Re: [Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc
Hans schrieb: >>> Hans schrieb: >>> I think you are up against quite a difficult software task. The days of >>> NE2000 compatible ethernet controllers are long gone (unless I am >>> wrong?), >>> so your best bet is to find the Linux driver and datasheets for your >>> controller and see if you can make it work under DOS. >> >> For what you need NE2000 compatible? Access to network in DOS is >> fortunately not directly to hardware (like with sound) but to packet >> drivers. > > but you still need a software layer between the DOS packet driver and > the actually hardware chip on the PCI bus, right? For exapmle: your network card <-> packet driver <-> Arachne You need a packet driver for your network card, most likely the packet driver will provide 0x60. As soon the packet driver is found any packet driver aware software such as Arache or Lynx will work. If you have a conventional router (which are widespread today) it is commonly providing DHCP. Arachne or Lnyx configure them self thought DHCP, no matter which network card you have as soon the packet driver is working you can be happy. - It's harder if you want to connect to the internet directly without a router. With an DSL modem directly it's quite complicated. As far I understand you must let a special driver for direct connections (there is only pepa) listen on 0x60 while your packet driver is listening on 0x61. Pepa keeps care on talking and forwarding to 0x61 while its dialing and providing 0x60 for any application (Arachne, Lynx again). But unfortunately I wasn't smart enough to get pepa to work. > > Hans > www.ht-lab.com > > > > > -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc
>> Hans schrieb: >> I think you are up against quite a difficult software task. The days of >> NE2000 compatible ethernet controllers are long gone (unless I am >> wrong?), >> so your best bet is to find the Linux driver and datasheets for your >> controller and see if you can make it work under DOS. > > For what you need NE2000 compatible? Access to network in DOS is > fortunately not directly to hardware (like with sound) but to packet > drivers. but you still need a software layer between the DOS packet driver and the actually hardware chip on the PCI bus, right? Hans www.ht-lab.com -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc
I second this suggestion; Netbootdisk is one of the most powerful single-floppy packages you'll ever see, and let me boot machines into DOS that I had nearly given up hope on. > -Original Message- > From: Fabrício Ceolin [mailto:ceo...@ulevel.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:37 AM > To: Hans; freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: b...@vom.com > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc > > You can search about netbootdisk > www.netbootdisk.com > > > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Hans wrote: > > > Hi Bray, > > > - Original Message - > From: "Braden C. Roberson-Mailloux" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:12 PM > Subject: [Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc > > > > > > First, a shout out to Hans, mr, and Mark for helping > me install FreeDOS to > > my EEEpc. It's Alive! > > > > Second, are the drivers required to run the TCP/IP > stack specific to the > > ethernet device in a computer? I would like to start > writing some simple > > socket software to grab my email whenever an ethernet > jack is available. > > Is > > there a socket library available for DOS? Also, does > anyone know of some > > DHCP software for DOS? > > > I think you are up against quite a difficult software > task. The days of > NE2000 compatible ethernet controllers are long gone > (unless I am wrong?), > so your best bet is to find the Linux driver and > datasheets for your > controller and see if you can make it work under DOS. > > Good luck, > Hans. > www.ht-lab.com > > > > > > > -- > > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the > browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use > existing skills and code to > build responsive, highly engaging applications that > combine the power of local > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download > the Adobe AIR SDK and > Ajax docs to start building applications > today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > > -- > Fabrício Ceolin > ulevel.com > Diretor Executivo > > -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc
Hans schrieb: > Hi Bray, > > - Original Message - > From: "Braden C. Roberson-Mailloux" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:12 PM > Subject: [Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc > > >> First, a shout out to Hans, mr, and Mark for helping me install FreeDOS to >> my EEEpc. It's Alive! >> >> Second, are the drivers required to run the TCP/IP stack specific to the >> ethernet device in a computer? I would like to start writing some simple >> socket software to grab my email whenever an ethernet jack is available. >> Is >> there a socket library available for DOS? Also, does anyone know of some >> DHCP software for DOS? > > I think you are up against quite a difficult software task. The days of > NE2000 compatible ethernet controllers are long gone (unless I am wrong?), > so your best bet is to find the Linux driver and datasheets for your > controller and see if you can make it work under DOS. For what you need NE2000 compatible? Access to network in DOS is fortunately not directly to hardware (like with sound) but to packet drivers. I've even found a packet driver for my recent computer, very long time after "designed for DOS" was important. -mr > > Good luck, > Hans. > www.ht-lab.com > > > > > -- > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc
