Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[John Hupp]

Thanks for the link.  I just added my observations to that report.

On 3/21/2016 7:46 AM, dos386 wrote:
>> mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost invisible
> http://sf.net/p/freedos/bugs/2


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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[dos386]

> mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost invisible

http://sf.net/p/freedos/bugs/2

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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[John Hupp]

Interesting.  I won't be able to test this here until next week, but 
thanks for the promising lead!

On 3/16/2016 4:24 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
> I may have found a solution for your EDIT / Mouse issue. On one of my 
> PC's (an old Compaq) I use this driver:
> http://h20566.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/detail?sp4ts.oid=92231=PSG_I8512_18797=139
>
> SP2259,EXE Logitech Mouse
> which has a DOS enhancement for mouse sensitivity, speed etc.
> One of the options is a blink option - I tried it today and when I set 
> it to blink my mouse cursor actually stabilized when using FreeDOS Edit.
> You might give it a try and see how it does on your machine.
>


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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Don Flowers]

I may have found a solution for your EDIT / Mouse issue. On one of my PC's
(an old Compaq) I use this driver:
http://h20566.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/detail?sp4ts.oid=92231=PSG_I8512_18797=139

SP2259,EXE Logitech Mouse
which has a DOS enhancement for mouse sensitivity, speed etc.
One of the options is a blink option - I tried it today and when I set it
to blink my mouse cursor actually stabilized when using FreeDOS Edit.
You might give it a try and see how it does on your machine.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Dale E Sterner  wrote:

> I buy a lot of cheap used. Get rid of the old garbage. Besides
> they come setup for a camera not a puter. The mbr contains a startup
> program
> for a camera. Besides a lot of flash chips are fakes.
> When you format them the fakes stand out. An 8 gig chip
> might reformat as a 2 gig because it really is a 2 gig chip
> with the mbr doctored.
> Thanks for the link.
>
> cheers
> DS
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:02:41 -0500 dmccunney 
> writes:
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Dale E Sterner
> >  wrote:
> > > My old puter doesn't read html 5. I have to use Android tablet.
> > > It downloads apps OK but for other stuff it seems to balk.
> > > Still learning how to get this Android to work well.
> >
> > Try
> > http://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/sedit110.zip
> > as an alternate source for SETEDIT.
> >
> > > You remember I said that micro SD chips format slowly.
> > > I take it back; I had a bad chip. If you put them in a cr-7100
> > adapter.
> > > They're almost as fast as a CF chip.
> >
> > They come formatted as FAT32 out of the box.  Why would you need to
> > format one?
> >
> > > cheers
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Dale E Sterner]

I buy a lot of cheap used. Get rid of the old garbage. Besides
they come setup for a camera not a puter. The mbr contains a startup
program
for a camera. Besides a lot of flash chips are fakes.
When you format them the fakes stand out. An 8 gig chip
might reformat as a 2 gig because it really is a 2 gig chip
with the mbr doctored.
Thanks for the link.

cheers
DS




On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:02:41 -0500 dmccunney 
writes:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Dale E Sterner 
>  wrote:
> > My old puter doesn't read html 5. I have to use Android tablet.
> > It downloads apps OK but for other stuff it seems to balk.
> > Still learning how to get this Android to work well.
> 
> Try 
> http://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/sedit110.zip
> as an alternate source for SETEDIT.
> 
> > You remember I said that micro SD chips format slowly.
> > I take it back; I had a bad chip. If you put them in a cr-7100 
> adapter.
> > They're almost as fast as a CF chip.
> 
> They come formatted as FAT32 out of the box.  Why would you need to 
> format one?
> 
> > cheers
> > DS
> __
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Rugxulo]

Hi again, (off-topic)

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 2:46 AM, Rugxulo  wrote:
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

It's been years since I used SETEDIT. Although it was nice, there were
many other (often DJGPP-compiled) editors. IIRC, it's the same editor
core that was used in (DJGPP) RHIDE. Alas, both are basically
abandoned (but RHIDE much moreso). Not sure of the details, but the
last DJGPP build of SETEDIT was circa 2004 (IIRC).

(continued below)

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Louis Santillan  wrote:
> Zip
> 
>
> Installer inside of Zip
> 

IIRC, I think the installer (-i.zip) is the full package, but the
other one (-b.zip) is just a replacement main .EXE, so I wouldn't
recommend that one.

> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Don Flowers  wrote:
>> It is in the FreeDOS 1.0 pkg repo
>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/pkgs/

1). 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/edit/setedit/edi054i.zip
   (1.9 MB)

2a). http://na.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/djgpp/current/v2apps/edi054i.zip
   (or presumably any DJGPP mirror)
2b). ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/pc/languages/djgpp/current/v2apps/edi054i.zip
   (if HTTP isn't preferred, use FTP)


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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Louis Santillan]

Zip


Installer inside of Zip



On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Don Flowers  wrote:
> It is in the FreeDOS 1.0 pkg repo
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/pkgs/
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:09 PM, dmccunney 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, dmccunney 
>> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Dale E Sterner 
>> > wrote:
>> >> My old puter doesn't read html 5. I have to use Android tablet.
>> >> It downloads apps OK but for other stuff it seems to balk.
>> >> Still learning how to get this Android to work well.
>> >
>> > Try http://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/sedit110.zip
>> > as an alternate source for SETEDIT.
>>
>> Oops!  Wrong editor.  That one gets you SEDIT, which is a different
>> product.  Sorry.
>>
>> And I suspect the problem with SourceForge isn't HTML5, it's
>> JavaScript.  Just about everything uses it now, and I'm not aware of
>> any DOS browser that supports it.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Don Flowers]

It is in the FreeDOS 1.0 pkg repo
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/pkgs/

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:09 PM, dmccunney 
wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, dmccunney 
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Dale E Sterner 
> wrote:
> >> My old puter doesn't read html 5. I have to use Android tablet.
> >> It downloads apps OK but for other stuff it seems to balk.
> >> Still learning how to get this Android to work well.
> >
> > Try http://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/sedit110.zip
> > as an alternate source for SETEDIT.
>
> Oops!  Wrong editor.  That one gets you SEDIT, which is a different
> product.  Sorry.
>
> And I suspect the problem with SourceForge isn't HTML5, it's
> JavaScript.  Just about everything uses it now, and I'm not aware of
> any DOS browser that supports it.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[dmccunney]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, dmccunney  wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Dale E Sterner  wrote:
>> My old puter doesn't read html 5. I have to use Android tablet.
>> It downloads apps OK but for other stuff it seems to balk.
>> Still learning how to get this Android to work well.
>
> Try http://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/sedit110.zip
> as an alternate source for SETEDIT.

Oops!  Wrong editor.  That one gets you SEDIT, which is a different
product.  Sorry.

And I suspect the problem with SourceForge isn't HTML5, it's
JavaScript.  Just about everything uses it now, and I'm not aware of
any DOS browser that supports it.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[dmccunney]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Dale E Sterner  wrote:
> My old puter doesn't read html 5. I have to use Android tablet.
> It downloads apps OK but for other stuff it seems to balk.
> Still learning how to get this Android to work well.

Try http://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/sedit110.zip
as an alternate source for SETEDIT.

> You remember I said that micro SD chips format slowly.
> I take it back; I had a bad chip. If you put them in a cr-7100 adapter.
> They're almost as fast as a CF chip.

They come formatted as FAT32 out of the box.  Why would you need to format one?

> cheers
> DS
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Dale E Sterner]

My old puter doesn't read html 5. I have to use Android tablet.
It downloads apps OK but for other stuff it seems to balk.
Still learning how to get this Android to work well.
You remember I said that micro SD chips format slowly.
I take it back; I had a bad chip. If you put them in a cr-7100 adapter.
They're almost as fast as a CF chip.

cheers
DS

On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:19:03 -0500 dmccunney 
writes:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Dale E Sterner  
> wrote:
> > Where do you get setedit?
> 
> http://setedit.sourceforge.net/
> 
> > cheers
> > DS
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[John Hupp]

I don't know, sorry.

On 2/26/2016 10:14 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
> Is there any other link like ibilo. Sourcefore is using html 5. I have to
> use the tablet
> for that one. Tablets are a pain sometimes.
>
>
> cheers
> DS
>
>
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:55:57 -0500 John Hupp 
> writes:
>> http://setedit.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> On 2/26/2016 9:54 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
>>> Where do you get setedit?
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> DS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:20:38 -0500 John Hupp
>> 
>>> writes:
 I installed SETEDIT last night.  First impression of this text
 editor: nice!

