Re: Mail Delivery Status Notification

2002-09-05 Thread Chad Miller

[cc listmaster]

On Thu, 2002-09-05 at 11:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 From: Postmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Mail Delivery Status Notification
 boundary=_=_NextPart_1
 Date: 5 Sep 2002 08:48:54 -0700
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

 MAIL ESSENTIALS SENDER NOTIFICATION
 
 The following message:
 
 TO:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 DATE: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 17:48:04 +0200
 Subject: Freeradius-Users digest, Vol 1 #1032 - 1 msg
 
 
 has been held for later review by the administrator by Mail Essentials for the 
following reason(s):
 
 Body contains word(s)/phrase(s) 'XX X'
 
 
 Mail essentials
 
[...]
 From: Postmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Mail Delivery Status Notification
 boundary=_=_NextPart_1
 Date: 5 Sep 2002 08:46:48 -0700
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

 MAIL ESSENTIALS SENDER NOTIFICATION
 
 The following message:
 
 TO:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 DATE: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 17:46:03 +0200
 Subject: Freeradius-Users digest, Vol 1 #1031 - 1 msg
 
 
 has been held for later review by the administrator by Mail Essentials for the 
following reason(s):
 
 Body contains word(s)/phrase(s) 'XX X'
 
 
 Mail essentials
 
 

This would be droll if it weren't so pathetic. 

Hmmm.  I wonder what happens if I forge a message from itself, to itself
containing $badwords. 

- chad

-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url: http://www.advogato.org/person/cmiller/
  ``Having a smoking section in a restaurant is 
  like having a peeing section in a pool.''


- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



Debian FreeRADIUS package and Woody

2002-04-10 Thread Chad Miller

Hi, all.  I've decided to withdraw the radiusd-freeradius* packages from 
Debian Woody (the upcoming release).  If history is any indicator, any 
snapshot of the tree I take will need a signifigant patch not long after 
it's taken.  Debian's standards are too high, and administrative software
(and authentication in particular) is too important for me to allow that.

It will remain in Sid (unstable), of course, in hopes we'll be ready for
Woody+1.  I'll still keep the debian/ directory up-to-date, so builds from
CVS should be possible with minimal changes.

- chad

-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url: http://www.advogato.org/person/cmiller/
  ``Having a smoking section in a restaurant is 
like having a peeing section in a pool.''

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



Re: freeradius/debian

2002-04-09 Thread Chad Miller

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:58:16PM +0400, Ilja A Marchew wrote:
 2nd, FR has been removed from testing debian.  What is better: compile
 FR from tarball or get FR from unstable debian?

Right now, get the source from CVS or FTP, and build it yourself.

-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url: http://www.advogato.org/person/cmiller/
  ``Having a smoking section in a restaurant is 
like having a peeing section in a pool.''

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



Re: debian: compile error

2002-04-09 Thread Chad Miller

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:12:12PM +0400, Ilja A Marchew wrote:
 I try to build debian package from radiusd-freeradius (0.5+cvs20020408-1)
 with 'src/freeradius-snapshot-20020409# fakeroot debian/rules' command
 and get this error:
 
 rlm_dbm.c:27: gdbm/ndbm.h: No such file or directory

The autoconf test is broken.  
 
 where i must set HAVE_GDBMNDBM_H? what is my error?

You can force it in the source, or try CVS in a few days.

- chad

-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url: http://www.advogato.org/person/cmiller/
  ``Having a smoking section in a restaurant is 
like having a peeing section in a pool.''

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



Re: FreeRadius 0.5 and Debian 3.0

2002-04-08 Thread Chad Miller

 From: Andrew Tait [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: FreeRadius 0.5 and Debian 3.0
 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:34:20 +1000
 
 The radiusd-freeradius packages have been REMOVED from Debian testing/woody,
 because of the severe bugs
 (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=radiusd-freeradiusrepeatm
 erged=yes) outstanding, and the fact that the debian package is outdated
 (0.4)
 
 If freeradius is going to be in the Debian distribution, now is the time to
 get it in there. Woody is getting close to release (1st May is probable
 date).

I (the current maintainer) am working on it.


 ---
 From: Matthew Wallis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Can apt be setup to get a nightly snapshot, compile, and install that?

With some simple scripting, it's possible.