You can search about netbootdisk www.netbootdisk.com On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Hans wrote: > Hi Bray, > > - Original Message - > From: "Braden C. Roberson-Mailloux" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:12 PM > Subject: [Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc > > > > > > First, a shout out to Hans, mr, and Mark for helping me install FreeDOS > to > > my EEEpc. It's Alive! > > > > Second, are the drivers required to run the TCP/IP stack specific to the > > ethernet device in a computer? I would like to start writing some simple > > socket software to grab my email whenever an ethernet jack is available. > > Is > > there a socket library available for DOS? Also, does anyone know of some > > DHCP software for DOS? > > I think you are up against quite a difficult software task. The days of > NE2000 compatible ethernet controllers are long gone (unless I am wrong?), > so your best bet is to find the Linux driver and datasheets for your > controller and see if you can make it work under DOS. > > Good luck, > Hans. > www.ht-lab.com > > > > > > -- > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with > Adobe(R)AIR(TM) > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code > to > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of > local > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK > and > Ajax docs to start building applications today- > http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Fabrício Ceolin ulevel.com Diretor Executivo -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc
Hi Bray, - Original Message - From: "Braden C. Roberson-Mailloux" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:12 PM Subject: [Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc > > First, a shout out to Hans, mr, and Mark for helping me install FreeDOS to > my EEEpc. It's Alive! > > Second, are the drivers required to run the TCP/IP stack specific to the > ethernet device in a computer? I would like to start writing some simple > socket software to grab my email whenever an ethernet jack is available. > Is > there a socket library available for DOS? Also, does anyone know of some > DHCP software for DOS? I think you are up against quite a difficult software task. The days of NE2000 compatible ethernet controllers are long gone (unless I am wrong?), so your best bet is to find the Linux driver and datasheets for your controller and see if you can make it work under DOS. Good luck, Hans. www.ht-lab.com -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc
Eric Auer schrieb: > Hi! > >> First, a shout out to Hans, mr, and Mark for helping >> me install FreeDOS to my EEEpc. It's Alive! I am glad to help. :) >> Second, are the drivers required to run the TCP/IP stack >> specific to the ethernet device in a computer? You need a packet driver to use the lan chip. Do you have some already? Look at http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.PacketDriver >> Is there a socket library available for DOS? >> Also, does anyone know of some DHCP software for DOS? > > Most people use Wattcp or, with 32bit compilers like > DJGPP (GNU C for DOS) Watt-32. It is a library that > you link into your binary, and it includes DHCP :-). If I remember right it was for both, real and protected mode. May be possible that I have forgotten to answer something because I understood the question in another way, in this case just ask the open question again. -mr -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc
Hi! > First, a shout out to Hans, mr, and Mark for helping > me install FreeDOS to my EEEpc. It's Alive! Please write a summary of the tricks you needed to make it run. When I last tried, a generic "bootable DOS USB stick" worked at once, but had problems with FDAPM ACPI. FDAPM APMDOS worked okay, though, as far as I remember. I also have an updated LBACACHE which works better with BIOS USB drivers: Let me know if I can email it to you for testing. > Second, are the drivers required to run the TCP/IP stack > specific to the ethernet device in a computer? I would > like to start writing some simple socket software to grab > my email whenever an ethernet jack is available. How about using Arachne? It is a web browser with SMTP and POP3 email support but without Java Script etc etc. > Is there a socket library available for DOS? > Also, does anyone know of some DHCP software for DOS? Most people use Wattcp or, with 32bit compilers like DJGPP (GNU C for DOS) Watt-32. It is a library that you link into your binary, and it includes DHCP :-). Eric -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] TCP/IP Driver for EEEpc
First, a shout out to Hans, mr, and Mark for helping me install FreeDOS to my EEEpc. It's Alive! Second, are the drivers required to run the TCP/IP stack specific to the ethernet device in a computer? I would like to start writing some simple socket software to grab my email whenever an ethernet jack is available. Is there a socket library available for DOS? Also, does anyone know of some DHCP software for DOS? Thanks; Bray -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
