Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Am 12.01.2011 23:48, schrieb Rugxulo: I do know that VirtualBox has some issues with DOS (e.g. no SB support), so normally I don't use DOS there. Not sure if they fixed some of them (EMM386 conflict) though one of the recent ones claims to. Probably unchecking VT-X in the config helps but is slower. Yes, Virtualbox 3.2.6 did crash if an Expanded Memory Manager was loaded. I wrote a bug report about that last summer [1]. Today I had time to try FreeDOS with the new Virtualbox 4.0.0 and the bug is FIXED. So this is good news! :-) I just played around with the installation I did last summer and networking seems to work fine from within Virtualbox. At least ping and surfing with Arachne worked. The packet driver needed for Virtualbox is pcntpk.com from the package amdpd.zip [2]. For file exchange with my host system (Ubuntu 10.04) I run the FTP server ftpsrv32 from the watt32 suite [3] in the Freedos guest and connect from my host with Filezilla. Of course you can also use MS-Client, but most times I am too lazy to do that. The new ftpsrv app from mTCP works, but at least on my system seems to have problems with showing correct DOS paths. For instance it shows c:\ as c:/\. So f.i. creating new directories in filezilla doesn't work without manual correction. regards Uli [1] http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/3365 [2] http://www.crynwr.com/drivers/amdpd.zip [3] http://www.filegate.net/utiln/utilnet/wt32apps.zip -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
On 1/15/2011 10:23 AM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: The new ftpsrv app from mTCP works, but at least on my system seems to have problems with showing correct DOS paths. For instance it shows c:\ as c:/\. So f.i. creating new directories in filezilla doesn't work without manual correction. regards Uli That's a Filezilla thing - Filezilla is too 'smart' to honor what my server is returning for the current working directory, and it's trying to fix the directory delimiters. If you are in a sandbox it works fine. If you are on a command line client it is fine too .. it's just Filezilla. Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Am 15.01.2011 18:10, schrieb Michael B. Brutman: On 1/15/2011 10:23 AM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: The new ftpsrv app from mTCP works, but at least on my system seems to have problems with showing correct DOS paths. For instance it shows c:\ as c:/\. So f.i. creating new directories in filezilla doesn't work without manual correction. That's a Filezilla thing - Filezilla is too 'smart' to honor what my server is returning for the current working directory, and it's trying to fix the directory delimiters. Unfortunately mTCP ftpsrv doesn't seem to work correctly with any graphical FTP clients I tried. In Filezilla file uploads are answered with a Error 550 Bad path. The FireFTP plugin for Firefox connects with the same error message: 550 /C:: Bad path And when I try to upload a file I also get the 550 message. gFTP didn't give me any directory listings at all. Anyway, it is really great to have a new FTP-Server for DOS to experiment with. I already tried ftpsrv32, NOS/EZ-NOS, quikserv, Sockets ftpd and SwsSock ftpd and didn't really expect to see another one. :-) Thanks! regards Uli -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Once again, all of these clients are trying to be 'too clever' about the path names ... Now that you have me thinking about it, a work around would be to just forget about drive letters and make it look like a normal, Unix hierarchical filesystem. (This is the way the sandbox mode works.) To change a drive letter one would have to do a 'site' type of command, or change to a pseudo-directory that actually changes the drive letter. For now, file bug reports against the clients that are too smart for their own good. None of the command line clients (including lftp) have this problem. Regards, Mike On 1/15/2011 4:33 PM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: Am 15.01.2011 18:10, schrieb Michael B. Brutman: On 1/15/2011 10:23 AM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: The new ftpsrv app from mTCP works, but at least on my system seems to have problems with showing correct DOS paths. For instance it shows c:\ as c:/\. So f.i. creating new directories in filezilla doesn't work without manual correction. That's a Filezilla thing - Filezilla is too 'smart' to honor what my server is returning for the current working directory, and it's trying to fix the directory delimiters. Unfortunately mTCP ftpsrv doesn't seem to work correctly with any graphical FTP clients I tried. In Filezilla file uploads are answered with a Error 550 Bad path. The FireFTP plugin for Firefox connects with the same error message: 550 /C:: Bad path And when I try to upload a file I also get the 550 message. gFTP didn't give me any directory listings at all. Anyway, it is really great to have a new FTP-Server for DOS to experiment with. I already tried ftpsrv32, NOS/EZ-NOS, quikserv, Sockets ftpd and SwsSock ftpd and didn't really expect to see another one. :-) Thanks! regards Uli -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Hi again, On 1/13/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: I am trying to install freedos with qemu, but I am coming across an error when I go to run the install? The error is saying not enough disk space very early on in the install? I have used fdisk to partition my drive at like a 100mb A full