Re: [Freedos-user] Rasberry Pi may save DOS
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Carl spitzer wrote: > Afterall most appliances are in technical terms rather simple and though > some like model trains get by with TinyOS others might get by with DOS and > more complex things can be left to Linux. I rather doubt it. One thing that gets a *lot* of attention lately is the Internet of Things, where the underlying assumption is that all manner of devices that humans don't deal with directly will be able to communicate with each other over the Internet, using TCP-IP. This is possible because increasingly, devices that might do this use 32 bit microprocessors. Hardware is *cheap*. You can put a 32 bit CPU and enough storage to hold an OS including a full TCP-IP stack, application code and data into a *very* small package, and do so inexpensively.. The Raspberry Pi is an example. Given that you *can* do that, why run a 16 bit OS? The short answer is "You don't." Those 32 bit CPUs may not run Linux - depending on what they do, the nod may go to a real-time OS - but they won't run DOS. Among other things, the CPUs may not be x86, but rather based on ARM or MIPS designs. And given that the hardware will support it, the devices may well require a multi-tasking OS. DOS has roots in the days when hardware was expensive, and was designed to run in limited resources. For the most part, those constraints increasingly don't exist. The niche that DOS was designed to fill has been progressively shrinking. > think of the software world as a pantheon with Winblows as the villain. It isn't, really, but that's a different discussion. > CWSIV __ Dennis -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Rasberry Pi may save DOS
On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 09:19 -0700, Steve Andy De George wrote: > That is cool, however DOSBox doesn't run everything. If it's not a > game, they don't care if it fails to run. The DOSBox project was > created strictly for games, though other people do happen to use it > for other things now and again. > > > So it's not really *saving DOS* when you use DOSbox :) > There is WineHQ as well which is said to be FreeDOS based. I wonder if there are some of their developers on this list? A joint project could help both grow faster and the Raspberry may be key to a future for embedded work in appliances etc. Afterall most appliances are in technical terms rather simple and though some like model trains get by with TinyOS others might get by with DOS and more complex things can be left to Linux. think of the software world as a pantheon with Winblows as the villain. CWSIV -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Rasberry Pi may save DOS
That is cool, however DOSBox doesn't run everything. If it's not a game, they don't care if it fails to run. The DOSBox project was created strictly for games, though other people do happen to use it for other things now and again. So it's not really *saving DOS* when you use DOSbox :) > From: lynuxro...@gmail.com > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 17:45:05 -0700 > Subject: [Freedos-user] Rasberry Pi may save DOS > > According to our OCLUG.org expert, Tom Miller > > there is some Raspi - X86 Emulation: > > Have you seen these? > > sudo apt-get install dosbox > http://www.codingepiphany.com/2013/03/30/raspberry-pi-retro-gaming-mania-part-2-dosbox/ > > http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Special_Keys > > http://hackaday.com/2013/03/26/raspberry-pi-the-perfect-machine-for-old-dos-games/ > > Native Raspi Store > http://store.raspberrypi.com/projects/rpix86 > > Biggest DOS collection: > https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary > > > > > -- > Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. > GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that > you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. > Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. > https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Rasberry Pi may save DOS
According to our OCLUG.org expert, Tom Miller there is some Raspi - X86 Emulation: Have you seen these? sudo apt-get install dosbox http://www.codingepiphany.com/2013/03/30/raspberry-pi-retro-gaming-mania-part-2-dosbox/ http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Special_Keys http://hackaday.com/2013/03/26/raspberry-pi-the-perfect-machine-for-old-dos-games/ Native Raspi Store http://store.raspberrypi.com/projects/rpix86 Biggest DOS collection: https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user