 While it would be nice to have FreeRadius in Debian, I think the
 current release cycle is entirely to fast for it.

 0.5 was released less than a month ago, and the nightly builds
 already far surpass it.
 
 I don't believe packaging is the issue for FreeRadius, simply that
 the amount of work currently being done, means that no package
 would stay in Debian for more than a night.

Matthew's right.  The rate of development makes it awfully hard to plan 
releases.  IMO, FreeRADIUS needs a stable branch that is pushed towards 
1.0, instead of the whole tree being in a perpetual alpha-state.  That
means no EAP, no Python module, no $whiz_bang_untested_feature, and I'm not
sure anyone is willing to draw a line, as yet, and that makes my job
awfully hard.
 
Freeze, branch a stable tree, backport bugfixes, wait, release.

I'll release a CVS snapshot, likely.  :(

- chad

-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url: http://www.advogato.org/person/cmiller/
  ``Having a smoking section in a restaurant is 
like having a peeing section in a pool.''

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



When your signature is longer than your message, you lose.

2002-03-25 Thread Chad Miller

 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:55:31 +0100
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Compiling Problems.
 
 I have the same problems using the IBM compiler.
 In that case I also have the added problem that fcntl.h is not in
 /usr/include/sys but in /usr/include/.
 which breaks radzap.
 
 regards,
 Nico Baggus
 
 -
 ATTENTION:
 The information in this electronic mail message is private and
 confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you
 receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that
 any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this
 message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by
 reply transmission and delete the message without copying or
 opening it.
 
 Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known.
 If this message contains password-protected attachments, the
 files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain.
 Always scan attachments before opening them.
 -


That is the most braindead .sig I have ever seen (aside, perhaps, from
other similar ones).  Oh ho!  Here's another:


 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 18:39:47 +0530
 From: Anchal Arora [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: Mahindra British Telecom
 Subject: Proxy not forwarding Access Accept to client
 
 I am using freeRADIUS 0.4 on Red Hat linux  7.2 and have set it up as a
 Proxy.
[...]
 
 
 *
 Disclaimer
 
 This message (including any attachments) contains 
 confidential information intended for a specific 
 individual and purpose, and is protected by law. 
 If you are not the intended recipient, you should 
 delete this message and are hereby notified that 
 any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this
 message, or the taking of any action based on it, 
 is strictly prohibited.
 
 *
 Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com
 


Stop it, guys.  Really.  I think the best way to ensure that your confi-
dential information is protected (O! how bogus!) is to filter all
messages that contain such .sigs into the trash at the list-server,
wouldn't you agree?  I mean, golly, if they're protected by law, we don't
want to be liable!  We've gotta make sure these .sig imperatives are
followed!

Maybe I can talk Mike into letting me add such a filter.  Maybe I won't
have to, though, eh?

- chad

-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url: http://www.advogato.org/person/cmiller/
By reading this message, you agree to donate US$5000 to the FreeRADIUS 
project.  Contact Alan for payment options.

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



Re: Using smbpasswd with freeradius?

2002-02-25 Thread Chad Miller

On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 01:18:33PM -0500, Kurt Hockenbury wrote:
 Here's my situation.  I have a few thousand users, and they'd like to be able
 to do VPN.  I have a cisco VPN box, that supports radius.  I have a crypt(3)
 unix passwd file, and an smbpasswd file, with entries in both for all users.
 
 Now I could use freeradius with PAP authentication against the crypt(3)
 passwords -- but then passwords are going to be flying around in the clear,
 which is no good, especially since some of those VPN users could be coming in
 over a wireless connection.

Inside of the RADIUS protocol, the password is not in the clear.  Choose care-
fully the shared secret between RADIUS server and client, and change it at
the same rate you expire users' passwords.  

Where could it be in the clear?  Only at the user's keyboard, and potentially
in the communication between the user and the RADIUS client.  Make suer that
communication between the RADIUS client and the user-controlled software is 
protected, if possible.  (Sorry -- I don't know about Cisco's product.)
 
 So that implies using CHAP.  But I don't have plaintext passwords for these
 users.

Right.  Without having plaintext or decryptable passwords, you can't do
cryptographic authentication.  Tanstaafl.

Perhaps you should do PAP auth for a little while, and ask users to change
their passwords, and when they do, store the plaintext version.
 
