Re: Another possibility to reconcile?
Hi Ivan, Thanks. Heard alot about it, but it doesn't run Chilli or Coova native in the distribution. Client wouldn't allow me to "piecemeal" a solution. Thanks, Tuc > > Try this instead of DD-WRT: > > http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato > > Ivan Kalik > Kalik Informatika ISP > > > Dana 16/5/2008, "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pi?e: > > >Hi Ivan, > > > > We have many Chillispot systems, but as I mentioned before, > >combined, at the time it was approximately 14. > > > > I was hoping that there would be some way to have checkrad do > >that for us, but since DD-WRT runs Chillispot and not Coova, we don't have > >access to a great utility Coova implemented which would be able to tell us > >what sessions it has active at the time. > > > > Since I wrote the email, I've learned more. It seems that the > >DD-WRT units reboot daily as their version of "Garbage Collection". It > >also seems that unlike Coova, the old Chilli did not send Accounting_On > >when it booted, and Accounting_Off when it was shutting down. I have > >to do some more log and file investigation, but I'm thinking that the > >combination of those 2 issues is whats causing all the "dirty" sessions. > > > > Since all the units send output to syslog, I'm thinking about > >having syslog output to a perl program that parses all the lines and if > >it sees the beginning of a DD-WRT reboot, it will forge an Accounting_On > >packet (If that is possible. I'm not sure if I'll run into the same issue > >I did with trying to run a radtest from the radius server with the IP > >and secret for a remote unit). > > > > I'll also see, but I'm sure it'll be pretty difficult, if I > >can convince the DD-WRT people to port the Accounting_On/Off function, > >and hopefully Coova itself! > > > > Thanks, Tuc > >> > >> OK, you have 90 sessions open in radacct. How many users does Chillispot > >> see as current? If there is a big difference than you are not getting > >> all accounting Stop packets. You should run a script that removes stale > >> entries (those open for longer than x hours) from radacct. > >> > >> Ivan Kalik > >> Kalik Informatika ISP > >> > >> > >> Dana 16/5/2008, "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pi?e: > >> > >> >Hi, > >> > > >> > I'm looking to implement the Simultaneous-User Value in radcheck. > >> >(FR 2.0.3) I'm having the issue that, for whatever reason (I'd blame the > >> >network in a heartbeat, not FR at all), the accounting for a logged in > >> >user > >> >never gets from a NULL acctstoptime to one filled in. > >> > > >> > At the current time, radwho on the server shows approximately > >> >22 active users. In reality I think it'd be more like 1/2 of that. A > >> >"SELECT count( * ) FROM radacct WHERE acctstoptime IS NULL ;" shows 91 > >> >records. > >> > > >> > Due to the version of the NAS we are running (DD-WRT with Chillispot), > >> >we can't get checkrad to help true up the information. > >> > > >> > Is there another way to help keep everything in sync, so we don't have > >> >users who pay for a single ID, doing things like : > >> > > >> >lobnic14 00-13-02-25-8C- shell S1 Thu 17:3 192.168.7 192.168.182.3 > >> >lobnic14 00-1B-77-11-F4- shell S2 Thu 22:1 192.168.7 192.168.182.4 > >> >damrap600-0E-35-C0-16- shell S1 Thu 22:1 192.168.5 192.168.182.5 > >> >damrap600-11-24-8F-27- shell S3 Thu 20:2 192.168.5 192.168.182.10 > >> >damrap600-1B-77-06-2F- shell S4 Thu 20:2 192.168.5 192.168.182.11 > >> > > >> > Thanks, Tuc - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Another possibility to reconcile?
