Re: [Freedos-user] freedos 1.2 archivers

[Dimitris Zilaskos]

Thank you for your replies. I think I must had the wrong cd inserted,
because now I can see all the packages as expected. Sorry for the confusion!

Cheers,

Dimitris

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:36 AM, Rugxulo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Dimitris Zilaskos 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for the advice. I tried FDIMPLES, seem to show everything
> > installed, but for some reason p7zip is missing from its list.
>
> I don't really recommend p7zip for heavy use. For one thing, there is
> no active (DOS) maintainer, and it's somewhat buggy because of that
> (and the fact that it's really a very sloppy POSIX port that barely
> works with DJGPP). I don't grok C++, so I wasn't much further help
> regarding it. It does work, but it's far from perfect.
>
> If you just want to unpack .7z files, use 7zdec. But normally, as Jim
> Hall always tells us, ZIP is preferred overall, so just use (old but
> good) Info-Zip (zip / unzip).
>
> (Or you could run old standalone Win32 7za [sic] under HX. That worked
> pretty well. Besides, the DJGPP build of p7zip doesn't have 7z [sic]
> anyways ... although even that build [Win32] I did briefly get running
> under HX).
>
> There's also upstream DJGPP builds of XZ, if you just can't live
> without LZMA. And a billion other archivers (UHarc??). I honestly
> haven't kept up in recent years (not sure why I ever bothered, I'm not
> savvy enough to understand the details anyways).
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos 1.2 archivers

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Dimitris Zilaskos  wrote:
>
> Thank you for the advice. I tried FDIMPLES, seem to show everything
> installed, but for some reason p7zip is missing from its list.

I don't really recommend p7zip for heavy use. For one thing, there is
no active (DOS) maintainer, and it's somewhat buggy because of that
(and the fact that it's really a very sloppy POSIX port that barely
works with DJGPP). I don't grok C++, so I wasn't much further help
regarding it. It does work, but it's far from perfect.

If you just want to unpack .7z files, use 7zdec. But normally, as Jim
Hall always tells us, ZIP is preferred overall, so just use (old but
good) Info-Zip (zip / unzip).

(Or you could run old standalone Win32 7za [sic] under HX. That worked
pretty well. Besides, the DJGPP build of p7zip doesn't have 7z [sic]
anyways ... although even that build [Win32] I did briefly get running
under HX).

There's also upstream DJGPP builds of XZ, if you just can't live
without LZMA. And a billion other archivers (UHarc??). I honestly
haven't kept up in recent years (not sure why I ever bothered, I'm not
savvy enough to understand the details anyways).

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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos 1.2 archivers

[Jerome Shidel]

> On Aug 18, 2016, at 6:46 PM, Dimitris Zilaskos  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thank you for the advice. I tried FDIMPLES, seem to show everything 
> installed, but for some reason p7zip is missing from its list.

You sure. It should be listed between LZOP and  TAR. But, you need to scroll 
down to see it.

> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Dimitris
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:25 AM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:
>> If you run the installer in advanced mode, you can add them at installation 
>> by using detailed package selection.
>> 
>> You can switch the installer into Advanced mode at any point it is waiting 
>> on user input. For example, the installer runs in Normal mode when you boot. 
>> You continue through all the prompts until you reach the "BASE or ALL/FULL" 
>> package selection. Press CTRL+C, then select "Switch to Advanced mode" it 
>> will then return you back to the package set selection but now "Detailed 
>> selections" will be available. 
>> 
>> If you run the installer from the command prompt, you can start it in 
>> advanced mode by using "SETUP adv"
>> 
>> There are many things the installer does (or tries to do) automatically in 
>> Normal mode. But in Advanced mode, nearly all of those decisions are left to 
>> the user.
>> 
>> Also, if you use FDIMPLES (installed with FULL/ALL), you can browse through 
>> and select packages to be installed. Similar to using some Linux package 
>> browsing systems like Yast. FDIMPLES does not do networking at present. So, 
>> you will need to have you CD inserted. 
>> 
>> Jerome
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Dimitris Zilaskos  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok thanks. Would be awesome to have an option to get them installed.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Dimitris
>>> 
 On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:
 Hello,
 
 > On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Dimitris Zilaskos  
 > wrote:
 >
 > Hi,
 >
 > I did a full freedos 1.2 installation but not all archivers were 
 > installed. While I got them from the CD eventually from the ARCHIVERS 
 > directory I was wondering if that is supposed to happen.
 >
 > Best regards,
 >
 > Dimitris
 
 Yes, for now.
 
 There is roughly 400mb in about 100 packages that are included on the 1.2 
 cd and large USB stick versions that are included but not installed. At 
 present they are considered extra/bonus packages.
 