install probably needs much more than that, but I don't know exactly. For sure you can manually install a much smaller amount, but I'm not sure how customizable the old installer is. (Jim Hall's already been rewriting it lately.) Another error I have come across is if I try to format the drive it fails saying something like drive sectors not 1, 4 , 6, 16, 32 etc but 0.0 kb I don't know the exact error it returns with result 4. And I don't know if these are related Blech, sounds like a stinkin' QEMU bug, not much we can do about that. :-/ What QEMU version are you testing? Hopefully latest (0.13.0, apparently) works better, but newer ones sadly don't support fat:/ (which was quite convenient in oldie-but-goodie 0.9.0). Oh well, just try VirtualBox or BOCHS if it doesn't work. -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Hi! I have used fdisk to partition my drive at like a 100mb A full install probably needs much more than that... http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Install#Known_problems tells about this: XHARBOUR (a free CLIPPER clone, 8 MB) needs the OWATCOM package: That package needs at least 30 MB disk space. Other large packages are FPASCAL (free Pascal, 31 MB), KRAPTOR (11 MB), Image MAGICK (8 MB), free DOOM (21 MB), and VIM (consists of several packages, ca 20 MB). Without those packages, installing all other (more than 200) packages of the FULLCD needs less than 100 MB disk space. For sure you can manually install a much smaller amount, but I'm not sure how customizable the old installer is. In the old installer, you can select all packages for all categories manually, but of course if you want to do that, you have to toggle lots of checkboxes. Default is as far as I remember to install whole categories. (Jim Hall's already been rewriting it lately.) The new installer is less interactive, I think. People have 100s of MB free on every USB stick or SD card... However, you are of course welcome to do a BASE install and then use FDPKG to install a few selected non-BASE packages manually later. Actually you can install most of the packages simply by unzipping them with any unzip tool into your dos directory (e.g. C:\FDOS or FREEDOS) and you can download and copy them in any way you like. Another error I have come across is if I try to format the drive it fails saying something like drive sectors not 1, 4 , 6, 16, 32 etc but 0.0 kb I don't know the exact error it returns with result 4. And I don't know if these are related Looking in the FreeDOS FORMAT source code, you may mean: FATAL: Cluster size not 0.5, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 or 64k but... When you use FORMAT /D (debug mode) it will return error 59 which is more fine-grained than error 4, and show more info. It is possible that you needed to reboot after fdisk and before formatting. Another typical problem could be that your drive is not a real sector based drive at all. Yet at least in DOSEMU, FORMAT would notice that on time and show a more useful error message than just about clusters. If you try to FORMAT in a non-DOS operating system and the target drive is not FAT but e.g. NTFS, similar confusion could occur. If you can already access a drive, you should not format it again anyway. In particular, if your DOS FAT drive will be on a multi boot system, you can let existing other operating systems format the drive to FAT in a safer way and then just let DOS install to that prepared drive. You should have a look at the FORMAT /D output if you want to try using FORMAT again and want to find out what failed. Then you can also report more details about the problem. Good luck! Eric :-) -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
I am using I GUI program of qemu and when I create my drive that I boot freedos from I have options for the hard disk I have chosen qcow, my other options are no hard disk, new 10mb compressed disk image, new 100mb compressed disk image, new 4gb compressed disk image, new 4gb raw disk image(for windows), create other disk image, choose other disk image And when I boot from fdfullcd.iso and run fdisk to create a partition I choose the max. But when I go to install I get an error on the second screen where there are files that can be checked or unchecked the error is: ERROR! Not enough disk space for package. I restart and don't install but choose to run freedos from the CDROM to run fdisk to try and figure out what is wrong? And it asks me if I want to use large disk support, I say yes. I have an option under fdisk 5. Change current fixed disk drive Which I think is my problem? When I choose 5. It says there are 2 fixed disk drives one has 100mb and 100mb free, but usage is 0% The other one says 1mb nothing under free and 100% usage Then underneath these it says c: 1 Which I don't know if the 1 refers to mb or fixed disk 1 But shouldn't 100mb be enough to install freedos? I have tried to install this in qemu GUI program several times. And when I initially run fdisk to partition the drive I use the max available? Is it possible that my computer is trying to install to a fixed disk 2? I have tried to use option 5. Under fdisk to switch to fixed disk 1 which is like 100mb, I am stuck, all the tutorials I have read don't deal with this, so I know something isn't right but don't know how to fix it? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Hi! I have used fdisk to partition my drive at like a 100mb A full install probably needs much more than that... http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Install#Known_problems tells about this: XHARBOUR (a free CLIPPER clone, 8 MB) needs the OWATCOM package: That package needs at least 30 MB disk space. Other large packages are FPASCAL (free Pascal, 31 MB), KRAPTOR (11 MB), Image MAGICK (8 MB), free DOOM (21 MB), and VIM (consists of several packages, ca 20 MB). Without those packages, installing all other (more than 200) packages of the FULLCD needs less than 100 MB disk space. For sure you can manually install a much smaller amount, but I'm not sure how customizable the old installer is. In the old installer, you can select all packages for all categories manually, but of course if you want to do that, you have to toggle lots of checkboxes. Default is as far as I remember to install whole categories. (Jim Hall's already been rewriting it lately.) The new installer is less interactive, I think. People have 100s of MB free on every USB stick or SD card... However, you are of course welcome to do a BASE install and then use FDPKG to install a few selected non-BASE packages manually later. Actually you can install most of the packages simply by unzipping them with any unzip tool into your dos directory (e.g. C:\FDOS or FREEDOS) and you can download and copy them in any way you like. Another error I have come across is if I try to format the drive it fails saying something like drive sectors not 1, 4 , 6, 16, 32 etc but 0.0 kb I don't know the exact error it returns with result 4. And I don't know if these are related Looking in the FreeDOS FORMAT source code, you may mean: FATAL: Cluster size not 0.5, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 or 64k but... When you use FORMAT /D (debug mode) it will return error 59 which is more fine-grained than error 4, and show more info. It is possible that you needed to reboot after fdisk and before formatting. Another typical problem could be that your drive is not a real sector based drive at all. Yet at least in DOSEMU, FORMAT would notice that on time and show a more useful error message than just about clusters. If you try to FORMAT in a non-DOS operating system and the target drive is not FAT but e.g. NTFS, similar confusion could occur. If you can already access a drive, you should not format it again anyway. In particular, if your DOS FAT drive will be on a multi boot system, you can let existing other operating systems format the drive to FAT in a safer way and then just let DOS install to that prepared drive. You should have a look at the FORMAT /D output if you want to try using FORMAT again and want to find out what failed. Then you can also report more details about the problem. Good luck! Eric :-) -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing.
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Hi again, On 1/14/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: I am using I GUI program of qemu and when I create my drive that I boot freedos from I have options for the hard disk I have chosen qcow, Try creating a raw disk image instead of qcow and trying to work with that. IIRC, that might help, but I could be wrong. But shouldn't 100mb be enough to install freedos? I have tried to install this in qemu GUI program several times. And when I initially run fdisk to partition the drive I use the max available? As mentioned, 100 MB is more than enough for BASE, but to add all the extras (VIM, FreeDoom, FPC), you need more. Don't forget that FreeDOS' kernel and shell (and HIMEMX) can all fit on floppy. Actually, since DOS is so lean and mean, you can fit a lot on a floppy. :-) But I'm guessing you want more than just the raw basics. :-/ If none of this helps, try using either a newer QEMU (0.13.0 is latest) or go back to 0.9.0, but unfortunately, all emulators have bugs, so nothing's perfect. :-/ -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Hi, On 1/13/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: One of my goals is to set up dhcp, cause I didn't during the install. I would like to fool around with lynx within in freedos. It might be easier to use a native Mac compile of Lynx. I know that's probably not what you want to hear, but it's true. I have some older software like word perfect, some games etc. That I wanted to install. Games are best in DOSBox, esp. when you need SoundBlaster support, which modern soundcards don't support natively anymore. Word Perfect probably runs there too, but again, it's probably easier to just use a native build of something else (AbiWord, OpenOffice, KOffice). :-/ I really want to be able to type a: at a dos prompt and access my floppy drive, right now I can't burn a cd because my cd/DVD drive isn't working, I am going to fix it. You can (try to) boot from USB, probably, but that still won't help if you don't have some kind of BIOS. See http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ . I know that I got dosbox to recognize my floppy drive? DOSBox should recognize it since it just uses the host OS to access everything. I want to set up mTCP which I got to set up dhcp, and I have a folder on my Mac but don't know how to get it into freedos? Mac OS X Terminal - man mount ... You should be able to mount a FAT partition from within Mac OS X (or FreeBSD). Also try man mtools just in case it's installed. I have also copied it to a floppy, but freedos isn't recognizing my floppy drive? Did you install BootCamp? Can you? I guess one thing I would like to be able to do is put software into freedos from my Mac. I have used disk utility to partition my hard drive and I set up some fat space. I was originally gonna use it for freedos but then I got virtualbox. BOCHS, QEMU, and VirtualBox have all been known to emulate FreeDOS to a reasonable degree (though you need some kind of floppy disk or CD image). It's probably your best bet while on a Mac outside of just trying Linux + DOSEMU. -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