 On 2/25/2016 10:03 AM, John Hupp wrote:
> Thanks for the recommendation.  I'll have a look.
>
> On 2/24/2016 9:40 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
>> I had forgotten how bad that cursor is in EDIT, I use SETEDIT
>> for
>> most everything these days. I just tried a no-blink utility and
 that
>> helps a bit more, but not enough to waste the memory.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:06 PM, John Hupp
 > > wrote:
>>
>>   I tried this today.  It improves the pointer situation in
 Edit,
>>   but the arrow gets chopped up a lot as I move it around.
>>
>>   Something about Edit seems to be hostile to pointers.
>> Nothing
>>   else looks nearly so bad.
>>
>>   But for the degree of improvement in Edit, it sits in
>> memory
 all
>>   the time occupying 7K, so I may remove it and let Edit
 function
>>   like keyboard-only.
>>
>>
>>   On 2/20/2016 6:37 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
>>>   I use this neat little mouse pointer it's pretty cool.
>>>   http://www.pcorner.com/list/GRAPHUTI/PP111.ZIP/INFO/
>>>
>>>   On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:27 PM, John Hupp
>>>    wrote:
>>>
>>>   With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real
>>>   hardware (Pentium
>>>   II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4
 MB), I
>>>   find that
>>>   the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost
>>>   invisible.   There
>>>   are partial-image flashes of the expected brown
 rectangle.
>>>   But if I
>>>   open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown
>> rectangle
>>>   while the menu
>>>   is open.
>>>
>>>   In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice
>> solid
 gray.
>>>   I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a
 CRT.
>>>   I don't have anything additional installed on this
 system
>>>   yet so I don't
>>>   know what the behavior will be in other programs.
>>>
>>>   The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit --
>> it's
>>>   usually flashing
>>>   but fully visible -- but I have never seen it
>> virtually
>>>   invisible like
>>>   this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until
>> I
>>>   stepped through
>>>   the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE
>> does
>>>   indeed run
>>>   successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the
 visual
>>>   traces of
>>>   the pointer in Edit.
>>>
>>>   Does anyone have an explanation or solution?
>>>


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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[dmccunney]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Dale E Sterner  wrote:
> Where do you get setedit?

http://setedit.sourceforge.net/

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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[John Hupp]

http://setedit.sourceforge.net/

On 2/26/2016 9:54 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
> Where do you get setedit?
>
> cheers
> DS
>
>
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:20:38 -0500 John Hupp 
> writes:
>> I installed SETEDIT last night.  First impression of this text
>> editor: nice!
>>
>> On 2/25/2016 10:03 AM, John Hupp wrote:
>>> Thanks for the recommendation.  I'll have a look.
>>>
>>> On 2/24/2016 9:40 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
 I had forgotten how bad that cursor is in EDIT, I use SETEDIT for
 most everything these days. I just tried a no-blink utility and
>> that
 helps a bit more, but not enough to waste the memory.

 On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:06 PM, John Hupp
>> > wrote:

  I tried this today.  It improves the pointer situation in
>> Edit,
  but the arrow gets chopped up a lot as I move it around.

  Something about Edit seems to be hostile to pointers. Nothing
  else looks nearly so bad.

  But for the degree of improvement in Edit, it sits in memory
>> all
  the time occupying 7K, so I may remove it and let Edit
>> function
  like keyboard-only.


  On 2/20/2016 6:37 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
>  I use this neat little mouse pointer it's pretty cool.
>  http://www.pcorner.com/list/GRAPHUTI/PP111.ZIP/INFO/
>
>  On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:27 PM, John Hupp
>   wrote:
>
>  With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real
>  hardware (Pentium
>  II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4
>> MB), I
>  find that
>  the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost
>  invisible.   There
>  are partial-image flashes of the expected brown
>> rectangle.
>  But if I
>  open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown rectangle
>  while the menu
>  is open.
>
>  In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice solid
>> gray.
>  I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a
>> CRT.
>  I don't have anything additional installed on this
>> system
>  yet so I don't
>  know what the behavior will be in other programs.
>
>  The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit -- it's
>  usually flashing
>  but fully visible -- but I have never seen it virtually
>  invisible like
>  this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until I
>  stepped through
>  the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE does
>  indeed run
>  successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the
>> visual
>  traces of
>  the pointer in Edit.
>
>  Does anyone have an explanation or solution?
>


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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Dale E Sterner]

Where do you get setedit?

