RE: FreeRADIUS vs Aradial RADIUS
Hi Aldo, Posting this type of question to a support mailing list will generally result in some sort of all out war on why X and Y are different and why Y is better than X to do the same thing. A solution that involves radius will come with certain business model decisions that need to be considered. Along with most paid products from vendor X there is a certain expectation of support to the consumer for questions that can be found in the help files. Vendor X knows that they will need to house support staff to answer these questions and bury that cost in the upfront cost of the yearly maintenance fee at %x per year. You will get many promises and guarantees that will give you recourse if the solution does not meet your expectations or requirements (as long as it was agreed that product X will do what you ask) Products like FreeRadius are designed for companies and/or individuals that know the specific needs and requirements of their business model and how open source products fill that need. Companies that implement this type of solution will have individuals (usually) that have experience running open source software solutions and the difficulties that presented. Here too is a cost to the company, but it is a softer cost as they will most likely not need to hire a new administrator but leverage the existing skills present within their organization (such as the individuals on this list). The best course of action would be to determine your business needs from product X, the level of comfort you are looking for from a vendor/oss solution and a realistic determination of the in house skill at running product X. Once you have this criteria determined you can make an educated business decision on product X and why you would choose a specific vendor/producer of this product. That vendor/producer will be able to support you through the life cycle of the product and your satisfaction level will be met. Just my two cents... Jeff. --- Hello guys, I am a little bit scared how hard can be to deploy the FreeRADIUS, I found this in the internet: (aradial.com) this guys claim to have a very convenient and professional AAA server with a convenient price, does anybody here have experience with that "aradial radius server"? What would be the Pros and Cons of purchase it instead of have the FreeRADIUS one? Thanks again. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: FreeRADIUS vs Aradial RADIUS
Aldo Zavala wrote: > Hello guys, I am a little bit scared how hard can be to deploy the > FreeRADIUS, I found this in the internet: (aradial.com) this guys claim to > have a very convenient and professional AAA server with a convenient price, > does anybody here have experience with that "aradial radius server"? What > would be the Pros and Cons of purchase it instead of have the FreeRADIUS one? Don't ask us if we think Aradial is better than FreeRADIUS. We *know*. FreeRADIUS is better. However... Perhaps you could describe your needs in a little more detail. What are you trying to do with a RADIUS server? Why are you "scared" to deploy FreeRADIUS? FreeRADIUS is used in nearly 100,000 organizations, from 10 users to over 10 million users. It's the most widely used RADIUS server in the world. Everyone *else* thinks FreeRADIUS is fine. And if Aradial has 1/10 the installations of FreeRADIUS, I'll be very impressed. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: FreeRADIUS vs Aradial RADIUS
Thanks for the input Alan, definitely I am sure FreeRADIUS is much
better...what can be better than thousand of users, open source, free, and
feature rich as itself... I apologize to all for the Subject of my inquiry, I
wanted somebody to have tested Aradial and FreeRADIUS and tell me how
professional can be this "Aradial".
I am like scared because I am about to deploy a RADIUS AAA server in my
network, and I was looking into commercial options... such as: Huawei: $500,000
DLLS (yes... DAMN!) Juniper: $100,000 DLLS ( !!! )... and here is FreeRADIUS...
but I have no idea how to configure it... it like scares me because there are
no manual to tell me step by step how to configure it to fit my needs and to
feet my equipment
I am in a cellular network (CDMA2000), I need to create two domains in AAA, one
for EVDO and other internet services, the other for MMSC services, In order to
have the capability of adding different subscribers in AAA under different
domains, that way we can bill MMS and EVDO as separate services.
I downloaded the FreeRADIUS mysql port in one FreeBSD box, I have no idea how
to start configuring it there are many .conf files, and each config file is
huge..., you told me in another reply that I have to configure FreeRADIUS to
respond with the correct attributes that are needed by the PDSN, how can I know
that? The Huawei PDSN documentation I have only tells how to configure the NAS
with the "Huawei AAA" and dont say much about attributes can please tell
what you mean with "attributes that are needed by PDSN?" what are those
attributes and what they does?
This is the relevant part of the PDSN config that I think is related to RADIUS:
[conf]
#
interface Piif3/0/0
ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.255
#
interface Rpif3/0/0
ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.255
#
a11 enable
pcf 192.168.0.200 192.168.1.1 256 skey 1234567891234567
#
construct domain huawei
domain enable
domain AAAclientsig 1
domain address-group huawei 0 0 10.0.0.51 50
domain dns huawei 0 209.145.204.26 bip 209.145.204.20
#
charge enable
weekday 6 1
weekday 5 0
weekday 4 0
weekday 3 0
weekday 2 0
weekday 1 0
weekday 0 1
#
[/conf]
Thanks,
Aldo Zavala
Mobile (760) 556-5050
GTalk: aldo.zav...@gmail.com
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Re: FreeRADIUS vs Aradial RADIUS
Aldo Zavala wrote: > Thanks for the input Alan, definitely I am sure FreeRADIUS is much > better...what can be better than thousand of users, open source, free, and > feature rich as itself... I apologize to all for the Subject of my inquiry, I > wanted somebody to have tested Aradial and FreeRADIUS and tell me how > professional can be this "Aradial". This isn't the list to use for that question. > I am like scared because I am about to deploy a RADIUS AAA server in my > network, and I was looking into commercial options... such as: Huawei: > $500,000 DLLS (yes... DAMN!) Juniper: $100,000 DLLS ( !!! )... and here is > FreeRADIUS... but I have no idea how to configure it... it like scares me > because there are no manual to tell me step by step how to configure it to > fit my needs and to feet my equipment There are alternatives to expensive commercial solutions. And there are no guides for FreeRADIUS to tell you how to configure it for your system. There are 100,000 different systems using FreeRADIUS, and it is impossible to write guides for them all. > I am in a cellular network (CDMA2000), I need to create two domains in AAA, > one for EVDO and other internet services, the other for MMSC services, In > order to have the capability of adding different subscribers in AAA under > different domains, that way we can bill MMS and EVDO as separate services. This should be trivial. > I downloaded the FreeRADIUS mysql port in one FreeBSD box, I have no idea how > to start configuring it there are many .conf files, and each config file is > huge..., you told me in another reply that I have to configure FreeRADIUS to > respond with the correct attributes that are needed by the PDSN, how can I > know that? The Huawei PDSN documentation I have only tells how to configure > the NAS with the "Huawei AAA" and dont say much about attributes can > please tell what you mean with "attributes that are needed by PDSN?" what are > those attributes and what they does? The documentation for the RADIUS client should tell you. If the documentation doesn't tell you, call support and ask. If they don't help you, buy equipment from a vendor who will give you documentation for it. > This is the relevant part of the PDSN config that I think is related to > RADIUS: None of that is related to RADIUS. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: FreeRADIUS vs Aradial RADIUS
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 01:39:24PM -0700, Aldo Zavala wrote: > I am like scared because I am about to deploy a RADIUS AAA server > in my network, and I was looking into commercial options... such > as: Huawei: $500,000 DLLS (yes... DAMN!) Juniper: $100,000 DLLS ( !!! > )... and here is FreeRADIUS... but I have no idea how to configure > it... it like scares me because there are no manual to tell me step by > step how to configure it to fit my needs and to feet my equipment Pay someone who know's FreeRADIUS a smaller sum to set it up and teach you how to maintain it. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
