Re: Error: "Discarding duplicate request..."

2010-09-16 Thread Phil Mayers

On 16/09/10 15:27, Mike Diggins wrote:


I am running NTLM_AUTH for mschap authentication with an MS AD at the back
end. I suppose that could be the culprit. If so, is upgrading FreeRadius
likely to resolve that (not knowing exactly what the problem is). Anything
I could configure at the FreeRadius end to make that work a bit better?


It would be a bit surprising for ntlm_auth to take that long, unless 
your AD controllers are very heavily loaded or are very distant. It 
takes ~30 milliseconds to auth a user/challenge pair in our installation.


You could try restarting winbind - maybe it's gone crazy or eaten a load 
of RAM or something.


If it is ntlm_auth, upgrading FreeRadius probably won't help (unless you 
take advantage of the SSL session resumption available in later versions 
to avoid doing some of the auths on re-auth)

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Re: Error: "Discarding duplicate request..."

2010-09-16 Thread Mike Diggins


I am running NTLM_AUTH for mschap authentication with an MS AD at the back 
end. I suppose that could be the culprit. If so, is upgrading FreeRadius 
likely to resolve that (not knowing exactly what the problem is). Anything 
I could configure at the FreeRadius end to make that work a bit better?


-Mike


On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Alan Buxey wrote:

2.1.3 is very old now , 2.1.9 is current and has many fixes over that - 
check its changelog .. this error message suggests that you've got a 
slow backend somewhere - be that ldap, sql or even a bit of perl


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From: "Mike Diggins" 
Date: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 16:22
Subject: Error: "Discarding duplicate request..."
To: "FreeRadius users mailing list" 

Our students have returned this week, and I've noticed a couple new
messages logged to my FreeRadius 2.1.3 server. When it happens, my
controllers fail over to the secondary Radius server. This has happened
a few times. My Radius servers are only lightly loaded, and only
configured to do authentication. No databases. Any idea what might be
causing this?

Sep 15 10:06:44 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 218 due to unfinished request 35236
Sep 15 10:07:01 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 219 due to unfinished request 35237
Sep 15 10:07:24 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 220 due to unfinished request 35239
Sep 15 10:07:41 prad02 radiusd[10632]: WARNING: Unresponsive child for
request 35239, in module  component
Sep 15 10:07:52 prad02 radiusd[10632]: WARNING: Unresponsive child for
request 35240, in module  component
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-7 port 32769 - ID: 173 due to unfinished request 35240
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 220 due to unfinished request 35239
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-7 port 32769 - ID: 173 due to unfinished request 35240
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 220 due to unfinished request 35239
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 221 due to unfinished request 35244
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 221 due to unfinished request 35244
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client FHSWLC-1 port 32768 - ID: 205 due to unfinished request 35245

-Mike




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Re: Error: "Discarding duplicate request..."

2010-09-15 Thread Alan Buxey
2.1.3 is very old now , 2.1.9 is current and has many fixes over that - check 
its changelog .. this error message suggests that you've got a slow backend 
somewhere - be that ldap, sql or even a bit of perl

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From: "Mike Diggins" 
Date: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 16:22
Subject: Error: "Discarding duplicate request..."
To: "FreeRadius users mailing list" 

Our students have returned this week, and I've noticed a couple new
messages logged to my FreeRadius 2.1.3 server. When it happens, my
controllers fail over to the secondary Radius server. This has happened
a few times. My Radius servers are only lightly loaded, and only
configured to do authentication. No databases. Any idea what might be
causing this?