cheers
DS


On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:20:38 -0500 John Hupp 
writes:
> I installed SETEDIT last night.  First impression of this text 
> editor: nice!
> 
> On 2/25/2016 10:03 AM, John Hupp wrote:
> > Thanks for the recommendation.  I'll have a look.
> >
> > On 2/24/2016 9:40 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
> >> I had forgotten how bad that cursor is in EDIT, I use SETEDIT for 
> 
> >> most everything these days. I just tried a no-blink utility and 
> that 
> >> helps a bit more, but not enough to waste the memory.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:06 PM, John Hupp 
>  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I tried this today.  It improves the pointer situation in 
> Edit,
> >> but the arrow gets chopped up a lot as I move it around.
> >>
> >> Something about Edit seems to be hostile to pointers. Nothing
> >> else looks nearly so bad.
> >>
> >> But for the degree of improvement in Edit, it sits in memory 
> all
> >> the time occupying 7K, so I may remove it and let Edit 
> function
> >> like keyboard-only.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/20/2016 6:37 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
> >>> I use this neat little mouse pointer it's pretty cool.
> >>> http://www.pcorner.com/list/GRAPHUTI/PP111.ZIP/INFO/
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:27 PM, John Hupp
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real
> >>> hardware (Pentium
> >>> II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4 
> MB), I
> >>> find that
> >>> the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost
> >>> invisible.   There
> >>> are partial-image flashes of the expected brown 
> rectangle. 
> >>> But if I
> >>> open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown rectangle
> >>> while the menu
> >>> is open.
> >>>
> >>> In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice solid 
> gray.
> >>>
> >>> I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a 
> CRT.
> >>>
> >>> I don't have anything additional installed on this 
> system
> >>> yet so I don't
> >>> know what the behavior will be in other programs.
> >>>
> >>> The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit -- it's
> >>> usually flashing
> >>> but fully visible -- but I have never seen it virtually
> >>> invisible like
> >>> this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until I
> >>> stepped through
> >>> the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE does
> >>> indeed run
> >>> successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the 
> visual
> >>> traces of
> >>> the pointer in Edit.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have an explanation or solution?
> >>>
> >
> 


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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[John Hupp]

I installed SETEDIT last night.  First impression of this text editor: nice!

On 2/25/2016 10:03 AM, John Hupp wrote:

Thanks for the recommendation.  I'll have a look.

On 2/24/2016 9:40 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
I had forgotten how bad that cursor is in EDIT, I use SETEDIT for 
most everything these days. I just tried a no-blink utility and that 
helps a bit more, but not enough to waste the memory.


On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:06 PM, John Hupp > wrote:


I tried this today.  It improves the pointer situation in Edit,
but the arrow gets chopped up a lot as I move it around.

Something about Edit seems to be hostile to pointers. Nothing
else looks nearly so bad.

But for the degree of improvement in Edit, it sits in memory all
the time occupying 7K, so I may remove it and let Edit function
like keyboard-only.


On 2/20/2016 6:37 PM, Don Flowers wrote:

I use this neat little mouse pointer it's pretty cool.
http://www.pcorner.com/list/GRAPHUTI/PP111.ZIP/INFO/

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:27 PM, John Hupp
 wrote:

With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real
hardware (Pentium
II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4 MB), I
find that
the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost
invisible.   There
are partial-image flashes of the expected brown rectangle. 
But if I

open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown rectangle
while the menu
is open.

In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice solid gray.

I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a CRT.

I don't have anything additional installed on this system
yet so I don't
know what the behavior will be in other programs.

The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit -- it's
usually flashing
but fully visible -- but I have never seen it virtually
invisible like
this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until I
stepped through
the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE does
indeed run
successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the visual
traces of
the pointer in Edit.

Does anyone have an explanation or solution?





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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[John Hupp]

Thanks for the recommendation.  I'll have a look.

On 2/24/2016 9:40 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
I had forgotten how bad that cursor is in EDIT, I use SETEDIT for most 
everything these days. I just tried a no-blink utility and that helps 
a bit more, but not enough to waste the memory.


On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:06 PM, John Hupp > wrote:


I tried this today.  It improves the pointer situation in Edit,
but the arrow gets chopped up a lot as I move it around.

Something about Edit seems to be hostile to pointers. Nothing else
looks nearly so bad.

But for the degree of improvement in Edit, it sits in memory all
the time occupying 7K, so I may remove it and let Edit function
like keyboard-only.


On 2/20/2016 6:37 PM, Don Flowers wrote:

I use this neat little mouse pointer it's pretty cool.
http://www.pcorner.com/list/GRAPHUTI/PP111.ZIP/INFO/

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:27 PM, John Hupp
> wrote:

With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real hardware
(Pentium
II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4 MB), I
find that
the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost
invisible.   There
are partial-image flashes of the expected brown rectangle. 
But if I

open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown rectangle while
the menu
is open.

In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice solid gray.

I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a CRT.

I don't have anything additional installed on this system yet
so I don't
know what the behavior will be in other programs.

The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit -- it's
usually flashing
but fully visible -- but I have never seen it virtually
invisible like
this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until I
stepped through
the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE does indeed run
successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the visual
traces of
the pointer in Edit.

