Re: [Freedos-user] help - how to make freedos bootable disk
At 12:22 AM 12/28/2005 +1100, John Mills wrote: Can I run EMM386 2.08 with my Beta9sr1 installed? Or should I download the Beta9SR2 iso, and download latest EMM386 separately ? Any official FreeDOS build which isn't ancient should run with latest EMM386 just fine. Most unofficial ones, too. I guess I need to be on an announce list... Both the user and devel lists are posted when a new EMM386 is available. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] help - how to make freedos bootable disk
Thanks again, Michael.
Can I run EMM386 2.08 with my Beta9sr1 installed?
Or should I download the Beta9SR2 iso, and download latest EMM386 separately
?
I guess I need to be on an announce list...
Thanks
John Mills
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> At 12:44 AM 12/25/2005 +1100, John Mills wrote:
>
> >Thanks for info. I'm out of my depth here.
> >Apologies to anyone misled by my suggestion.
> >My EMM386 is version 1.13.
>
> Current EMM386 version is 2.08. You're one major release, many minor
> revisions, and a number of recommended updates behind.
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Re: [Freedos-user] help - how to make freedos bootable disk
At 12:44 AM 12/25/2005 +1100, John Mills wrote: Thanks for info. I'm out of my depth here. Apologies to anyone misled by my suggestion. My EMM386 is version 1.13. Current EMM386 version is 2.08. You're one major release, many minor revisions, and a number of recommended updates behind. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] help - how to make freedos bootable disk
Michael
Thanks for info. I'm out of my depth here.
Apologies to anyone misled by my suggestion.
My EMM386 is version 1.13.
When I load FreeDOS with option 1 of Config.sys
"Load FreeDOS with maximum RAM free, using EMM386"
- my program (a 682kB djgpp EXE, an awkward size) pages out as soon as the
graphic changes.
When I load FreeDOS with option 3, it doesn't.
The program is memory-intensive (texture bitmaps in memory).
Is there something I can do to optimise the way I use memory ? Is it better
to do that than to rely on CWSDPMI ?
Thanks
John Mills
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> At 12:53 PM 12/24/2005 +1100, John Mills wrote:
> >alan
> >Don't know if your program uses DPMI, but some out of memory problems can
be
> >solved by disabling memory drivers e.g. EMM386/HIMEM, and letting DPMI
take
> >over extended memory.
>
> Nothing to do with a modern, e.g. FreeDOS version, HIMEM or EMM386. If
> your program pages out with HIMEM or EMM386, you either aren't using a
> recent version or you have another problem unrelated to the listed URL.
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Re: [Freedos-user] help - how to make freedos bootable disk
At 12:53 PM 12/24/2005 +1100, John Mills wrote: alan Don't know if your program uses DPMI, but some out of memory problems can be solved by disabling memory drivers e.g. EMM386/HIMEM, and letting DPMI take over extended memory. Nothing to do with a modern, e.g. FreeDOS version, HIMEM or EMM386. If your program pages out with HIMEM or EMM386, you either aren't using a recent version or you have another problem unrelated to the listed URL. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] help - how to make freedos bootable disk
alan
Don't know if your program uses DPMI, but some out of memory problems can be
solved by disabling memory drivers e.g. EMM386/HIMEM, and letting DPMI take
over extended memory.
This worked for my DJGPP program which uses DPMI..
http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/v2faq/faq15_7.html
When I first ran it, it would page out every time something moved on screen.
After I disabled memory drivers, it's fine.
John Mills
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Hi Johnson,
Thanks. I managed to make the boot up disk and tried it. It runs my
program but got "out of memory" problems when running DOS QB4.5 shell
command unlike the regular msdos. Any idea to overcome it? maybe have to put
ctmouse on high mem?
I booted up my old pentium with the freedos diskette. After a few times,
my win95 OS got lost. Had to reinstall Win95 again. :>)
Have not tried the CD bootup yet. shall try later.
thanks for your advice.
regards
alan
Johnson Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:04:51 + (GMT), you wrote:
Hi Alan Ho,
> When burning CD using XP I normally use the XP's own burner.
