link through Floodgap's proxy: https://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw.lite?gopher://gopher.viste.fr:70/1/ myinfobase/%3fdisp2017-03-05+plip+bridge Mateusz -- FreeDOS is present on the USENET, too! alt.os.free-dos -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?
Afaik, TCP/IP interfaces to a packet driver, which then works directly with the NIC. It shouldn't matter over which medium you're ultimately communicating, as long as it presents the packet interface which TCP/IP expects. Sent from ProtonMail mobile Original Message On Jul 10, 2018, 1:23 PM, David McMackins wrote: > Even if I did, that doesn't answer my question. Even if I get connected > to dial-up, will TCP/IP applications still work, or will they complain > about drivers since they are trying to access a NIC? > > Happy Hacking, > > David E. McMackins II > Supporting Member, Electronic Frontier Foundation (#2296972) > Associate Member, Free Software Foundation (#12889) > > [www.mcmackins.org](www.mcmackins.org [www.delwink.com]( href=)">www.delwink.com > [www.eff.org](www.eff.org [www.gnu.org](www.gnu.org > [www.fsf.org](www.fsf.org > > On 2018-07-10 12:17, Louis Santillan wrote: >> Have you tried setting up a Linux box as a dial-up server? [0] >> >> [0] [https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_dialin_server](> href=)">https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_dialin_server [8] >> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 9:10 PM David McMackins >> wrote: >> >>> I have a 1998 Sony Vaio running FreeDOS. This model did not include >>> an >>> ethernet controller (or wlan), but it does have an old modem in it. >>> I've >>> been going through the networking guide referred to by Rugxulo, and >>> I >>> got down to running NICSCAN.EXE only to realize *oops!* this >>> computer >>> doesn't even have an ethernet card. >>> >>> Supposing I could find a working phone line and dial-up service to >>> connect the modem to, is there hope of using TCP/IP applications >>> like >>> wget over it using the software available to me? >>> >>> Happy Hacking, >>> >>> David E. McMackins II >>> Supporting Member, Electronic Frontier Foundation (#2296972) >>> Associate Member, Free Software Foundation (#12889) >>> >>> [www.mcmackins.org](www.mcmackins.org [1] [www.delwink.com](>> href=)">www.delwink.com [2] >>> [www.eff.org](www.eff.org [3] [www.gnu.org](>> href=)">www.gnu.org [4] [www.fsf.org](www.fsf.org [5] >>> >>> >> -- >>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! [http://sdm.link/slashdot](>> href=)">http://sdm.link/slashdot";>[http://sdm.link/slashdot](>> href=)">http://sdm.link/slashdot";>http://sdm.link/slashdot";>http://sdm.link/slashdot";>[http://sdm.link/slashdot](>> href=)">http://sdm.link/slashdot [6] >>> ___ >>> Freedos-user mailing list >>> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >>> [https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user](>> href=)">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user";>[https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user](>> >>> href=)">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user";>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user";>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user";>[https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user](>> href=)">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [7] >> >> >> Links: >> -- >> [1] http://[www.mcmackins.org](www.mcmackins.org >> [2] http://[www.delwink.com](www.delwink.com >> [3] http://[www.eff.org](www.eff.org >> [4] http://[www.gnu.org](www.gnu.org >> [5] http://[www.fsf.org](www.fsf.org >> [6] [http://sdm.link/slashdot](> href=)">http://sdm.link/slashdot";>[http://sdm.link/slashdot](> href=)">http://sdm.link/slashdot";>http://sdm.link/slashdot";>http://sdm.link/slashdot";>[http://sdm.link/slashdot](> href=)">http://sdm.link/slashdot >> [7] [https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user](> href=)">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user";>[https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user](> >> href=)">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user";>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user";>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user";>[https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user](> href=)">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> [8] [https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_dialin_server](> href=)">https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_dialin_server >> >> -- >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! [http://sdm.link/slashdot](> href=)">http://sdm.link/slashdot";>[http://sdm.link/slashdot](> href=)">http://sdm.link/slashdot";>http://sdm.link/slashdot";>http://sdm.link/slashdot";>[http://sdm.link/slashdot](> href=)">http://sdm.link/slashdot >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> [https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user](> href=)">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lis
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 2:31 PM Mateusz Viste wrote: > > Does it have a parallel port? If so, then you could run PLIP. I wrote a > gopher article about connecting a no-NIC PC to the LAN through its > parallel port using PLIP: > > gopher://gopher.viste.fr/1/myinfobase/?disp2017-03-05 plip bridge Any chance of posting that somewhere that doesn't require a gopher client to access it? I have gopher access on Firefox Quantum via Overbyte WX (https://gopher.floodgap.com/overbite/) but it doesn't like the link: Malformed input detected (non-alphanumerical!): 2017-03-05%20plip%20bridge Most folks likely no longer have anything that speaks the gopher protocol. > Mateusz __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?