Sep 15 10:06:44 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 218 due to unfinished request 35236
Sep 15 10:07:01 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 219 due to unfinished request 35237
Sep 15 10:07:24 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 220 due to unfinished request 35239
Sep 15 10:07:41 prad02 radiusd[10632]: WARNING: Unresponsive child for
request 35239, in module  component
Sep 15 10:07:52 prad02 radiusd[10632]: WARNING: Unresponsive child for
request 35240, in module  component
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-7 port 32769 - ID: 173 due to unfinished request 35240
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 220 due to unfinished request 35239
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-7 port 32769 - ID: 173 due to unfinished request 35240
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 220 due to unfinished request 35239
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 221 due to unfinished request 35244
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 221 due to unfinished request 35244
Sep 15 10:07:53 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client FHSWLC-1 port 32768 - ID: 205 due to unfinished request 35245

-Mike
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Re: Error: "Discarding duplicate request..."

2010-09-15 Thread Phil Mayers

On 15/09/10 16:20, Mike Diggins wrote:

Our students have returned this week, and I've noticed a couple new
messages logged to my FreeRadius 2.1.3 server. When it happens, my
controllers fail over to the secondary Radius server. This has happened
a few times. My Radius servers are only lightly loaded, and only
configured to do authentication. No databases. Any idea what might be
causing this?

Sep 15 10:06:44 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 218 due to unfinished request 35236
Sep 15 10:07:01 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 219 due to unfinished request 35237
Sep 15 10:07:24 prad02 radiusd[10632]: Discarding duplicate request from
client wlc-8 port 32769 - ID: 220 due to unfinished request 35239
Sep 15 10:07:41 prad02 radiusd[10632]: WARNING: Unresponsive child for
request 35239, in module  component
Sep 15 10:07:52 prad02 radiusd[10632]: WARNING: Unresponsive child for
request 35240, in module  component


Well, something is running too slowly here.

If you don't have ldap or sql configured, and aren't using "exec" to run 
any scripts, then the only other candidates I can think of are the 
"ntlm_auth" helper (if you're running mschap) or the various utmp 
modules, which are slow.

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RE: Error: Discarding duplicate request from client

2007-02-05 Thread eugene


Alan DeKok wrote:
>  The server is slow, usually because of a database that's slow.

I will examine the performance of the server.

> What have you configured the server to do when a session expires?

I have configured nothing specifically that I remember, but the server
also keeps track of accounting records. I'm expiring sessions every
24-hours so that my customers can view usage data in a 24-hour intervals
(haven't figured another way to do this).

Kind regards,
Eugene
 

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Subject: Re: Error: Discarding duplicate request from client

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> What does this mean?
>  
> "Error: Discarding duplicate request from client"

  The server is slow, usually because of a database that's slow.

  This happens when the server doesn't respond to the client within 5
seconds.   Since most requests should be handled in MUCH less than a
second, it shows a serious problem.

> I get this every time a session expires (Session-Timeout = 84600) 
> every 24-hours.

  What have you configured the server to do when a session expires?

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Re: Error: Discarding duplicate request from client

2007-02-04 Thread Alan DeKok
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What does this mean?
>  
> "Error: Discarding duplicate request from client"

  The server is slow, usually because of a database that's slow.

  This happens when the server doesn't respond to the client within 5
seconds.   Since most requests should be handled in MUCH less than a
second, it shows a serious problem.

> I get this every time a session expires (Session-Timeout = 84600) every
> 24-hours.

  What have you configured the server to do when a session expires?

  Alan DeKok.
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Re: Error: Discarding duplicate request

2006-07-28 Thread Phil Mayers

Aleksandar Stojilkovic wrote:
 


Aleksandar Stojilkovic wrote:

 Hello,

 


My log is full of this kind of errors:

 

Wed Jul 26 02:55:54 2006 : Error: Discarding duplicate request from 
client APMajur:2048 - ID: 27 due to unfinished request 11$

Don't post to the list in HTML. Awful HTML at that...

This is normally caused by a slowly-responding database (e.g. 
SQL, LDAP) or upstream proxy server. Make "the thing" respond 
quicker. Without more details as to your configuration, we 
can only guess, but maybe indices on key SQL tables and/or 
optimising the queries?

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Thanks. I suspected so I increased the timeout between requests on my NASes
from 200ms to 600ms. Everything worked fine for 3 days and then again the
same...