As Giorgos Kostopoulos suggested, BURNATONCE is a good choice for ISO,
and it's free for home user.
If you ONLY want a bootable FreeDOS floppy, you can try ODIN 0.6 or my
"USB Driver Disk", but since they're 1 disk floppy, you have to
download other FreeDOS utilities by yourself.
ODIN 0.6:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1disk/
odin060
USB Driver Disk:
http://johnson.tmfc.net/freedos
Click "USB Driver Disk".
Rgds,
Johnson.
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Re: [Freedos-user] help - how to make freedos bootable disk
Hi Johnson, Thanks. I managed to make the boot up disk and tried it. It runs my program but got "out of memory" problems when running DOS QB4.5 shell command unlike the regular msdos. Any idea to overcome it? maybe have to put ctmouse on high mem? I booted up my old pentium with the freedos diskette. After a few times, my win95 OS got lost. Had to reinstall Win95 again. :>) Have not tried the CD bootup yet. shall try later. thanks for your advice. regards alan Johnson Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:04:51 + (GMT), you wrote:Hi Alan Ho,> When burning CD using XP I normally use the XP's own burner.As Giorgos Kostopoulos suggested, BURNATONCE is a good choice for ISO,and it's free for home user.If you ONLY want a bootable FreeDOS floppy, you can try ODIN 0.6 or my"USB Driver Disk", but since they're 1 disk floppy, you have todownload other FreeDOS utilities by yourself.ODIN 0.6:http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1disk/odin060USB Driver Disk:http://johnson.tmfc.net/freedosClick "USB Driver Disk".Rgds,Johnson.---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makessearching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click___Freedos-user mailing listFreedos-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Freedos-user] help - how to make freedos bootable disk
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:04:51 + (GMT), you wrote: Hi Alan Ho, > When burning CD using XP I normally use the XP's own burner. As Giorgos Kostopoulos suggested, BURNATONCE is a good choice for ISO, and it's free for home user. If you ONLY want a bootable FreeDOS floppy, you can try ODIN 0.6 or my "USB Driver Disk", but since they're 1 disk floppy, you have to download other FreeDOS utilities by yourself. ODIN 0.6: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1disk/odin060 USB Driver Disk: http://johnson.tmfc.net/freedos Click "USB Driver Disk". Rgds, Johnson. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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hi, Thank you for your advice. shall try it. Managed to get the diskette boot disk working. regards alan Palatinus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am using win98Se and copied and burned to> diskette and CD. The latter using Nero - copy and> paste. Guess it is wrong.yes... ISOs, are a batch of files, ready to berecorded as a cd, not IN a cd. The result will be a cdwith the files the iso contains (as well as otherdetails)In Nero, choose 'record image files in disk' (orsomething similar). It will then prompt you to pointto the iso file you want to burn. Choose it, and youare ready___ ×ñçóéìïðïé åßôå Yahoo!; ÂáñåèÞêáôå ôá åíï÷ëçôéêÜ ìçíýìáôá (spam); Ôï Yahoo! Mail äéáèÝôåé ôçí êáëýôåñç äõíáôÞ ðñïóôáóßá êáôÜ ôùí åíï÷ëçôéêþí ìçíõìÜôùí http://login.yahoo.com/config/mail?.intl=gr ---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makessearching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click___Freedos-user mailing listFreedos-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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Hi Alan: Nero has an option to burn an ISO image directly to CD. I don't have Nero, but according to this page: http://www.wizardskeep.org/mainhall/tutor/neroiso.html there is a "Burn Image..." under "File". That's what you want to use. It wants the ISO file (fdbootcd.iso). Try that and you should get a bootable CD. Glad I could help! Mark ho kok foo wrote: hi Mark, Thank you very much for your advice. I am using win98Se and copied and burned to diskette and CD. The latter using Nero - copy and paste. Guess it is wrong. Yes both as you described contained the individual files. When burning CD using XP I normally use the XP's own burner. I will try as you described. Thanks again regards alan Mark Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Alan: When you do a "dir" on the CD or floppy disk (or an ls in Linux or using Windows Explorer), do you see a single file (fdbootcd.iso or freedos_beta9.dsk)? If so, then you created the floppy disk wrong or burned the CD wrong. To burn a