RE: Authentication against /etc/shadow using ...

2003-11-18 Thread Guy Davies
 
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No, CHAP, and MS-CHAP (the inner authentication method used with PEAP)
require clear text passwords.  Therefore, the shadow password file is not
compatible with these methods.  This bit me to start with.

You could always try TTLS with SYSTEM as the inner authentication mechanism?
Alan is a strong proponent of TTLS vs PEAP, and I have to say that in a
purist sense, he's absolutely right.  Unfortunately, the two largest players
in the market have used (two incompatible versions of) PEAP :-(.  This means
that it is more trivial, particularly with Microsoft based clients, to use
PEAP/MS-CHAPv2.

Regards,

Guy

 -Original Message-
 From: José Berenguer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 18 November 2003 12:56
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Authentication against /etc/shadow using ...
 
 
 
 We are trying to authenticate users with FreeRadius 0.9.2 against
 the /etc/shadow file in a solaris system.
 
 We know that System authentication won't work for 
 EAP-MD5. But, it's
 possible to make it using CHAP or PEAP?
 
 Thanks!
 
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   José Berenguer Giménez
  Área de Comunicaciones-Servicio de Informática
   UNIVERSIDAD DE ALMERÍA
Crta. de Sacramento s/n, 04120 - Almería
Tlf.: 950014014 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Authentication against /etc/shadow using ...

2003-11-18 Thread Artur Hecker
salut


No, CHAP, and MS-CHAP (the inner authentication method used with PEAP)
require clear text passwords.  Therefore, the shadow password file is not
compatible with these methods.  This bit me to start with.
so, there is no PAP for PEAP?


You could always try TTLS with SYSTEM as the inner authentication mechanism?
Alan is a strong proponent of TTLS vs PEAP, and I have to say that in a
purist sense, he's absolutely right.  Unfortunately, the two largest players
in the market have used (two incompatible versions of) PEAP :-(.  This means
that it is more trivial, particularly with Microsoft based clients, to use
PEAP/MS-CHAPv2.
well, one thing is for sure: TTLS supports PAP as the inner 
authentication method.

ciao
artur


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RE: Authentication against /etc/shadow using ...

2003-11-18 Thread Guy Davies
 
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 From: Artur Hecker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 18 November 2003 15:49
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 salut
 
 
  No, CHAP, and MS-CHAP (the inner authentication method used 
 with PEAP)
  require clear text passwords.  Therefore, the shadow 
 password file is not
  compatible with these methods.  This bit me to start with.
 
 so, there is no PAP for PEAP?

Not if you use an MS client, which is the most convincing reason to do so.
;-)

Regards,

Guy

  You could always try TTLS with SYSTEM as the inner 
 authentication mechanism?
  Alan is a strong proponent of TTLS vs PEAP, and I have to 
 say that in a
  purist sense, he's absolutely right.  Unfortunately, the 
 two largest players
  in the market have used (two incompatible versions of) PEAP 
 :-(.  This means
  that it is more trivial, particularly with Microsoft based 
 clients, to use
  PEAP/MS-CHAPv2.
 
 well, one thing is for sure: TTLS supports PAP as the inner 
 authentication method.
 
 
 ciao
 artur
 
 
 
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Re: Authentication against /etc/shadow using ...

2003-11-18 Thread Alan DeKok
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Berenguer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We know that System authentication won't work for EAP-MD5. But, it's
 possible to make it using CHAP or PEAP?

  No.  See the FAQ.  It talks SPECIFICALLY about system authentication
and CHAP.

  Microsoft PEAP doesn't send clear-text passwords, so it's impossible
to use /etc/password for authentication.

  Alan DeKok.

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