[Freedos-user] floppy drive won't format disk...

2020-03-11 Thread michael
I'm running Freedos 1.3 RC2 installed from the live CD base system with sources.

C:>format a:
 Insert new diskette for drive A:
 Press ENTER when the right disk is in drive...
# Boot sector unreadable, disk not yet formatted
Using drive default: 1440k (Cyl=80 Head=2 Sec=18)
Cannot find existing format - forcing full format
Please enter volume label (max. 11 chars): FREEDOS2019
 Full Formatting (wiping all data)
Format_Floppy_Cylinder( head=0 cylinder=0 ) sectors=18 [int 13.5]

 Critical error during INT 13 disk access
 INT 13 satus (hex): 08
 Bits: DMA troubles
 Description: DMA overrun
Program terminated.
[Error 136]
C:>

I'm using a Digital Research Technologies ISA card with floppy controller. The 
box says Super ISA Multi-I/O Controller.

A possible problem is that I am on an EVOC single board Pentium 4 computer that 
is designed for USB floppy drives.

INT 13 sounds like a BIOS thing where the EVOC undoubtedly does NOT have the 
traditional BIOS.

The EVOC is the FSC-1714VNA model.

My passive ISA/PCI PICMG 1.0 backplane is undocumented. It is an HPP 14S. There 
are two jumpers on the backplane. One has been changed which is near the ATX 
connector on the backplane, the other appears to have something to do with the 
PCI bus.

The only format I have achieved is with a Teac USB floppy drive in Windows 
Millenium, the ISA card not installed at all.

Can someone shed light some light on Error 136 and DMA troubles?
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Re: [Freedos-user] floppy drive won't format disk...

2020-03-11 Thread michael
Research suggests that ACPI breaks ISA floppy in Windows XP... I wonder if ACPI 
is breaking Freedos 1.3 as well?

BIOS SETUP UTILITY

v02.58 (C)Copyright 1985-2004, American Megatrends, Inc.

AMIBIOS
Version : 08.00.12
Build Date: 05/26/07
ID: J8472006

Under Advanced -> Floppy Configuration

Floppy A 1.44 MB 3 1/2"
Floppy B Disabled

Under Advanced -> SuoperIO Configuration

OnBoard Floppy Controller Disabled
Floppy Drive Swap Disabled
Serial Port1 Address 3F8/IRQ4
Serial Port2 Address 2F8/IRQ3
Serial Port2 Mode Normal
Parallel Port Address 378
Parallel Port Mode ECP
ECP Mode DMA Channel DMA0
Parallel Port IRQ IRQ7
Onboard Game Port Enabled
OnBoard MIDI Port 330
MIDI IRQ Select IRQ10
March 11, 2020 7:27 PM, mich...@robinson-west.com 
(mailto:mich...@robinson-west.com) wrote:
I'm running Freedos 1.3 RC2 installed from the live CD base system with sources.

C:>format a:
Insert new diskette for drive A:
Press ENTER when the right disk is in drive...
# Boot sector unreadable, disk not yet formatted
Using drive default: 1440k (Cyl=80 Head=2 Sec=18)
Cannot find existing format - forcing full format
Please enter volume label (max. 11 chars): FREEDOS2019
Full Formatting (wiping all data)
Format_Floppy_Cylinder( head=0 cylinder=0 ) sectors=18 [int 13.5]

Critical error during INT 13 disk access
INT 13 satus (hex): 08
Bits: DMA troubles
Description: DMA overrun
Program terminated.
[Error 136]
C:>

I'm using a Digital Research Technologies ISA card with floppy controller. The 
box says Super ISA Multi-I/O Controller.

A possible problem is that I am on an EVOC single board Pentium 4 computer that 
is designed for USB floppy drives.

INT 13 sounds like a BIOS thing where the EVOC undoubtedly does NOT have the 
traditional BIOS.

The EVOC is the FSC-1714VNA model.

My passive ISA/PCI PICMG 1.0 backplane is undocumented. It is an HPP 14S. There 
are two jumpers on the backplane. One has been changed which is near the ATX 
connector on the backplane, the other appears to have something to do with the 
PCI bus.

