Re: Limit users traffic quota via radius

2007-09-19 Thread Peter Nixon
This is not correct. You may use SNMP, or you may use a RADIUS Change of 
Authority/Packet of Disconnect request...

Regards

Peter

On Wed 19 Sep 2007, Willie Yeo wrote:
 You need SNMP to disconnect the link, not Radius.

 The only other way I can think of is that, if you can use an external
 program/script to check the quota from your accounting records, and
 then if that quota is reached, then send the program sends to SNMP to
 disconnect the user.

 On 18/09/2007, at 6:34 PM, Massimiliano Macrì wrote:
  I'm trying to close the connection of a pre-paid mobile user, after
  he reached a limited amount of traffic (ie. 100 megabytes), the
  network device is a Cisco router.
  I've found may way to rate-limit the traffic bandwidth but not one
  to do this.
  Is radius the correct way to achieve this goal? It'all about vsa?

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Re: Limit users traffic quota via radius

2007-09-19 Thread Massimiliano Macrì

Hi,

so basically all I need is a  RFC 3576-compliant radius server and the 
correct vsa specific of cisco device?

What I do not understand is if :

)the radius check the quota (but how and how often?) and then push the 
disconnect to the device, or
)the device, once the user is authenticathed, get a profile and then it 
checks with an internal specific process (specified by a vsa), the 
quota, with the action after the threshold.


I'm a bit confused, as snmp/script solution implies that a machine 
should login/check the virtual interface status and then issue a command 
like shutdown correct?

Is thi the only way to accomplish a QoS task!?

Thanks for your help,

Massimiliano


Peter Nixon wrote:
This is not correct. You may use SNMP, or you may use a RADIUS Change of 
Authority/Packet of Disconnect request...


Regards

Peter

On Wed 19 Sep 2007, Willie Yeo wrote:
  

You need SNMP to disconnect the link, not Radius.

The only other way I can think of is that, if you can use an external
program/script to check the quota from your accounting records, and
then if that quota is reached, then send the program sends to SNMP to
disconnect the user.

On 18/09/2007, at 6:34 PM, Massimiliano Macrì wrote:


I'm trying to close the connection of a pre-paid mobile user, after
he reached a limited amount of traffic (ie. 100 megabytes), the
network device is a Cisco router.
I've found may way to rate-limit the traffic bandwidth but not one
to do this.
Is radius the correct way to achieve this goal? It'all about vsa?
  

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RE: Limit users traffic quota via radius

2007-09-19 Thread David Roze
You can tell the NAS to send accounting updates every so often (every hour
for example with: aaa accounting update periodic 60 on Cisco) and
calculate the amount of traffic each user has consumed with an SQL query in
the Radius database. Another option is to query the NAS with SNMP.

Check this to reset the user's interface with packet of disconnect:
http://wiki.freeradius.org/Packet_of_Disconnect

I wrote some articles about this on
http://www.netexpertise.eu/en/FreeRadius/index.html

A small script in shell would do what you want...

David Rozé

http://www.netexpertise.eu

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Subject: Re: Limit users traffic quota via radius

Hi,

so basically all I need is a  RFC 3576-compliant radius server and the 
correct vsa specific of cisco device?
What I do not understand is if :

)the radius check the quota (but how and how often?) and then push the 
disconnect to the device, or
)the device, once the user is authenticathed, get a profile and then it 
checks with an internal specific process (specified by a vsa), the 
quota, with the action after the threshold.

I'm a bit confused, as snmp/script solution implies that a machine 
should login/check the virtual interface status and then issue a command 
like shutdown correct?
Is thi the only way to accomplish a QoS task!?

Thanks for your help,

Massimiliano


Peter Nixon wrote:
 This is not correct. You may use SNMP, or you may use a RADIUS Change of 
 Authority/Packet of Disconnect request...

 Regards

 Peter

 On Wed 19 Sep 2007, Willie Yeo wrote:
   
 You need SNMP to disconnect the link, not Radius.

 The only other way I can think of is that, if you can use an external
 program/script to check the quota from your accounting records, and
 then if that quota is reached, then send the program sends to SNMP to
 disconnect the user.