Does anyone have an explanation or solution?



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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Don Flowers]

I had forgotten how bad that cursor is in EDIT, I use SETEDIT for most
everything these days. I just tried a no-blink utility and that helps a bit
more, but not enough to waste the memory.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:06 PM, John Hupp  wrote:

> I tried this today.  It improves the pointer situation in Edit, but the
> arrow gets chopped up a lot as I move it around.
>
> Something about Edit seems to be hostile to pointers.  Nothing else looks
> nearly so bad.
>
> But for the degree of improvement in Edit, it sits in memory all the time
> occupying 7K, so I may remove it and let Edit function like keyboard-only.
>
>
> On 2/20/2016 6:37 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
>
> I use this neat little mouse pointer it's pretty cool.
> http://www.pcorner.com/list/GRAPHUTI/PP111.ZIP/INFO/
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:27 PM, John Hupp  wrote:
>
>> With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real hardware (Pentium
>> II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4 MB), I find that
>> the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost invisible.   There
>> are partial-image flashes of the expected brown rectangle.  But if I
>> open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown rectangle while the menu
>> is open.
>>
>> In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice solid gray.
>>
>> I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a CRT.
>>
>> I don't have anything additional installed on this system yet so I don't
>> know what the behavior will be in other programs.
>>
>> The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit -- it's usually flashing
>> but fully visible -- but I have never seen it virtually invisible like
>> this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until I stepped through
>> the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE does indeed run
>> successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the visual traces of
>> the pointer in Edit.
>>
>> Does anyone have an explanation or solution?
>>
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[John Hupp]

I tried this today.  It improves the pointer situation in Edit, but the 
arrow gets chopped up a lot as I move it around.


Something about Edit seems to be hostile to pointers.  Nothing else 
looks nearly so bad.


But for the degree of improvement in Edit, it sits in memory all the 
time occupying 7K, so I may remove it and let Edit function like 
keyboard-only.


On 2/20/2016 6:37 PM, Don Flowers wrote:

I use this neat little mouse pointer it's pretty cool.
http://www.pcorner.com/list/GRAPHUTI/PP111.ZIP/INFO/

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:27 PM, John Hupp > wrote:


With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real hardware (Pentium
II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4 MB), I find that
the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost invisible. 
 There

are partial-image flashes of the expected brown rectangle. But if I
open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown rectangle while the menu
is open.

In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice solid gray.

I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a CRT.

I don't have anything additional installed on this system yet so I
don't
know what the behavior will be in other programs.

The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit -- it's usually
flashing
but fully visible -- but I have never seen it virtually invisible like
this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until I stepped
through
the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE does indeed run
successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the visual traces of
the pointer in Edit.

Does anyone have an explanation or solution?


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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Dale E Sterner]

Nice link I hope it works. Cute mouse not listed in the driver section.
I doubt it matters.

cheers
DS


On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 18:37:44 -0500 Don Flowers 
writes:
> I use this neat little mouse pointer it's pretty cool.
> http://www.pcorner.com/list/GRAPHUTI/PP111.ZIP/INFO/
> 
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:27 PM, John Hupp  
> wrote:
> 
> > With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real hardware 
> (Pentium
> > II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4 MB), I find 
> that
> > the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost invisible.   
> There
> > are partial-image flashes of the expected brown rectangle.  But if 
> I
> > open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown rectangle while the 
> menu
> > is open.
> >
> > In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice solid gray.
> >
> > I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a CRT.
> >
> > I don't have anything additional installed on this system yet so I 
> don't
> > know what the behavior will be in other programs.
> >
> > The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit -- it's usually 
> flashing
> > but fully visible -- but I have never seen it virtually invisible 
> like
> > this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until I stepped 
> through
> > the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE does indeed run
> > successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the visual 
> traces of
> > the pointer in Edit.
> >
> > Does anyone have an explanation or solution?
> >
> >
> > 
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[Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[John Hupp]

With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real hardware (Pentium 
II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4 MB), I find that 
the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost invisible.   There 
are partial-image flashes of the expected brown rectangle.  But if I 
open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown rectangle while the menu 
is open.

In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice solid gray.

I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a CRT.

I don't have anything additional installed on this system yet so I don't 
know what the behavior will be in other programs.

The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit -- it's usually flashing 
but fully visible -- but I have never seen it virtually invisible like 
this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until I stepped through 
the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE does indeed run 
successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the visual traces of 
the pointer in Edit.

Does anyone have an explanation or solution?

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