That won't solve the problem, and I'm not surprised it came back. You 
need to speed the backend up, not have the radius server wait longer.




Which computer configuration is recommended for my needs: Freeradius with
Mysql for about 1000 users that connects to network using wireless
connections?


Any reasonably modern computer e.g. ~1.6GHz >512Mb ram, reasonably fast 
disks to support the database, should be able to handle that load. It's 
likely a slowdown on the MySQL side.


Some possibilities:

 1. Are all your queries on tables which are indexed properly?
 2. Are you periodically emptying or archiving old data from the 
accounting table? Because if not, the time to insert accounting entries 
will just go up and up as the table grows.
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RE: Error: Discarding duplicate request

2006-07-27 Thread Aleksandar Stojilkovic
 

> 
> Aleksandar Stojilkovic wrote:
> >  Hello,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > My log is full of this kind of errors:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Wed Jul 26 02:55:54 2006 : Error: Discarding duplicate request from 
> > client APMajur:2048 - ID: 27 due to unfinished request 11$
> 
> Don't post to the list in HTML. Awful HTML at that...
> 
> This is normally caused by a slowly-responding database (e.g. 
> SQL, LDAP) or upstream proxy server. Make "the thing" respond 
> quicker. Without more details as to your configuration, we 
> can only guess, but maybe indices on key SQL tables and/or 
> optimising the queries?
> -

Thanks. I suspected so I increased the timeout between requests on my NASes
from 200ms to 600ms. Everything worked fine for 3 days and then again the
same...

Which computer configuration is recommended for my needs: Freeradius with
Mysql for about 1000 users that connects to network using wireless
connections?

Regards,
Aleksandar 

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Re: Error: Discarding duplicate request

2006-07-27 Thread Phil Mayers

Aleksandar Stojilkovic wrote:

 Hello,

 


My log is full of this kind of errors:

 

Wed Jul 26 02:55:54 2006 : Error: Discarding duplicate request from 
client APMajur:2048 - ID: 27 due to unfinished request 11$


Don't post to the list in HTML. Awful HTML at that...

This is normally caused by a slowly-responding database (e.g. SQL, LDAP) 
or upstream proxy server. Make "the thing" respond quicker. Without more 
details as to your configuration, we can only guess, but maybe indices 
on key SQL tables and/or optimising the queries?
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Re: Error: Discarding duplicate request

2006-07-27 Thread Francois-Xavier GAILLARD
Le Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 09:30:06PM +0200, Aleksandar Stojilkovic ecrivait:
> Ok, I'm new one to this... 
> 
> And O Yellow dots are matter of personal taste... And ow, do
> everyone a favor - keep your opinion for yourself... I am trying to get some
> help here

And if you really want some help you'd better do what Mike asked.


Regards,
Fox.
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Re: Error: Discarding duplicate request

2006-07-27 Thread Dennis Skinner
Aleksandar Stojilkovic wrote:
> Ok, I'm new one to this... 
> 
> And O Yellow dots are matter of personal taste... And ow, do
> everyone a favor - keep your opinion for yourself... I am trying to get some
> help here

Follow the rules and you are more likely to get help:

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RE: Error: Discarding duplicate request

2006-07-27 Thread Aleksandar Stojilkovic
Ok, I'm new one to this... 

And O Yellow dots are matter of personal taste... And ow, do
everyone a favor - keep your opinion for yourself... I am trying to get some
help here

 

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> Aleksandar Stojilkovic wrote:
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> >  Hello,
> >
> >  
> >
> > My log is full of this kind of errors:
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> 
> Owww, my eyes! Please don't post to mailing lists using HTML, 
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Re: Error: Discarding duplicate request

2006-07-27 Thread Mike Jakubik

Aleksandar Stojilkovic wrote:


 Hello,

 


My log is full of this kind of errors:



Owww, my eyes! Please don't post to mailing lists using HTML, and do 
everyone a favor, get rid off that yellow dot background from your email 
template.



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