The only format I have achieved is with a Teac USB floppy drive in Windows 
Millenium, the ISA card not installed at all.

Can someone shed light some light on Error 136 and DMA troubles?
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Re: [Freedos-user] floppy drive won't format disk...

2020-03-12 Thread tom ehlert


get a USB floppy drive.
format the floppy from Windows.

Tom



am Donnerstag, 12. März 2020 um 01:27 schrieben Sie:

> I'm running Freedos 1.3 RC2 installed from the live CD base system with 
> sources.

C:\>>format a:
> Insert new diskette for drive A:
> Press ENTER when the right disk is in drive...
> # Boot sector unreadable, disk not yet formatted
> Using drive default: 1440k (Cyl=80 Head=2 Sec=18)
> Cannot find existing format - forcing full format
> Please enter volume label (max. 11 chars): FREEDOS2019
> Full Formatting (wiping all data)
> Format_Floppy_Cylinder( head=0 cylinder=0 ) sectors=18 [int 13.5]

> Critical error during INT 13 disk access
> INT 13 satus (hex): 08
> Bits: DMA troubles
> Description: DMA overrun
> Program terminated.
> [Error 136]
C:\>>

> I'm using a Digital Research Technologies ISA card with floppy
> controller. The box says Super ISA Multi-I/O Controller.

> A possible problem is that I am on an EVOC single board Pentium 4
> computer that is designed for USB floppy drives.

> INT 13 sounds like a BIOS thing where the EVOC undoubtedly does NOT have the 
> traditional BIOS.

> The EVOC is the FSC-1714VNA model.

> My passive ISA/PCI PICMG 1.0 backplane is undocumented. It is an
> HPP 14S. There are two jumpers on the backplane. One has been
> changed which is near the ATX connector on the backplane, the other
> appears to have something to do with the PCI bus.

> The only format I have achieved is with a Teac USB floppy drive in
> Windows Millenium, the ISA card not installed at all.

> Can someone shed light some light on Error 136 and DMA troubles?



Hallo Herr FreeDOS.,




Mit freundlichen Grüßen / with kind regards
Tom Ehlert
+49-241-79886



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Re: [Freedos-user] floppy drive won't format disk...

2020-03-12 Thread Eric Auer


Hi Michael,

> Research suggests that ACPI breaks ISA floppy in Windows XP

Unlikely, if you ask me?

> Under Advanced -> SuperIO Configuration
> 
> OnBoard Floppy Controller Disabled
> Floppy Drive Swap Disabled

You should probably enable your floppy controller again ;-)

Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] floppy drive won't format disk...

2020-03-13 Thread michael
The BIOS option is for a USB floppy drive.  I'm actually running a real floppy 
controller as mentioned.

I don't think this will work period because the BIOS on the Evoc isn't designed 
for a real floppy controller.

As far as USB floppy, that may or may not work in Windows XP and higher.  They 
definitely don't work in Windows 10.

March 12, 2020 7:14 AM, "Eric Auer"  wrote:

> Hi Michael,
> 
>> Research suggests that ACPI breaks ISA floppy in Windows XP
> 
> Unlikely, if you ask me?
> 
>> Under Advanced -> SuperIO Configuration
>> 
>> OnBoard Floppy Controller Disabled
>> Floppy Drive Swap Disabled
> 
> You should probably enable your floppy controller again ;-)
> 
> Eric
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] floppy drive won't format disk...

2020-03-13 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 4:24 PM  wrote:

> As far as USB floppy, that may or may not work in Windows XP and higher.  
> They definitely don't work in Windows 10.

You have a problem USB floppy drive or a problem Win10 installation, or both.

I have a NEC USB 3.5" floppy drive that works just fine plugged into a
USB hub on my HP Core i5 desktop running Win10 Pro.   It worked on a
previous Win10 Pro  machine upgraded from Win7 Pro, and on Win7 Pro
before that.  (And I recall it working on an old Acer notebook
dual-booting WinXP Hop0me and Lubuntu Linux, but I'm not dragging that
pout now to test.)
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Dennis


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