I am trying to install freedos with qemu, but I am coming across an error when I go to run the install? The error is saying not enough disk space very early on in the install? I have used fdisk to partition my drive at like a 100mb Another error I have come across is if I try to format the drive it fails saying something like drive sectors not 1, 4 , 6, 16, 32 etc but 0.0 kb I don't know the exact error it returns with result 4. And I don't know if these are related Sent from my iPhone On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:01 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 1/13/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: One of my goals is to set up dhcp, cause I didn't during the install. I would like to fool around with lynx within in freedos. It might be easier to use a native Mac compile of Lynx. I know that's probably not what you want to hear, but it's true. I have some older software like word perfect, some games etc. That I wanted to install. Games are best in DOSBox, esp. when you need SoundBlaster support, which modern soundcards don't support natively anymore. Word Perfect probably runs there too, but again, it's probably easier to just use a native build of something else (AbiWord, OpenOffice, KOffice). :-/ I really want to be able to type a: at a dos prompt and access my floppy drive, right now I can't burn a cd because my cd/DVD drive isn't working, I am going to fix it. You can (try to) boot from USB, probably, but that still won't help if you don't have some kind of BIOS. See http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ . I know that I got dosbox to recognize my floppy drive? DOSBox should recognize it since it just uses the host OS to access everything. I want to set up mTCP which I got to set up dhcp, and I have a folder on my Mac but don't know how to get it into freedos? Mac OS X Terminal - man mount ... You should be able to mount a FAT partition from within Mac OS X (or FreeBSD). Also try man mtools just in case it's installed. I have also copied it to a floppy, but freedos isn't recognizing my floppy drive? Did you install BootCamp? Can you? I guess one thing I would like to be able to do is put software into freedos from my Mac. I have used disk utility to partition my hard drive and I set up some fat space. I was originally gonna use it for freedos but then I got virtualbox. BOCHS, QEMU, and VirtualBox have all been known to emulate FreeDOS to a reasonable degree (though you need some kind of floppy disk or CD image). It's probably your best bet while on a Mac outside of just trying Linux + DOSEMU. -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Hi James, Uli, Rugxulo, happy new year everybody :-) do I understand correctly that you want to copy from MacOS to FreeDOS but both run on the same hardware, DOS running in VirtualBox? As Mac understands FAT, it might help to copy the files to any FAT drive, eg USB stick, USB harddisk or floppy, and then connect that to your VirtualBox (probably configuration thing which needs restarting the DOS)... I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I want to copy into freedos. I copied the folder to an external USB floppy on my laptop. But freedos isn't recognizing it. I was thinking that this might be a virtualbox issue rather than freedos. Note that for normal PC BIOSes you often get USB drives recognized by having them connected before DOS boots... In that case, DOS does not need a driver as the BIOS is doing the work. In virtualbox, support might differ and if you try using DOS USB drivers there, virtualbox will have to simulate USB hardware/chipset connected to your actual USB drive, which might complicate things. There was some page by Uli Hansen about the use of various network stuff with DOS, MS network shares via MSCLIENT included as far as I remember. Again, such stuff is harder in a virtual PC than in a real PC. In particular real PCI network cards are easy. Old ISA cards and external USB cards are harder and wireless is even very hard. PCIe should be okay :-) Is there a way to have freedos recognize files on my hard drive? Like can I copy files from my macs hard drive into freedos? If you run DOS in a virtual PC, this will depend on the config and abilities of that virtual PC mostly. Plus a bit on DOS drivers, if you need any at all. In DOSEMU things are usually easy, but that is only available for Linux. Not sure about BSD Unixes such as MacOS in that context. Nobody mentioned it yet, but I think the real problem is that the FD 1.0 .ISO had broken network detection. Or at least that's what I heard. I don't understand networking at all, and most of my hardware seems to always lack drivers, so I never bothered trying in FreeDOS (and have troubles even with more popular OSes, yuck). There are floppy images like NWDSK (veder.com?) which autodetect many network chipsets. I assume you could boot those in a virtual PC as well, even using virtual floppy drives. Or put them on USB stick or CD-R with the help of for example SYSLINUX / ISOLINUX / MEMDISK. Depends a lot on what you want to do whether networking is really what you want to use :-) Eric -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Hi, On 