Try this instead of DD-WRT: http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato Ivan Kalik Kalik Informatika ISP Dana 16/5/2008, "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> piše: >Hi Ivan, > > We have many Chillispot systems, but as I mentioned before, >combined, at the time it was approximately 14. > > I was hoping that there would be some way to have checkrad do >that for us, but since DD-WRT runs Chillispot and not Coova, we don't have >access to a great utility Coova implemented which would be able to tell us >what sessions it has active at the time. > > Since I wrote the email, I've learned more. It seems that the >DD-WRT units reboot daily as their version of "Garbage Collection". It >also seems that unlike Coova, the old Chilli did not send Accounting_On >when it booted, and Accounting_Off when it was shutting down. I have >to do some more log and file investigation, but I'm thinking that the >combination of those 2 issues is whats causing all the "dirty" sessions. > > Since all the units send output to syslog, I'm thinking about >having syslog output to a perl program that parses all the lines and if >it sees the beginning of a DD-WRT reboot, it will forge an Accounting_On >packet (If that is possible. I'm not sure if I'll run into the same issue >I did with trying to run a radtest from the radius server with the IP >and secret for a remote unit). > > I'll also see, but I'm sure it'll be pretty difficult, if I >can convince the DD-WRT people to port the Accounting_On/Off function, >and hopefully Coova itself! > > Thanks, Tuc >> >> OK, you have 90 sessions open in radacct. How many users does Chillispot >> see as current? If there is a big difference than you are not getting >> all accounting Stop packets. You should run a script that removes stale >> entries (those open for longer than x hours) from radacct. >> >> Ivan Kalik >> Kalik Informatika ISP >> >> >> Dana 16/5/2008, "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> piše: >> >> >Hi, >> > >> >I'm looking to implement the Simultaneous-User Value in radcheck. >> >(FR 2.0.3) I'm having the issue that, for whatever reason (I'd blame the >> >network in a heartbeat, not FR at all), the accounting for a logged in user >> >never gets from a NULL acctstoptime to one filled in. >> > >> >At the current time, radwho on the server shows approximately >> >22 active users. In reality I think it'd be more like 1/2 of that. A >> >"SELECT count( * ) FROM radacct WHERE acctstoptime IS NULL ;" shows 91 >> >records. >> > >> >Due to the version of the NAS we are running (DD-WRT with Chillispot), >> >we can't get checkrad to help true up the information. >> > >> >Is there another way to help keep everything in sync, so we don't have >> >users who pay for a single ID, doing things like : >> > >> >lobnic14 00-13-02-25-8C- shell S1 Thu 17:3 192.168.7 192.168.182.3 >> >lobnic14 00-1B-77-11-F4- shell S2 Thu 22:1 192.168.7 192.168.182.4 >> >damrap600-0E-35-C0-16- shell S1 Thu 22:1 192.168.5 192.168.182.5 >> >damrap600-11-24-8F-27- shell S3 Thu 20:2 192.168.5 192.168.182.10 >> >damrap600-1B-77-06-2F- shell S4 Thu 20:2 192.168.5 192.168.182.11 >> > >> >Thanks, Tuc >> >- >> >List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See >> >http://www.freeradius.org/list/usershtml >> > >> > >> >> - >> List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See >> http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html >> >> > > > - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Another possibility to reconcile?
Hi Ivan, We have many Chillispot systems, but as I mentioned before, combined, at the time it was approximately 14. I was hoping that there would be some way to have checkrad do that for us, but since DD-WRT runs Chillispot and not Coova, we don't have access to a great utility Coova implemented which would be able to tell us what sessions it has active at the time. Since I wrote the email, I've learned more. It seems that the DD-WRT units reboot daily as their version of "Garbage Collection". It also seems that unlike Coova, the old Chilli did not send Accounting_On when it booted, and Accounting_Off when it was shutting down. I have to do some more log and file investigation, but I'm thinking that the combination of those 2 issues is whats causing all the "dirty" sessions. Since all the units send output to syslog, I'm thinking about having syslog output to a perl program that parses all the lines and if it sees the beginning of a DD-WRT reboot, it will forge an Accounting_On packet (If that is possible. I'm not sure if I'll run into the same issue I did with trying to run a radtest from the radius server with the IP and secret for a remote unit). I'll also see, but I'm sure it'll be pretty difficult, if I can convince the DD-WRT people to port the Accounting_On/Off function, and hopefully Coova itself! Thanks, Tuc > > OK, you have 90 sessions open in radacct. How many users does Chillispot > see as current? If there is a big difference than you are not getting > all accounting Stop packets. You should run a script that removes stale > entries (those open for longer than x hours) from radacct. > > Ivan Kalik > Kalik Informatika ISP > > > Dana 16/5/2008, "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pi?e: > > >Hi, > > > > I'm looking to implement the Simultaneous-User Value in radcheck. > >(FR 2.0.3) I'm having the issue that, for whatever reason (I'd blame the > >network in a heartbeat, not FR at all), the accounting for a logged in user > >never gets from a NULL acctstoptime to one filled in. > > > > At the current time, radwho on the server shows approximately > >22 active users. In reality I think it'd be more like 1/2 of that. A > >"SELECT count( * ) FROM radacct WHERE acctstoptime IS NULL ;" shows 91 > >records. > > > > Due to the version of the NAS we are running (DD-WRT with Chillispot), > >we can't get checkrad to help true up the information. > > > > Is there another way to help keep everything in sync, so we don't have > >users who pay for a single ID, doing things like : > > > >lobnic14 00-13-02-25-8C- shell S1 Thu 17:3 192.168.7 192.168.182.3 > >lobnic14 00-1B-77-11-F4- shell S2 Thu 22:1 192.168.7 192.168.182.4 > >damrap600-0E-35-C0-16- shell S1 Thu 22:1 192.168.5 192.168.182.5 > >damrap600-11-24-8F-27- shell S3 Thu 20:2 192.168.5 192.168.182.10 > >damrap600-1B-77-06-2F- shell S4 Thu 20:2 192.168.5 192.168.182.11 > > > > Thanks, Tuc > >- > >List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See > >http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html > > > > > > - > List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html > > - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Another possibility to reconcile?