On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 21:08:35 -0500, David McMackins wrote: > I have a 1998 Sony Vaio running FreeDOS. This model did not include an > ethernet controller (or wlan), but it does have an old modem in it. I've > been going through the networking guide referred to by Rugxulo, and I > got down to running NICSCAN.EXE only to realize *oops!* this computer > doesn't even have an ethernet card. Does it have a parallel port? If so, then you could run PLIP. I wrote a gopher article about connecting a no-NIC PC to the LAN through its parallel port using PLIP: gopher://gopher.viste.fr/1/myinfobase/?disp2017-03-05 plip bridge Mateusz -- FreeDOS is present on the USENET, too! alt.os.free-dos -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:24 PM David McMackins wrote: > > Even if I did, that doesn't answer my question. Even if I get connected > to dial-up, will TCP/IP applications still work, or will they complain > about drivers since they are trying to access a NIC? I don't see why not. TCP-IP is a protocol stack. It sees things in terms of packets, and tosses them around. What the TCP-IP applications communicate through may not *be* a NIC. Take a look at the OSI network model. (https://www.lifewire.com/layers-of-the-osi-model-illustrated-818017) The precise medium over which the packets travel is defined on the physical and data link layers. Protocols like http and ftp happen *above* that on the network and transport layers. Here, Internet access from my desktop happens over a CAT5 cable plugged into my router, but my SO's laptop and various Wifi devices communicate over Wifi. The router doesn't care - it sees TCP-IP packets. Incoming arrive over a cable connection. Outgoing arrive via cable or Wifi. As long as the router sees properly formed packets, it can route them. How it gets the packets is irrelevant. Separating the exact physical method by which signals are sent and received from the way they are routed over the net is the point of OSI. Way back when, before I got broadband, I had a 56K dial-up modem connection to an ISP's servers. I could browse the web and do FTP, though an order of magnitude or two slower than what I currently have. Early web developers were advised that the user likely had a 14.4kbps connection, and to send only as much data as was absolutely necessary, so the user didn't grow old and grey waiting. DSL lines still use twisted pair copper, though the DSL model expects to plug into a NIC card. Twisted pair copper, coaxial cable, fiber, Wifi - no matter A packet is a packet is a packet. The bigger challenge here would be coming up with a standard POTS line to *do* dial-up. I went to VIOP ten years ago and dropped the POTS line. I'm in NYC, and Verizon no longer installs copper. Existing copper that works is maintained. Copper that was damaged by Hurricane Sandy is *not* being replaced. If you had that, your options are cellular or fiber. I have a USR 56K modem in a parts drawer. I've been tempted to plug it into a port on the router through which I attach a phone, save that the current desktop doesn't have the port a modem plugs into, and nothing I access does dial-up. > David E. McMackins II __ Dennis -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?
Even if I did, that doesn't answer my question. Even if I get connected to dial-up, will TCP/IP applications still work, or will they complain about drivers since they are trying to access a NIC? Happy Hacking, David E. McMackins II Supporting Member, Electronic Frontier Foundation (#2296972) Associate Member, Free Software Foundation (#12889) www.mcmackins.org www.delwink.com www.eff.org www.gnu.org www.fsf.org On 2018-07-10 12:17, Louis Santillan wrote: Have you tried setting up a Linux box as a dial-up server? [0] [0] https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_dialin_server [8] On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 9:10 PM David McMackins wrote: I have a 1998 Sony Vaio running FreeDOS. This model did not include an ethernet controller (or wlan), but it does have an old modem in it. I've been going through the networking guide referred to by Rugxulo, and I got down to running NICSCAN.EXE only to realize *oops!* this computer doesn't even have an ethernet card. Supposing I could find a working phone line and dial-up service to connect the modem to, is there hope of using TCP/IP applications like wget over it using the software available to me? Happy Hacking, David E. McMackins II Supporting Member, Electronic Frontier Foundation (#2296972) Associate Member, Free Software Foundation (#12889) www.mcmackins.org [1] www.delwink.com [2] www.eff.org [3] www.gnu.org [4] www.fsf.org [5] -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot [6] ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [7] Links: -- [1] http://www.mcmackins.org [2] http://www.delwink.com [3] http://www.eff.org [4] http://www.gnu.org [5] http://www.fsf.org [6] http://sdm.link/slashdot [7] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user [8] https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_dialin_server -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?
Have you tried setting up a Linux box as a dial-up server? [0] [0] https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_dialin_server On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 9:10 PM David McMackins wrote: > I have a 1998 Sony Vaio running FreeDOS. This model did not include an > ethernet controller (or wlan), but it does have an old modem in it. I've > been going through the networking guide referred to by Rugxulo, and I > got down to running NICSCAN.EXE only to realize *oops!* this computer > doesn't even have an ethernet card. > > Supposing I could find a working phone line and dial-up service to > connect the modem to, is there hope of using TCP/IP applications like > wget over it using the software available to me? > > Happy Hacking, > > David E. McMackins II > Supporting Member, Electronic Frontier Foundation (#2296972) > Associate Member, Free Software Foundation (#12889) > > www.mcmackins.org www.delwink.com > www.eff.org www.gnu.org www.fsf.org > > > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?
I have a 1998 Sony Vaio running FreeDOS. This model did not include an ethernet controller (or wlan), but it does have an old modem in it. I've been going through the networking guide referred to by Rugxulo, and I got down to running NICSCAN.EXE only to realize *oops!* this computer doesn't even have an ethernet card. Supposing I could find a working phone line and dial-up service to connect the modem to, is there hope of using TCP/IP applications like wget over it using the software available to me? Happy Hacking, David E. McMackins II Supporting Member, Electronic Frontier Foundation (#2296972) Associate Member, Free Software Foundation (#12889) www.mcmackins.org www.delwink.com www.eff.org www.gnu.org www.fsf.org -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
