Re: [Freedos-user] freedos update and 4dos
Me too. Aitor 2008/1/18, Blair Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am with Tom > > On 1/16/08, Tom Ehlert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> 1) 4DOS in FreeDOS 1.1: Will it - the package - have the structure > > >> of directory as the other programs? Or not? (freecom is in the > > >> root-directory...) > > > > > You are right - FreeCOM should be moved to the BIN directory. > > > At the moment, a FreeCOM in your own selected language is made > > > (by concatenating two binary blobs) during install, which is > > > then allowed to replace the original FreeCOM from the package. > > > Both original and localized FreeCOM should be put into BIN. > > > > wrong. command.com should stay at the root directory - for the simple > > reason that the kernel expects it (by default there), and otherwise > > F5 won't work. BTW: command.com has been there for about 20 years, no > > reason to change that. > > > > > > >> 5) And...as always: I vote for using 4DOS as main command- > > >> interpreter and freecom as optional. ;-) > > > > > I vote AGAINST this. > > me too. you *are* able to use any command interpreter you like, but > > *default* should be command.com > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > - > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > -- > Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change > color and fall from the trees. > David Letterman (1947 - ) > > See ya > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos update and 4dos
I am with Tom On 1/16/08, Tom Ehlert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 1) 4DOS in FreeDOS 1.1: Will it - the package - have the structure > >> of directory as the other programs? Or not? (freecom is in the > >> root-directory...) > > > You are right - FreeCOM should be moved to the BIN directory. > > At the moment, a FreeCOM in your own selected language is made > > (by concatenating two binary blobs) during install, which is > > then allowed to replace the original FreeCOM from the package. > > Both original and localized FreeCOM should be put into BIN. > > wrong. command.com should stay at the root directory - for the simple > reason that the kernel expects it (by default there), and otherwise > F5 won't work. BTW: command.com has been there for about 20 years, no > reason to change that. > > > >> 5) And...as always: I vote for using 4DOS as main command- > >> interpreter and freecom as optional. ;-) > > > I vote AGAINST this. > me too. you *are* able to use any command interpreter you like, but > *default* should be command.com > > Tom > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos update and 4dos
>> 1) 4DOS in FreeDOS 1.1: Will it - the package - have the structure >> of directory as the other programs? Or not? (freecom is in the >> root-directory...) > You are right - FreeCOM should be moved to the BIN directory. > At the moment, a FreeCOM in your own selected language is made > (by concatenating two binary blobs) during install, which is > then allowed to replace the original FreeCOM from the package. > Both original and localized FreeCOM should be put into BIN. wrong. command.com should stay at the root directory - for the simple reason that the kernel expects it (by default there), and otherwise F5 won't work. BTW: command.com has been there for about 20 years, no reason to change that. >> 5) And...as always: I vote for using 4DOS as main command- >> interpreter and freecom as optional. ;-) > I vote AGAINST this. me too. you *are* able to use any command interpreter you like, but *default* should be command.com Tom - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos update and 4dos
Hi Flox, > 1) 4DOS in FreeDOS 1.1: Will it - the package - have the structure > of directory as the other programs? Or not? (freecom is in the > root-directory...) You are right - FreeCOM should be moved to the BIN directory. At the moment, a FreeCOM in your own selected language is made (by concatenating two binary blobs) during install, which is then allowed to replace the original FreeCOM from the package. Both original and localized FreeCOM should be put into BIN. > *) In both cases it should be available via freedos's new update. > It has so _many_ features that it is important for FreeDOS 1.1. I agree - but it should NOT be the default COMSPEC. > *) And - maybe the configuration should change: Win97LFN=yes > if for using with DOSLFN I assume you mean Win98LFN? If this is a config option of 4DOS, well, sure, enable it. I guess it will automatically ignore LFN as long as DOSLFN is not loaded anyway :-). > 4) Will it be possible, that FreeDOS's update can start a specific > file (+parameters) after unzipping a package? I ask, porque that > would make it possible to start installation-files. (for example > an installation-file which configure 4DOS after unzipping). This was already possible with FreeDOS 1.0 FDPKG and TEXTINST as far as I remember. Contact Blair if you want to know which file name you have to use for such automatic batch files and how they should behave. > 5) And...as always: I vote for using 4DOS as main command- > interpreter and freecom as optional. ;-) I vote AGAINST this. While 4DOS is very fancy, it is not very similar to MS COMMAND.COM - and 4DOS uses more resources. You could put a 4DOS COMSPEC into config sys and comment it out, so people will see the hint each time when they edit config sys. Or you could even add a config sys menu option for 4DOS :-). > *) Btw: I would find it usefull to install DOSLFN as default. > DOSLFN + 4DOS are working smoothly for me... Actually I almost NEVER load DOSLFN, because it eats too much RAM and because I have no long-named files anyway. I basically only load it when I run MPXPLAY, and I only run MPXPLAY at the rare moments when it is acceptable to play only music without being able to do anything else with the PC at the same time. I usually prefer to use a small (40g) hardware MP3 player when I "only want to listen to mp3", but the hardware player cannot do OGG... ;-). Of course it would be an idea to have a DRDOS style DLL or some JEMM386 style J-something which loads DOSLFN outside DOS space. Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] freedos update and 4dos
Hi, I have some questions: 1) 4DOS in FreeDOS 1.1: Will it - the package - have the structure of directory as the other programs? Or not? (freecom is in the root-directory...) *) In both cases it should be available via freedos's new update. It has so _many_ features that it is important for FreeDOS 1.1. *) And - maybe the configuration should change. F.E. Win97LFN=yes if for using with DOSLFN 4) Will it be possible, that FreeDOS's update can start a specific file (+parameters) after unzipping a package? I ask, porque that would make it possible to start installation-files. (f.e. a installation-file which configure 4DOS after unzipping). 5) And...as always: I vote for using 4DOS as main command-interpreter and freecom as optional. ;-) *) Btw: I would find it usefull to install DOSLFN as default. DOSLFN + 4DOS are working smoothly for me... If all questions will be answerd, maybe I will find time to make a 4DOS package for FreeDOS. Hasta luego Flo -- Club Dr-DOS Wiki http//www.drdos.org private page http://www.flox.at.tf - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
