Re: [Freedos-user] beyond config.sys

2013-10-23 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:12 PM, "Jose Antonio Senna"
 wrote:
>  Miguel Garza  wrote:
>
>>> ...Honestly, seems to be easier to run stuff in a
>>> "DOS" window in XP than booting straight to DOS...
>
> and Dennis McCunney  replied:
>
>> It's not really a "DOS" window.  Run a 16 bit DOS program,
>> and Windows spawns NTVDM to provide an MS-DOS environment,
>> and a copy of COMMAND.COM to run the DOS app in a console window.
>> If you shell out of the DOS app in the console, you are in 32 bit
>> Windows land, talking to CMD.EXE

>> You can set up a preferred DOS environment in the \Windows\System32
>> autoexec.nt and config.nt files.  These are read and processed
>> whenever a DOS app is run.
>
>  Is all this true also of x86 Windows 7 ?
>  Indeed, can Window 7 (or 8) run a pure DOS program,
>  without use of an external emulator ?

It may be possible if you have a 32 bit version of Windows 7.  (IIRC,
there are folks on the WordStar list who deliberately got a 32 bit
version of Win 7 so they could still run WS7 in it. Win7 is the last
version of Windows that has a 32 bit version.  Win8 is straight 64
bit.)

It is *not* possible in 64 bit versions.  Native support for 16 bit
applications was dropped.  The only way to do it in 64 bit Windows is
to run a virtual machine.  If you have Windows 7 Pro, you can get
Microsoft's VM software and an XP image to run in it, then run the DOS
stuff in the XP VM.  Others have reported some success with
Oracle/Sun's open source VirtualBox VM software, or using VMWare
Workstation.  Expect to fiddle, regardless.

> JAS
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[Freedos-user] beyond config.sys

2013-10-23 Thread Jose Antonio Senna
 Miguel Garza  wrote:

>> ...Honestly, seems to be easier to run stuff in a 
>> "DOS" window in XP than booting straight to DOS...

and Dennis McCunney  replied:
 
> It's not really a "DOS" window.  Run a 16 bit DOS program, 
> and Windows spawns NTVDM to provide an MS-DOS environment, 
> and a copy of COMMAND.COM to run the DOS app in a console window.
> If you shell out of the DOS app in the console, you are in 32 bit
> Windows land, talking to CMD.EXE
> You can set up a preferred DOS environment in the \Windows\System32
> autoexec.nt and config.nt files.  These are read and processed
> whenever a DOS app is run.

 Is all this true also of x86 Windows 7 ?
 Indeed, can Window 7 (or 8) run a pure DOS program, 
 without use of an external emulator ?

JAS


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