Re: [Freedos-user] Bootable USB stick

2008-12-23 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Florian Xaver f...@drdos.org wrote:
 Hi!

 Nice, but why a blog post and not a new wiki site? I think you should
 move it.


We also have a FreeDOS Wiki now. I'm currently posting a bunch of
HOWTOs and mini HOWTOs from the FD-DOC Wiki, then FD-DOC will mostly
go away.

Feel free to post items like this to the FreeDOS Wiki.


-jh

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Re: [Freedos-user] Bootable USB stick

2008-12-23 Thread Michael Reichenbach
Wouldn't it be a good idea to get a backup of the wiki in case it's gone
someday?

Jim Hall schrieb:
 On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Florian Xaver f...@drdos.org wrote:
 Hi!

 Nice, but why a blog post and not a new wiki site? I think you should
 move it.

 
 We also have a FreeDOS Wiki now. I'm currently posting a bunch of
 HOWTOs and mini HOWTOs from the FD-DOC Wiki, then FD-DOC will mostly
 go away.
 
 Feel free to post items like this to the FreeDOS Wiki.
 
 
 -jh
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Bootable USB stick

2008-12-20 Thread Michael Reichenbach
Hi! :)

Nice, but why a blog post and not a new wiki site? I think you should
move it.

By the way we have already a similar page
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.USB
merge it? Didn't you know that great page? :)

The syslinux method is imho a bit complicated, I see no advantage in
syslinux over grub/grub4dos.

If you only want to use FreeDOS you also are not forced to use a
bootmanager, you can simply install FreeDOS into MBR. It's easy, get the
HP Drive Key (for Windows) insert a bootable floppy disk into A:\ and
the rest is self self-explanatory. (If you have no legacy floppy you can
use Virtual Floppy.)

A last comment about
http://ywesee.com/pmwiki.php/Site/FlashingBiosOfALinuxServer
I really do not recommend to boot from USB before doing BIOS flash
because BIOS flash is very risky and this approach is not
tested/documented by the BIOS update developers, it can work and it can
fail, do you want to be a tester?

-mr

Florian Xaver schrieb:
 Hi,
 
 I fought some hours with a new USB stick to make it bootable in DOS. I
 decided to share my experience and wrote following article:
 
 http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Blog.2007-12-20-ArticleBootableUSBsticks
 (you can edit it - just click EDIT and use gast as name and gast
 as password).
 
 BTW: Installation using Windows or Linux may be better, since I
 couldn't only use a computer with Windows.
 
 BTW2: The article uses SYSLINUX since other known possibilities didn't
 work with my USB stick, the BIOS or HP's program USB disk storage
 format tool.
 
 Comments are wellcome!
 
 Bye
  Flo


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Re: [Freedos-user] Bootable USB stick

2008-12-20 Thread Florian Xaver
Hi!

 Nice, but why a blog post and not a new wiki site? I think you should
 move it.

 By the way we have already a similar page
 http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.USB
 merge it? Didn't you know that great page? :)

Yes, I will do it in some days.

 If you only want to use FreeDOS you also are not forced to use a
 bootmanager, you can simply install FreeDOS into MBR. It's easy, get the
 HP Drive Key (for Windows) insert a bootable floppy disk into A:\ and
 the rest is self self-explanatory. (If you have no legacy floppy you can
 use Virtual Floppy.)

HP Drive Key didn't work for me.

Bye
 Flo
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[Freedos-user] bootable USB stick

2007-04-30 Thread Jim Lemon
Hi folks,

After using FreeDOS for some years to run a battery of human performance 
tests, I am running out of tricks keeping up with PC design. In order to 
run the tests on PCs without a VFAT partition, I now boot off a CD-ROM 
and write data to a diskette. Unfortunately, hardly any PCs these days 
are shipped with diskette drives...

My aim now is to create bootable USB sticks, running the whole show from 
the stick. The whole installation is not much over 10Mb, so there's 
plenty of room. I read Russell's tech note that indicates that USB 
keyboards and mice will work (they already do with my present setup, I 
use the 33h interrupt for the mice). However, I couldn't seem to find a 
comprehensible method for creating bootable USB sticks. Is there a cook 
book out there somewhere for doing this?

Jim

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Re: [Freedos-user] bootable USB stick

2007-04-30 Thread kd4d
Jim:

AFAIK, there are at least three different ways to install FreeDOS on a USB
stick.  Unfortunately, the BIOSs and USB sticks differ somewhat and I haven't
found a way that works all the time.

The easiest way, if you have the proper BIOS support, is to plug in the USB
stick, turn on the computer, and boot FreeDOS from a CD.  On SOME 
computers, the USB stick will show up (usually as C:).  In this particular
case, you can install FreeDOS normally, just like installing on a hard drive.

There is an HP Utility which runs under Windows which I have found works
MOST of the time:

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/serveroptions/us/locate/69_6073.html

This will reformat the USB stick, destroying all data on it.

The third way is to boot DOS using memdisk and syslinux.  The problem with
this is it is just like booting from CD and the USB stick isn't accessible
(unless you have the right BIOS support) after boot.

You can also use a USB floppy disk drive.  I've had good luck with those on
most computers.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Mark Bailey

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From: Jim Lemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi folks,
 
 After using FreeDOS for some years to run a battery of human performance 
 tests, I am running out of tricks keeping up with PC design. In order to 
 run the tests on PCs without a VFAT partition, I now boot off a CD-ROM 
 and write data to a diskette. Unfortunately, hardly any PCs these days 
 are shipped with diskette drives...
 
 My aim now is to create bootable USB sticks, running the whole show from 
 the stick. The whole installation is not much over 10Mb, so there's 
 plenty of room. I read Russell's tech note that indicates that USB 
 keyboards and mice will work (they already do with my present setup, I 
 use the 33h interrupt for the mice). However, I couldn't seem to find a 
 comprehensible method for creating bootable USB sticks. Is there a cook 
 book out there somewhere for doing this?
 
 Jim
 
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