bootable CD, if you are using WindowsXP, you can download the "PowerToy" to burn the cd: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm Make sure to get the correct version. Remember, you should NOT see the file fdbootcd.iso on the CD! To create a bootable floppy disk, you can use the Windows program RawWritewin: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite.htm. It's pretty intuitive. You just give it the image file name and the destination floppy drive name. Are you using Windows or a different operating system to create the floppy/burn the CD? Mark ho kok foo wrote: hi, i have downloaded both fdbootcd.iso and frredos_beta9.dsk. How do i make bootable cd or disk from these files? tried copying freedos_beta9.dsk to Diskette and burning fdbootcd.iso to CD. Both not bootable. Where have i gone wrong? pls help. regards alan Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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> I am using win98Se and copied and burned to > diskette and CD. The latter using Nero - copy and > paste. Guess it is wrong. yes... ISOs, are a batch of files, ready to be recorded as a cd, not IN a cd. The result will be a cd with the files the iso contains (as well as other details) In Nero, choose 'record image files in disk' (or something similar). It will then prompt you to point to the iso file you want to burn. Choose it, and you are ready ___ Χρησιμοποιείτε Yahoo!; Βαρεθήκατε τα ενοχλητικά μηνύματα (spam); Το Yahoo! Mail διαθέτει την καλύτερη δυνατή προστασία κατά των ενοχλητικών μηνυμάτων http://login.yahoo.com/config/mail?.intl=gr --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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hi Mark, Thank you very much for your advice. I am using win98Se and copied and burned to diskette and CD. The latter using Nero - copy and paste. Guess it is wrong. Yes both as you described contained the individual files. When burning CD using XP I normally use the XP's own burner. I will try as you described. Thanks again regards alan Mark Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Alan:When you do a "dir" on the CD or floppy disk (or an ls in Linux orusing Windows Explorer), do you see a single file (fdbootcd.iso orfreedos_beta9.dsk)? If so, then you created the floppy disk wrongor burned t he CD wrong.To burn a bootable CD, if you are using WindowsXP, you can downloadthe "PowerToy" to burn the cd:http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htmMake sure to get the correct version. Remember, you should NOTsee the file fdbootcd.iso on the CD!To create a bootable floppy disk, you can use the Windows programRawWritewin: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite.htm.It's pretty intuitive. You just give it the image file name andthe destination floppy drive name.Are you using Windows or a different operating system to create thefloppy/burn the CD?Markho kok foo wrote:> hi,> > i have downloaded both fdbootcd.iso and frredos_beta9.dsk. How do i make bootable cd or disk from these files?> > tried copying freedos_beta9.dsk to Diskette and burning fdbootcd.iso to CD.> Both not bootable. Where have i gone wrong?> > pls help.> > regards> alan> > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makessearching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click___Freedos-user mailing listFreedos-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Freedos-user] help - how to make freedos bootable disk
Hi Alan: When you do a "dir" on the CD or floppy disk (or an ls in Linux or using Windows Explorer), do you see a single file (fdbootcd.iso or freedos_beta9.dsk)? If so, then you created the floppy disk wrong or burned the CD wrong. To burn a bootable CD, if you are using WindowsXP, you can download the "PowerToy" to burn the cd: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm Make sure to get the correct version. Remember, you should NOT see the file fdbootcd.iso on the CD! To create a bootable floppy disk, you can use the Windows program RawWritewin: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite.htm. It's pretty intuitive. You just give it the image file name and the destination floppy drive name. Are you using Windows or a different operating system to create the floppy/burn the CD? Mark ho kok foo wrote: hi, i have downloaded both fdbootcd.iso and frredos_beta9.dsk. How do i make bootable cd or disk from these files? tried copying freedos_beta9.dsk to Diskette and burning fdbootcd.iso to CD. Both not bootable. Where have i gone wrong? pls help. regards alan Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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