 I have seen tantalizing glimpses that it may be possible use our smbpasswd
 file to do MS-CHAP authentication, but I can't find any specific instructions
 as to how to make this happen.

An aside: 

A SMB password file is nearly as good as plaintext.  It's trivial to extract
the majority of the passwords (all fall with a little computation, but few 
users choose good passwords), though not the case of the letters.  
 
 So my question is, is this possible?  And if so, can some one point me a (even
 rough) instructions?

Yes.  The example exec-program program might give you tips about a way to
implement it.  There may be other ways, too.

-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url: http://www.advogato.org/person/cmiller/
  ``Having a smoking section in a restaurant is 
like having a peeing section in a pool.''

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



Re: can u gime some advice

2002-02-21 Thread Chad Miller

[removed crosspost to -devel; this is not about development]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 02:58:30PM +0800, skycony wrote:
 I want to use freeradius in our commercial product, should I use the release 
freeradius0.4 or the snapshot?

Unfortunately, FreeRADIUS doesn't have a formal release schedule or proce-
dure.  In most software projects, I'd recommend the 0.4 branch, but there's 
no good answer, here.  The snapshot has fixed a few bugs that the last 
release had.  But, there are almost certainly a few new bugs introduced in 
the new code.

In software projects that haven't ever released a major release (usually 
1.0), there's usually a point at which the developers decide that there 
are the right amount of features for a major release.  FreeRADIUS hasn't yet
done that, so untested code is always intermingled with tested code, and at 
any point, there are a dozen bugs to fix before a real release could be 
possible.

So, you're screwed either way.  I'd suggest getting the 0.4 release and back-
porting the current bugfixes.

Be sure you understand the license on FreeRADIUS, too.

- chad

-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url: http://www.advogato.org/person/cmiller/
  ``Having a smoking section in a restaurant is 
like having a peeing section in a pool.''

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



Re: Exec-Program attribute

2002-02-20 Thread Chad Miller

html
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 08:36:40PM +0800, ?d?K?? wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am just a beginner.

Yes.  blinkDon't send HTML!

 Could anyone tell me how to use the Exec-Program attribute?
 I want to use freeradius with some other program so I set the USERS files as follows:
 
 Bob  Auth-Type:=Local, Password=asfd, Exec-Program:=/bin/ls  /root/test
 Reply-Message=hello

Are you sure that the user the server is running as can write to /root/test ?
I haven't checked the code, but redirection man not work, anyway, if the
code isn't running a shell.  If you must do redirection, you may have to use
/bin/sh -c ...

Alan's suggestion of looking at the tarball-included example file should help.

 Thanking in advance

Thank us by changing your mailer to send text ONLY./blink


-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url: http://www.advogato.org/person/cmiller/
  ``Having a smoking section in a restaurant is 
like having a peeing section in a pool.''

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



Re: freeradius+mysql accounting issues

2001-12-26 Thread Chad Miller

On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 12:14:40PM -0500, Jeremy Kusnetz wrote:
 For some reason the only way I can get freeradius to update the radacct
 tables in my mysql database is to run it in debug mode, either -x or -X
 When running it in debug mode everything works great.  But as soon as I
 start freeradius with no debugging.  Authentication still works, but it
 doesn't seem to insert or update any of my radacct tables.  Running tcpdump
 I see requests are being made to the accounting port, but freeradius just
 doesn't seem to be listening.  I've also tried starting it with the -sf
 options, but it still doesn't work.  Only in debug mode does it work.
 
 Any ideas?  What further info can I give about my configuration?

Does MySQL use a Unix socket or named pipe that only root has access to?
(Or more specifically, that the radius user and group _doesn't_ have access 
to.)

In debug mode (IIRC), the server doesn't give up it's identity as root,
where normal mode does.  Maybe your problem is related to that.

- chad

-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url: http://www.advogato.org/person/cmiller/
  ``Is it wrong to donate Kool-Aid to one's favorite kook organizations 
  when the comets come around?''   - C. M.

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



Re: Programming language support

2001-12-04 Thread Chad Miller

On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 05:23:42PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What programming languages can I use when specifying
 Exec-program-wait?. Can I use pretty much anything that outputs
 to stdout?. I need to execute some database queries and cannot
 do it in shell.

