Re: [Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

2009-07-01 Thread Aitor Santamaría
The kernel files are now mirrored to ibiblio:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2038/kernel2038-fat16-binary.zip
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2038/kernel2038-fat32-binary.zip
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2038/kernel2038-source.zip

Thanks to kernel developers for this important release!
Aitor


2009/6/13 Pat Villani :
> I would like to thank all the folks who have worked very hard to
> produce this latest kernel.  Their effort is very much appreciated by
> myself and all the people who continue to use FreeDOS in various
> applications.
>
> I am looking forward to using this new kernel and updating the distribution.
>
> Pat
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Re: [Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

2009-06-18 Thread dos386
> I like this.  Why not release it now?

Release what ??? Kernel has been released at SF ,
about 1.1 distro ... IMHO good idea to release :-)



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Re: [Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

2009-06-17 Thread Marco Antonio Achury Palma
I like this.  Why not release it now?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

2009-06-15 Thread Alain Mouette
I am also very glad for the new kernel. I am waiting for the 1.1 version 
impatiently.

I have made a FreeDOS distro of my own. Philosoficaly it is an installer 
radicaly oposed to FreeDOS's. My intention was to get close to the 
original DOS installer, wich is... nothing :) ... I just added a very 
simple .bat menu for formating enc copying. This has been used by 
completly layman clients with great success

I will release an english version soon after the 1.1 official comes out.

Thanks all,
Alain Mouette
São Paulo, Brasil

Marcos Favero Florence de Barros escreveu:
> Just want to add my own thanks for the new kernel.
> 
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[Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

2009-06-14 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Just want to add my own thanks for the new kernel.

Marcos
Regular FreeDOS user
Sao Paulo, Brazil



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Re: [Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

2009-06-14 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Florian,

>> USBDOS device scan is part of install but should
>>   only be done AFTER install, no USB devices used DURING install
> 
> USB support in FreeDOS?

The FreeDOS 1.0 FULL distro defaults to downloading various
proprietary but free USB drivers (which can hang because the
NIC and DHCP autoconfig can hang) and then run the drivers.
Alledgedly to allow you to access USB drives during install,
but you cannot easily switch the target to the USB drive at
that late moment during install, and the USB bus scan also
had a considerable risk of hanging or crashing. Because of
those crash-risks, I recommend that FreeDOS 1.1 delays all
downloads and USB bus scans to after installing an initial
working system. This will make initial install much faster
and much more reliable. We have a POSTINST step already so
it would be easy to move risky activities to there :-).

Note that this only affects FULL, because BASE does not
include software which involves networking or other crash
risks as part of the install process :-).

Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

2009-06-14 Thread Florian Xaver
> USBDOS device scan is part of install but should
>   only be done AFTER install, no USB devices used DURING install

USB support in FreeDOS?

LG
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Re: [Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

2009-06-13 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Pat, Bart, Mateusz, Rugxulo, others,

> I would like to thank all the folks who have worked very hard to
> produce this latest kernel.  Their effort is very much appreciated by
> myself and all the people who continue to use FreeDOS in various
> applications.
> 
> I am looking forward to using this new kernel and updating the distribution.

You will probably want to wait for kernel 2039, as Bart already made
some nice features such as combined built-in-country and country sys
support and in-place-rename. He is also working on f-node removal :-)



Talking about the distribution, the files on
www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/fdupdate/wip/
need review so Mateusz can put them on
www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/fdupdate/
and then we have to check which of the packages are actual
updates compared to FreeDOS 1.0 and for which updates we
do not yet have new packages, see the version database at:
www.freedos.org/cgi-bin/lsm.cgi?mode=dir&dir=base



Once we have packages for all updates in BASE, we can put
those "on top of an existing 1.0 BASE ISO" to make almost
a complete 1.1 BASE ISO...

http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Install

lists the RELATIVELY minor OTHER bugs which should be fixed
before a FreeDOS 1.1 BASE and FULL ISO can be released. Many
affect only a FULL ISO, but many also affect a BASE ISO. The
problems which should really be fixed for 1.0, imho, are:



- whitespace after language in config sys generation must
  be removed, as some libraries cannot find files otherwise

- load without drivers option cannot be used until somebody
  adds a line "4?ECHO No drivers loaded" to config sys ;-)

- wrong usb settings (but will change with new drivers anyway)

- htmlhelp only in one language (we have DE / EN versions now)

- include PG and MORESYS for viewing files and output?

- FASTHELP / MAKEROM incomplete, FORTUNE broken (I have a fix)

- CWSDPMI should really be CWSDPMI, not HX RT DPMI, and updated

- packages which need internet during install should not be in
  the default selection: CDRTOOL / DFL - ASPI / SCSI, FPROT, VIA
  (replace FPROT by CLAMAV CLAMSCAN and update DB AFTER install)
  Problem is that autoconfigured NIC/DHCP for WGET are crash-prone

- a crash-prone USBDOS device scan is part of install but should
  only be done AFTER install, no USB devices used DURING install

- outside BASE, internet-less people should omit: WGET, FDSTPOP,
  BSFLITE, LNXSMAL, LYNX, OPENXP, VNC, HXRT, WATTCP, ARACHNE, CRYNWR

- EMACS, SETEDIT, VIM, FBC and PACIFICC could use batch files or
  aliases instead of each adding directories to PATH. You also
  have to run EMACS in its own dir twice to let it self-set-up...

- there should be more apps for the OPENGEM GUI in the distro

- TELNORG is a copy of TELNET, ZCAT/GUNZIP are copies of GZIP,
  so using aliases would save some space in those cases...

- to be able to use 4DOS HELPCFG, you have to de-UPX 4HELP first

- some big packages that might be put outside the default selection:
  XHARBOUR (Clipper clone) 8 MB, OWATCOM (OpenWatcom C) 30 MB,
  FPASCAL (FreePascal) 31 MB, KRaptor 11 MB, Image MAGICK 8 MB,
  Free DOOM 21 MB, VIM (several packages) 20 MB - if you do not
  install those, the other 200 packages need only 100 MB space.

- SHARE is more or less only needed for Windows so it could be
  configured to be loaded only for some boot menu items

If you know more problems with the FreeDOS 1.0 install: Mail us :-)

Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

2009-06-13 Thread Florian Xaver
Some years ago I thought that DOS was more or less dead. So I am very  
happy that there are people how continues. Many thanks, I will test it  
after my final exam next week.

Bye
  Flo

On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:33:11 +0200, Pat Villani  wrote:

> I would like to thank all the folks who have worked very hard to
> produce this latest kernel.  Their effort is very much appreciated by
> myself and all the people who continue to use FreeDOS in various
> applications.
>
> I am looking forward to using this new kernel and updating the  
> distribution.
>
> Pat
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[Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

2009-06-13 Thread Pat Villani
I would like to thank all the folks who have worked very hard to
produce this latest kernel.  Their effort is very much appreciated by
myself and all the people who continue to use FreeDOS in various
applications.

I am looking forward to using this new kernel and updating the distribution.

Pat

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