1/12/11, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: As Mac understands FAT, it might help to copy the files to any FAT drive, eg USB stick, USB harddisk or floppy, and then connect that to your VirtualBox (probably configuration thing which needs restarting the DOS)... Not sure, I think directly using USB from inside VirtualBox is experimental (read: probably buggy) and not supported in the OSE version. (Sorry to be such a pessimist.) Note that for normal PC BIOSes you often get USB drives recognized by having them connected before DOS boots... In that case, DOS does not need a driver as the BIOS is doing the work. Forgot about that, yeah it sometimes works (with bugs), but it does also mean you can't hotplug / swap at runtime. In virtualbox, support might differ and if you try using DOS USB drivers there, virtualbox will have to simulate USB hardware/chipset connected to your actual USB drive, which might complicate things. I do know that VirtualBox has some issues with DOS (e.g. no SB support), so normally I don't use DOS there. Not sure if they fixed some of them (EMM386 conflict) though one of the recent ones claims to. Probably unchecking VT-X in the config helps but is slower. There was some page by Uli Hansen about the use of various network stuff with DOS, MS network shares via MSCLIENT included as far as I remember. Right, did I accidentally say MS SHARE? I meant NET SHARE or whatever the syntax is. In DOSEMU things are usually easy, but that is only available for Linux. Not sure about BSD Unixes such as MacOS in that context. *BSD has doscmd but I haven't tried it (yet), probably very buggy and weak as it's quite old and unmaintained. I know they claim DOSBox and VirtualBox both work on BSD. There are even still others (pcxt, pcemu) untested by me. But yeah, DOSEMU is Linux only, but you can (I think?) boot Ubuntu off Macs nowadays. There are floppy images like NWDSK (veder.com?) which autodetect many network chipsets. Call me a skeptic, but things like that almost never work (for me). Others smarter than me seem to have better luck, though (e.g. BTTR crowd). P.S. The obvious question is, What application(s) are you trying to run on FreeDOS? It's easier when we know the goal to make concrete suggestions. -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Hello, One of my goals is to set up dhcp, cause I didn't during the install. I would like to fool around with lynx within in freedos. I have some older software like word perfect, some games etc. That I wanted to install. I really want to be able to type a: at a dos prompt and access my floppy drive, right now I can't burn a cd because my cd/DVD drive isn't working, I am going to fix it. I know that I got dosbox to recognize my floppy drive? I want to set up mTCP which I got to set up dhcp, and I have a folder on my Mac but don't know how to get it into freedos? I have also copied it to a floppy, but freedos isn't recognizing my floppy drive? I guess one thing I would like to be able to do is put software into freedos from my Mac. I have used disk utility to partition my hard drive and I set up some fat space. I was originally gonna use it for freedos but then I got virtualbox. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 1/12/11, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: As Mac understands FAT, it might help to copy the files to any FAT drive, eg USB stick, USB harddisk or floppy, and then connect that to your VirtualBox (probably configuration thing which needs restarting the DOS)... Not sure, I think directly using USB from inside VirtualBox is experimental (read: probably buggy) and not supported in the OSE version. (Sorry to be such a pessimist.) Note that for normal PC BIOSes you often get USB drives recognized by having them connected before DOS boots... In that case, DOS does not need a driver as the BIOS is doing the work. Forgot about that, yeah it sometimes works (with bugs), but it does also mean you can't hotplug / swap at runtime. In virtualbox, support might differ and if you try using DOS USB drivers there, virtualbox will have to simulate USB hardware/chipset connected to your actual USB drive, which might complicate things. I do know that VirtualBox has some issues with DOS (e.g. no SB support), so normally I don't use DOS there. Not sure if they fixed some of them (EMM386 conflict) though one of the recent ones claims to. Probably unchecking VT-X in the config helps but is slower. There was some page by Uli Hansen about the use of various network stuff with DOS, MS network shares via MSCLIENT included as far as I remember. Right, did I accidentally say MS SHARE? I meant NET SHARE or whatever the syntax is. In DOSEMU things are usually easy, but that is only available for Linux. Not sure about BSD Unixes such as MacOS in that context. *BSD has doscmd but I haven't tried it (yet), probably very buggy and weak as it's quite old and unmaintained. I know they claim DOSBox and VirtualBox both work on BSD. There are even still others (pcxt, pcemu) untested by me. But yeah, DOSEMU is Linux only, but you can (I think?) boot Ubuntu off Macs nowadays. There are floppy images like NWDSK (veder.com?) which autodetect many network chipsets. Call me a skeptic, but things like that almost never work (for me). Others smarter than me seem to have better luck, though (e.g. BTTR crowd). P.S. The obvious question is, What application(s) are you trying to run on FreeDOS? It's easier when we know the goal to make concrete suggestions. -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user