Re: [Freeipa-users] Heads-up: Removing self-sign CA

2013-03-28 Thread Christian Horn
Hi,

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 05:02:34PM +0100, Petr Viktorin wrote:
 
 We will soon be introducing a way to install IPA with custom
 certificates without a CA at all. When that is merged, it will no
 longer be possible to install a self-sign server.

I see that the change in functionality is in line with generic
unix principles, linux distros have already tools to create and
manage own, self signed CA's.

Yet from what I understand, this change will make all test setups 
more complicated.
One has then by oneself to deploy an own CA (i.e. with the openssl
tools) and have it sign the IPA cert.


Christian

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Re: [Freeipa-users] Heads-up: Removing self-sign CA

2013-03-28 Thread Petr Viktorin

On 03/28/2013 09:10 AM, Christian Horn wrote:

Hi,

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 05:02:34PM +0100, Petr Viktorin wrote:


We will soon be introducing a way to install IPA with custom
certificates without a CA at all. When that is merged, it will no
longer be possible to install a self-sign server.


I see that the change in functionality is in line with generic
unix principles, linux distros have already tools to create and
manage own, self signed CA's.


To clarify: this is about removing the --selfsign option to 
ipa-server-install, which installs a limited CA (for example, it doesn't 
support CA replication or cert-find).


The default Dogtag CA also uses a self-signed certificate, but it's not 
affected by this change.


The naming confusion is a small part of the reason why it's better to 
remove --selfsign.



Yet from what I understand, this change will make all test setups
more complicated.
One has then by oneself to deploy an own CA (i.e. with the openssl
tools) and have it sign the IPA cert.


Use the default Dogtag CA for test setups. It will still use a 
self-signed CA certificate by default.


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Re: [Freeipa-users] Heads-up: Removing self-sign CA

2013-03-28 Thread Christian Horn
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 09:32:36AM +0100, Petr Viktorin wrote:
 
 To clarify: this is about removing the --selfsign option to
 ipa-server-install, which installs a limited CA (for example, it
 doesn't support CA replication or cert-find).
 
 The default Dogtag CA also uses a self-signed certificate, but it's
 not affected by this change.
 
 The naming confusion is a small part of the reason why it's better
 to remove --selfsign.

Thanks, I see.

Christian

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[Freeipa-users] Heads-up: Removing self-sign CA

2013-03-26 Thread Petr Viktorin

Hello list,

FreeIPA's self-sign CA is a holdout from days where the our integration 
with a real CA wasn't that good. Also its name is confusing: the Dogtag 
CA also uses a self-signed certificate by default.
We will soon be introducing a way to install IPA with custom 
certificates without a CA at all. When that is merged, it will no longer 
be possible to install a self-sign server.


After that, the plan is to convert existing self-sign masters to CA-less 
on upgrade, and remove the self-sign code. On a CA-less master, IPA's 
cert commands will no longer be available and cert rotation will need to 
be done manually.
Documentation on how to do this (using the existing self-signed CA cert) 
will be provided.


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