The server's only interface to that is exec(), so anything that your system
can handle with that call is valid.  To be more specific:  The server doesn't
know or care about the language.


-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]   url: http://web.chad.org/home/
  ``Is it wrong to donate Kool-Aid to one's favorite kook organizations 
  when The Comets come around?''   - C. M.

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



Re: Decent docs

2001-11-28 Thread Chad Miller

Hi, Chris.

On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 01:42:02PM -0600, Chris Parker wrote:
 However, in order to use it, I have to learn a whole new markup language.
 
 Irony of ironies, the documentation for JADE ( the editor recommended
 on the docbook site ) sucks.

Ugh.  That site must really suck, if it led you to believe jade is an editor.
'jade' is a renderer.  It will render the DocBook SGML to any format that it
has a backend for (usually HTML, PDF, and RTF).  

Docbook really is nice.  Please try it.  An excellent site is
 URL: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/docbook/chapter/book/docbook.html
.  Here's how useful DocBook is:  O'Reilley's authors use Docbook (usually).
ORA used jade on the very same source to render it to ROFF for the print-house
and HTML for the webmonster.  Both look really good.

I'm becomming to grok the Buddha-nature of DSSSL (we use it at work), so feel
free to ask me to make the rendering phase do what you want.

Attached is the single-page HTML rendering of what I have so far.

- chad

-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]   url: http://web.chad.org/home/
  ``Is it wrong to donate Kool-Aid to one's favorite kook organizations 
  when The Comets come around?''   - C. M.

Title: FreeRADIUS Operating Manual
FreeRADIUS Operating ManualCopyright  2001 by The FreeRADIUS ProjectTable of Contents1. Overview1.1. Compilation and Installation1.2. Execution2. Configuration Concepts and Files2.1. Configuration Structure and Parsing2.2. Actual Sections and Variables2.2.1. Five Execution Sections2.2.2. Top-level Variables2.2.3. Proxy Section2.2.4. Thread Pool Section2.2.5. Clients Section2.2.6. Module Section3. TroubleshootingA. Format of the users fileB. Username Collision HandlingB.1. AuthenticationB.2. AccountingC. String TranslationIndexList of Examples1-1. Compiling and Installing FreeRADIUS2-1. Sections, Subsections, and Comments2-2. Defining proxy realms2-3. Listing for a RADIUS clientB-1. Collision in a users fileB-2. Collision information in a passwd fileChapter 1. Overview			FreeRADIUS is an implementation of the RADIUS protocol.  It aims to be a free, fast, robust, feature-rich
			server.
	Livingston's RADIUS server, the first decent free (libre) RADIUS server, is the
			basis of most RADIUS implementations today.  From it grew many attempts at improvement and redesign.  One of
			those reimplementations, Cistron's, became popular for its features and rapid development and it became a staple
			for those in the ISP business who were dissatisfied with other servers.  Eventually, Cistron's server was well
			entrenched, and development and redesign issues begat The FreeRADIUS Project.  Cistron's server is still in usage, but
			active development on it has ceased and been moved to development of FreeRADIUS
	The RADIUS protocol is a means of authentication and accounting sessions, usually of dialin users, but feasably
			of any kind of session.  It does not address other concerns like billing, user organization, or data management.
			A RADIUS server listens on a network for authentication requests, and upon receipt of requests, either answers
			with a rejection or with confirmation and optional session attribute suggestions.  Upon recipt of an accounting
			packet, it can store evidence of the session starting or terminating.
		1.1. Compilation and InstallationThe FreeRADIUS server is written in the C programming language, and a POSIX environment with a ANSI C compiler
and GNU Make is necessary to create an executable from source code.  There are plenty of optional features of
the server that require additional software to be installed for one to use those features.
			At present, The FreeRADIUS Project does not distribute binary packages; you might get some from your OS vendor or by
asking the freeradius-users email list.  All the components necessary to build a binary are freely available,
though, so you should be able to build it yourself.
			One should get the server's source code by reading the instructions at http://www.freeradius.org/getting.html.
			The steps for compiling and installing from FreeRADIUS source (in an example ~/freeradius
directory) should be something like...
Example 1-1. Compiling and Installing FreeRADIUSfoo:~/freeradius$  ./configure --help
(browse the options)
foo:~/freeradius$  ./configure [options]
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
[...]
foo:~/freeradius$  make
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/bar/freeradius'
[...]
foo:~/freeradius$  su
Password:
foo:~/freeradius#  make install
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/bar/freeradius'
[...]
	