 On 18/09/2007, at 6:34 PM, Massimiliano Macrì wrote:
 
 I'm trying to close the connection of a pre-paid mobile user, after
 he reached a limited amount of traffic (ie. 100 megabytes), the
 network device is a Cisco router.
 I've found may way to rate-limit the traffic bandwidth but not one
 to do this.
 Is radius the correct way to achieve this goal? It'all about vsa?
   
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Limit users traffic quota via radius

2007-09-18 Thread Massimiliano Macrì


Hi,

I'm trying to close the connection of a pre-paid mobile user, after he 
reached a limited amount of traffic (ie. 100 megabytes), the network 
device is a Cisco router.
I've found may way to rate-limit the traffic bandwidth but not one to do 
this.

Is radius the correct way to achieve this goal? It'all about vsa?

Thanks all,


Massimiliano
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Re: Limit users traffic quota via radius

2007-09-18 Thread inverse
On 9/18/07, Massimiliano Macrì [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I'm trying to close the connection of a pre-paid mobile user, after he
 reached a limited amount of traffic (ie. 100 megabytes), the network
 device is a Cisco router.
 I've found may way to rate-limit the traffic bandwidth but not one to do
 this.
 Is radius the correct way to achieve this goal? It'all about vsa?

Radius isn't supposed to terminate anything on its own, it just takes
note of a user session history and validates logins.
What you should do is to find some way of telling Cisco that a
particular session is to be disconnected when a certain limit is
reached. If your Cisco can output real time stats AND can accept
external disconnection commands, then it might be possible to
implement what you want.
But honestly this process should be implemented completely inside the
Cisco, and then, when a disconnect triggers, your Cisco should tell
Radius about it. The opposite isn't bound to happen.

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Re: Limit users traffic quota via radius

2007-09-18 Thread liran tal
Actually if you are working with MySQL or some other SQL database
server maybe you can write your own sql module that accomplishes that.

I would suggest taking a look at Max-All-Session as an example.
What you want to do is create a kind of sql module that will act as a
counter
for the traffic used by the user and perform actions based on that.


Regards,
Liran.

On 9/18/07, inverse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 9/18/07, Massimiliano Macrì [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  I'm trying to close the connection of a pre-paid mobile user, after he
  reached a limited amount of traffic (ie. 100 megabytes), the network
  device is a Cisco router.
  I've found may way to rate-limit the traffic bandwidth but not one to do
  this.
  Is radius the correct way to achieve this goal? It'all about vsa?

 Radius isn't supposed to terminate anything on its own, it just takes
 note of a user session history and validates logins.
 What you should do is to find some way of telling Cisco that a
 particular session is to be disconnected when a certain limit is
 reached. If your Cisco can output real time stats AND can accept
 external disconnection commands, then it might be possible to
 implement what you want.
 But honestly this process should be implemented completely inside the
 Cisco, and then, when a disconnect triggers, your Cisco should tell
 Radius about it. The opposite isn't bound to happen.

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Re: Limit users traffic quota via radius

2007-09-18 Thread Peter Nixon
On Tue 18 Sep 2007, Massimiliano Macrì wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm trying to close the connection of a pre-paid mobile user, after he
 reached a limited amount of traffic (ie. 100 megabytes), the network
 device is a Cisco router.
 I've found may way to rate-limit the traffic bandwidth but not one to do
 this.
 Is radius the correct way to achieve this goal? It'all about vsa?

You could easily accomplish this with a CoA/PoD request to the cisco when the 
user hits whatever limit...

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Re: Limit users traffic quota via radius

2007-09-18 Thread Willie Yeo

You need SNMP to disconnect the link, not Radius.

The only other way I can think of is that, if you can use an external  
program/script to check the quota from your accounting records, and  
then if that quota is reached, then send the program sends to SNMP to  
disconnect the user.


On 18/09/2007, at 6:34 PM, Massimiliano Macrì wrote:

I'm trying to close the connection of a pre-paid mobile user, after  
he reached a limited amount of traffic (ie. 100 megabytes), the  
network device is a Cisco router.
I've found may way to rate-limit the traffic bandwidth but not one  
to do this.

Is radius the correct way to achieve this goal? It'all about vsa?


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