Re: FreeRadius 0.5 and Debian 3.0

2002-04-08 Thread Florin Andrei

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 09:30, Chad Miller wrote:
> 
> Matthew's right.  The rate of development makes it awfully hard to plan 
> releases.  IMO, FreeRADIUS needs a "stable" branch that is pushed towards 
> 1.0, instead of the whole tree being in a perpetual alpha-state.  That
> means no EAP, no Python module, no $whiz_bang_untested_feature

That would be awesome!

I would like to deploy FreeRadius in production, as an authorization
server (keep the allowed IPs for each user in MySQL with FreeRadius) and
pushing the authentication to another Radius server (using FreeRadius's
proxy feature), but the current status of the source tree kind of scares
me. :-/

I mean, for me, if only the MySQL authorization backend and the Radius
proxy authentication would be "stable" - that should be theoretically
enough. But there's a ton of other things that make me wait for a stable
release. Which kind of sucks, because FreeRadius is so cool. ;-)

-- 
Florin Andrei

A bug is a feature that can't be turned off.


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Re: FreeRadius 0.5 and Debian 3.0

2002-04-08 Thread Chad Miller

> From: "Andrew Tait" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: FreeRadius 0.5 and Debian 3.0
> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:34:20 +1000
> 
> The radiusd-freeradius packages have been REMOVED from Debian testing/woody,
> because of the severe bugs
> (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=radiusd-freeradius&repeatm
> erged=yes) outstanding, and the fact that the debian package is outdated
> (0.4)
> 
> If freeradius is going to be in the Debian distribution, now is the time to
> get it in there. Woody is getting close to release (1st May is probable
> date).

I (the current maintainer) am working on it.


> ---
> From: Matthew Wallis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Can apt be setup to get a nightly snapshot, compile, and install that?

With some simple scripting, it's possible.

> While it would be nice to have FreeRadius in Debian, I think the
> current release cycle is entirely to fast for it.
>
> 0.5 was released less than a month ago, and the nightly builds
> already far surpass it.
> 
> I don't believe packaging is the issue for FreeRadius, simply that
> the amount of work currently being done, means that no package
> would stay in Debian for more than a night.

Matthew's right.  The rate of development makes it awfully hard to plan 
releases.  IMO, FreeRADIUS needs a "stable" branch that is pushed towards 
1.0, instead of the whole tree being in a perpetual alpha-state.  That
means no EAP, no Python module, no $whiz_bang_untested_feature, and I'm not
sure anyone is willing to draw a line, as yet, and that makes my job
awfully hard.
 
Freeze, branch a stable tree, backport bugfixes, wait, release.

I'll release a CVS snapshot, likely.  :(

- chad

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like having a peeing section in a pool.''

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Re: FreeRadius 0.5 and Debian 3.0

2002-04-08 Thread Borut Mrak

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On Monday 08 April 2002 12:20, you wrote:
> Yikes, not good. I mananged to build a cvs-snapshot after
> a fair amount of mucking around but I'm not sure I'd want
> to run the end result :) FWIW... my notes on how...

oh my...I haven't built any of the post-0.5 snapshots, but I haven't nad any 
problems before that:

here's the recipe:

0. Install package build-essential
1. Install all of the build-dependencies (grep Build-Dep debian/control)
2. $ fakeroot debian/rules binary
3. # dpkg -i ../*.deb

And that's it. If the compile fails you find out why and simply add a 
- --without_rlm-xxx to the configure line in debian/rules, as some modules in 
the CVS snapshots tend to misbehave sometimes :-)

I managed to build quite a few CVS snapshots from 0.1 to 0.5 without much 
fuss.

Oh yes, I forgot: you should add an entry to the top of debian/changelog 
(before building the package) so you know the details about the package when 
you're looking at it in a few months' time. It helps a lot, believe me.

regards,

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Re: FreeRadius 0.5 and Debian 3.0

2002-04-08 Thread Mark Constable

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:34, Andrew Tait wrote:

> The radiusd-freeradius packages have been REMOVED from Debian testing/woody,
> because of the severe bugs
> (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=radiusd-freeradius&repeatm
> erged=yes) outstanding, and the fact that the debian package is outdated
> (0.4) ...

Yikes, not good. I mananged to build a cvs-snapshot after
a fair amount of mucking around but I'm not sure I'd want
to run the end result :) FWIW... my notes on how...

wget 
ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/radius/CVS-snapshots/freeradius-snapshot-20020408.tar.gz

apt-get install debhelper libgdbmg1-dev libssl-dev libkrb5-dev libssl-dev libsasl-dev 
libldap2-dev libpam0g-dev libltdl3-dev libmysqlclient10-dev

edit debian/rules and add these to the configure line (~30)
--without-rlm_ippool --without-rlm_x99_token --without-rlm_sql_postgresql 
--without-rlm_python --without-rlm_pam --without-rlm_krb5 --without-rlm_dbm
and on line ~40 I made this horrible change.
#   for modname in krb5 ldap mysql postgresql python; do \
for modname in mysql; do \

mv src/modules/rlm_ippool .

Finally do a debian/rules binary and maybe end up with a
current MySQL enabled FR at least.

--markc

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Re: FreeRadius 0.5 and Debian 3.0

2002-04-07 Thread Matthew Wallis

Can apt be setup to get a nightly snapshot, compile, and install that?
While it would be nice to have FreeRadius in Debian, I think the
current release cycle is entirely to fast for it.

0.5 was released less than a month ago, and the nightly builds
already far surpass it.

I don't believe packaging is the issue for FreeRadius, simply that
the amount of work currently being done, means that no package
would stay in Debian for more than a night.

Matt.

On Monday, April 8, 2002, at 03:34 PM, Andrew Tait wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> The radiusd-freeradius packages have been REMOVED from Debian 
> testing/woody,
> because of the severe bugs
> (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=radiusd-
> freeradius&repeatm
> erged=yes) outstanding, and the fact that the debian package is outdated
> (0.4)
>
> If freeradius is going to be in the Debian distribution, now is the 
> time to
> get it in there. Woody is getting close to release (1st May is probable
> date).
>
> Quote from www.freeradius.org: "including several developers of the 
> Debian
> GNU/Linux operating system".
>
> Perhaps some of these developers would be kind enough to package 0.5 
> for us
> debian users?
>
> I would be more that willing to help test any packages.
>
> Andrew Tait
> System Administrator
> Country NetLink Pty, Ltd
> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> WWW: http://www.cnl.com.au
> 30 Bank St Cobram, VIC 3644, Australia
> Ph: +61 (03) 58 711 000
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>
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FreeRadius 0.5 and Debian 3.0

2002-04-07 Thread Andrew Tait

Hi All,

The radiusd-freeradius packages have been REMOVED from Debian testing/woody,
because of the severe bugs
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=radiusd-freeradius&repeatm
erged=yes) outstanding, and the fact that the debian package is outdated
(0.4)

If freeradius is going to be in the Debian distribution, now is the time to
get it in there. Woody is getting close to release (1st May is probable
date).

Quote from www.freeradius.org: "including several developers of the Debian
GNU/Linux operating system".

Perhaps some of these developers would be kind enough to package 0.5 for us
debian users?

I would be more that willing to help test any packages.

Andrew Tait
System Administrator
Country NetLink Pty, Ltd
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://www.cnl.com.au
30 Bank St Cobram, VIC 3644, Australia
Ph: +61 (03) 58 711 000
Fax: +61 (03) 58 711 874

"It's the smell! If there is such a thing." Agent Smith - The Matrix




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