			1.2. ExecutionThe server executable should be at sbin

Re: core dumps where?

2001-11-01 Thread Chad Miller

On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 10:33:01AM +0100, Thomas Jalsovsky wrote:
 don't forget tho the shell... in RH7.x the default core filesize is zero.
 You can change this with ulimit -c 1000 (means unlimited).
 (/etc/profile)

'ulimit -c unlimited' should work better.  An exabyte of RAM won't be
far-fetched for long.  :)
 
-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]   url: http://web.chad.org/home/
  ``Is it wrong to donate Kool-Aid to one's favorite kook organizations 
  when The Comets come around?''   - C. M.

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



Re: trying to build 0.3 on debian potato

2001-10-18 Thread Chad Miller

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 06:31:41PM +1000, Mervyn Jack wrote:
 I have used it as is and used debuild to build a copy on a Debian Woody
 Testing platform no problems.

Good.

 I wanted to use it on a Potato system.

There is no reverse-compatibility.  Build it like everybody else, except 
using './configure -prefix=/usr/local'.  The Stable/Potato build-tools and
environment aren't sufficient to make a package.  You _could_ build the
prerequisites by hand.

The problem is that the build rules make four packages, not one.  Three 
of those packages aren't possible under Stable/Potato.  

- chad

-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]   url: http://web.chad.org/home/
  ``Is it wrong to donate Kool-Aid to one's favorite kook organizations 
  when The Comets come around?''   - C. M.

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



debian freeradius package

2001-09-26 Thread Chad Miller

Hi, guys.  

The Debian package is alive and well.  I last uploaded 0_2+20010917-1 to
sid on (you guessed it) 17 Sept.  It should fall into woody RSN.  I'm ready
to make one for 0.3 at the drop of a hat.

Btw, there is an initscript in the debian/ directory, and the build rules
use it.  It works properly with the location of the pidfile.  (All of that
changed on the 17th, so use a recent tree.)

When Alan tags 0.3, I'll update the changelog and retag it to 0.3, and
upload to sid again.  You can wait and get the official package for your
particular architecture, or set the date and version in the changelog and
make your own, or apt-get source whenever you like.

- chad

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



Re: duplicated logs: lot more details

2001-07-31 Thread Chad Miller

On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 04:51:19PM +0200, Samuel Maftoul wrote:
 Neither the first nor the second answer seem to be the solution.
 Here is a detailed configuration of how things works for me:

Try tcpdump on the RADIUS-serving machine, and debug radius
authentication (?) on the Cisco.  The answer's there somewhere.

You're sure you don't have the detail module listed in your config a few
times?  
- chad

-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | If you keep your mind sufficiently 
unix brujo, shutterbug, bookworm | open, people will throw a lot of 
URL: http://web.chad.org/home/   | rubbish into it.  --William Orton

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html



Re: duplicated loging

2001-07-28 Thread Chad Miller

On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 09:30:55AM +0200, Samuel Maftoul wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 05:41:01PM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
  Samuel Maftoul  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm encountering troubles using freeradius-0.1 with an AS 5300 cisco nas:
  I have four (no more or less) duplication of every action.
  
  Does the machine you're running the radius server on have more
  than one IP address? If so, bind the server to the IP address you're
  using for the radius server by using the '-i' command line option
  or the 'myip' parameter in the config file.
  
  This is in the FAQ, btw
 That's why i've already tested. :)
 It doesn't do anything. (in the faq it's written that masseages are sent a lot of 
time like if there was network connexion problem or things like that.
 My message are just repeated 4 times. 
 Maybe something can help you to help me (:)) I have splet something:It's not an AS 
5300 but a cisco 2514.


If the server is replying with the wrong address on the packets, then
the NAS would ignore them and retry sending them, hoping to get a
response.  You're using the wrong address.  Really. 

- chad

-- 
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | If you keep your mind sufficiently 
unix brujo, shutterbug, bookworm | open, people will throw a lot of 
URL: http://web.chad.org/home/   | rubbish into it.  --William Orton

- 
List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html