OK, you have 90 sessions open in radacct. How many users does Chillispot see as current? If there is a big difference than you are not getting all accounting Stop packets. You should run a script that removes stale entries (those open for longer than x hours) from radacct. Ivan Kalik Kalik Informatika ISP Dana 16/5/2008, "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> piše: >Hi, > > I'm looking to implement the Simultaneous-User Value in radcheck. >(FR 2.0.3) I'm having the issue that, for whatever reason (I'd blame the >network in a heartbeat, not FR at all), the accounting for a logged in user >never gets from a NULL acctstoptime to one filled in. > > At the current time, radwho on the server shows approximately >22 active users. In reality I think it'd be more like 1/2 of that. A >"SELECT count( * ) FROM radacct WHERE acctstoptime IS NULL ;" shows 91 >records. > > Due to the version of the NAS we are running (DD-WRT with Chillispot), >we can't get checkrad to help true up the information. > > Is there another way to help keep everything in sync, so we don't have >users who pay for a single ID, doing things like : > >lobnic14 00-13-02-25-8C- shell S1 Thu 17:3 192.168.7 192.168.182.3 >lobnic14 00-1B-77-11-F4- shell S2 Thu 22:1 192.168.7 192.168.182.4 >damrap600-0E-35-C0-16- shell S1 Thu 22:1 192.168.5 192.168.182.5 >damrap600-11-24-8F-27- shell S3 Thu 20:2 192.168.5 192.168.182.10 >damrap600-1B-77-06-2F- shell S4 Thu 20:2 192.168.5 192.168.182.11 > > Thanks, Tuc >- >List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html > > - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Another possibility to reconcile?
Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: > I'm looking to implement the Simultaneous-User Value in radcheck. > (FR 2.0.3) I'm having the issue that, for whatever reason (I'd blame the > network in a heartbeat, not FR at all), the accounting for a logged in user > never gets from a NULL acctstoptime to one filled in. Is the server getting accounting stop messages? Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Another possibility to reconcile?
Hi, I'm looking to implement the Simultaneous-User Value in radcheck. (FR 2.0.3) I'm having the issue that, for whatever reason (I'd blame the network in a heartbeat, not FR at all), the accounting for a logged in user never gets from a NULL acctstoptime to one filled in. At the current time, radwho on the server shows approximately 22 active users. In reality I think it'd be more like 1/2 of that. A "SELECT count( * ) FROM radacct WHERE acctstoptime IS NULL ;" shows 91 records. Due to the version of the NAS we are running (DD-WRT with Chillispot), we can't get checkrad to help true up the information. Is there another way to help keep everything in sync, so we don't have users who pay for a single ID, doing things like : lobnic14 00-13-02-25-8C- shell S1 Thu 17:3 192.168.7 192.168.182.3 lobnic14 00-1B-77-11-F4- shell S2 Thu 22:1 192.168.7 192.168.182.4 damrap600-0E-35-C0-16- shell S1 Thu 22:1 192.168.5 192.168.182.5 damrap600-11-24-8F-27- shell S3 Thu 20:2 192.168.5 192.168.182.10 damrap600-1B-77-06-2F- shell S4 Thu 20:2 192.168.5 192.168.182.11 Thanks, Tuc - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