 Jerome
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos 1.2 archivers

[Dimitris Zilaskos]

Hi,

Thank you for the advice. I tried FDIMPLES, seem to show everything
installed, but for some reason p7zip is missing from its list.

Best regards,

Dimitris

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:25 AM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:

> If you run the installer in advanced mode, you can add them at
> installation by using detailed package selection.
>
> You can switch the installer into Advanced mode at any point it is waiting
> on user input. For example, the installer runs in Normal mode when you
> boot. You continue through all the prompts until you reach the "BASE or
> ALL/FULL" package selection. Press CTRL+C, then select "Switch to Advanced
> mode" it will then return you back to the package set selection but now
> "Detailed selections" will be available.
>
> If you run the installer from the command prompt, you can start it in
> advanced mode by using "SETUP adv"
>
> There are many things the installer does (or tries to do) automatically in
> Normal mode. But in Advanced mode, nearly all of those decisions are left
> to the user.
>
> Also, if you use FDIMPLES (installed with FULL/ALL), you can browse
> through and select packages to be installed. Similar to using some Linux
> package browsing systems like Yast. FDIMPLES does not do networking at
> present. So, you will need to have you CD inserted.
>
> Jerome
>
> On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Dimitris Zilaskos 
> wrote:
>
> Ok thanks. Would be awesome to have an option to get them installed.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dimitris
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> > On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Dimitris Zilaskos 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I did a full freedos 1.2 installation but not all archivers were
>> installed. While I got them from the CD eventually from the ARCHIVERS
>> directory I was wondering if that is supposed to happen.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Dimitris
>>
>> Yes, for now.
>>
>> There is roughly 400mb in about 100 packages that are included on the 1.2
>> cd and large USB stick versions that are included but not installed. At
>> present they are considered extra/bonus packages.
>>
>> Jerome
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos 1.2 archivers

[Jerome Shidel]

If you run the installer in advanced mode, you can add them at installation by 
using detailed package selection.

You can switch the installer into Advanced mode at any point it is waiting on 
user input. For example, the installer runs in Normal mode when you boot. You 
continue through all the prompts until you reach the "BASE or ALL/FULL" package 
selection. Press CTRL+C, then select "Switch to Advanced mode" it will then 
return you back to the package set selection but now "Detailed selections" will 
be available. 

If you run the installer from the command prompt, you can start it in advanced 
mode by using "SETUP adv"

There are many things the installer does (or tries to do) automatically in 
Normal mode. But in Advanced mode, nearly all of those decisions are left to 
the user.

Also, if you use FDIMPLES (installed with FULL/ALL), you can browse through and 
select packages to be installed. Similar to using some Linux package browsing 
systems like Yast. FDIMPLES does not do networking at present. So, you will 
need to have you CD inserted. 

Jerome

> On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Dimitris Zilaskos  wrote:
> 
> Ok thanks. Would be awesome to have an option to get them installed.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dimitris
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> > On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Dimitris Zilaskos  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I did a full freedos 1.2 installation but not all archivers were 
>> > installed. While I got them from the CD eventually from the ARCHIVERS 
>> > directory I was wondering if that is supposed to happen.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Dimitris
>> 
>> Yes, for now.
>> 
>> There is roughly 400mb in about 100 packages that are included on the 1.2 cd 
>> and large USB stick versions that are included but not installed. At present 
>> they are considered extra/bonus packages.
>> 
>> Jerome
>> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos 1.2 archivers

[Dimitris Zilaskos]

Ok thanks. Would be awesome to have an option to get them installed.

Cheers,

Dimitris

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> > On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Dimitris Zilaskos 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I did a full freedos 1.2 installation but not all archivers were
> installed. While I got them from the CD eventually from the ARCHIVERS
> directory I was wondering if that is supposed to happen.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Dimitris
>
> Yes, for now.
>
> There is roughly 400mb in about 100 packages that are included on the 1.2
> cd and large USB stick versions that are included but not installed. At
> present they are considered extra/bonus packages.
>
> Jerome
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos 1.2 archivers

[Jerome Shidel]

Hello,

> On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Dimitris Zilaskos  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I did a full freedos 1.2 installation but not all archivers were installed. 
> While I got them from the CD eventually from the ARCHIVERS directory I was 
> wondering if that is supposed to happen.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Dimitris

Yes, for now.

There is roughly 400mb in about 100 packages that are included on the 1.2 cd 
and large USB stick versions that are included but not installed. At present 
they are considered extra/bonus packages.

Jerome

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[Freedos-user] freedos 1.2 archivers

[Dimitris Zilaskos]

Hi,

I did a full freedos 1.2 installation but not all archivers were installed.
While I got them from the CD eventually from the ARCHIVERS directory I was
wondering if that is supposed to happen.

Best regards,

Dimitris
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