Re: dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin )
Amin wrote: May I join development team of dailup_admin. I wish not to be a competitor (as I am going to develop AAAadmin) but contributor to dailup_admin also. i wish you can tell me more of this dmin off the list? i can be a beta tester or something more than that, how can i be of help with this project? //milver - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin )
ok I will - Original Message - From: Milver S. Nisay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 12:33 AM Subject: Re: dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin ) Amin wrote: May I join development team of dailup_admin. I wish not to be a competitor (as I am going to develop AAAadmin) but contributor to dailup_admin also. i wish you can tell me more of this dmin off the list? i can be a beta tester or something more than that, how can i be of help with this project? //milver - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
RE: dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin )
I want to know where I can find more about the AAAadmin priject -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amit Gupta Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin ) ok I will - Original Message - From: Milver S. Nisay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 12:33 AM Subject: Re: dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin ) Amin wrote: May I join development team of dailup_admin. I wish not to be a competitor (as I am going to develop AAAadmin) but contributor to dailup_admin also. i wish you can tell me more of this dmin off the list? i can be a beta tester or something more than that, how can i be of help with this project? //milver - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin )
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: May I join development team of dailup_admin. I wish not to be a competitor (as I am going to develop AAAadmin) but contributor to dailup_admin also. There's no special elite development team which you need to join. You either send in patches or not. Simple as that. Amit Gupta sourceforge_id: amit_gupta - Original Message - From: Alan DeKok [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 8:44 AM Subject: dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin ) Gary McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize dialup_admin is in the radiusd CVS - I would have thought it would have been at least a separate CVS to make allowing others to work with it directly and not mess with the radiusd CVS - but I suppose it works the way it is... The intent is to distribute it as part of the server, so that people can use it to administer the server. I would think things like Realm configurations, SQL configurations, LDAP configurations, SNMP configurations and so one would be a nice addition to the system. That's probably a longer-term work item. Once Kostas finds time to put a web page on freeradius.org about the project, I expect to see a LOT more interest in it, and a lot more patches. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin )
issa rabba' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to know where I can find more about the AAAadmin priject The AAAadmin project is NOT part of FreeRADIUS. Everyone, stop posting AAAadmin questions to this list. It should have its own list, hosted elsewhere. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin )
find it at http://dmin.sourceforge.net - Original Message - From: "Alan DeKok" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:22 AM Subject: Re: dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin ) "issa rabba'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to know where I can find more about the AAAadmin priject The AAAadmin project is NOT part of FreeRADIUS. Everyone, stop posting AAAadmin questions to this list. It should have its own list, hosted elsewhere. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004
Re: dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin )
May I join development team of dailup_admin. I wish not to be a competitor (as I am going to develop AAAadmin) but contributor to dailup_admin also. Amit Gupta sourceforge_id: amit_gupta - Original Message - From: Alan DeKok [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 8:44 AM Subject: dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin ) Gary McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize dialup_admin is in the radiusd CVS - I would have thought it would have been at least a separate CVS to make allowing others to work with it directly and not mess with the radiusd CVS - but I suppose it works the way it is... The intent is to distribute it as part of the server, so that people can use it to administer the server. I would think things like Realm configurations, SQL configurations, LDAP configurations, SNMP configurations and so one would be a nice addition to the system. That's probably a longer-term work item. Once Kostas finds time to put a web page on freeradius.org about the project, I expect to see a LOT more interest in it, and a lot more patches. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
Kostas,
Hopefully this is still in the context of freeradius for this list...
See body of message below for responses:
- Original Message -
From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Gary McKinney wrote:
Hi Kostas,
It's nice to see Dialup_Admin can handle a large operation!
I realize dialup_admin is in the radiusd CVS - I would have thought it
would
have been at least a separate CVS to make allowing others to work with
it
directly and not mess with the radiusd CVS - but I suppose it works the
way
it is...
dialupadmin is completely separate from the freeradius server source. It's
on
it's own directory where users can play with it as much as they like
(provided
they have write cvs access). I don't see a reason for a separate cvs.
Changes or Features that would be nice?
1. You have the New Group section setup to allow both adding a new
group to
the system AND displaying and editing an existing group BUT you have to
go
to the Show Groups section to see the actual group names of existing
groups.
Would it not make more sense to have a display in the New Group section
that
displays existing groups so you don't have to bounce between the two
sections to get the name correct??? If you are using just a few groups
then
most likely you will remember the group names but if you have a fair
number
of groups to handle different situations (IE: Pre-Paid users, PPP users,
Wireless users, etc, etc) it would make life easier for the admin to
work
with the system.
The 'Show Group' button in the New Group page is intended as a path to
move to
the Group Administration page after you 've added a new group. In other
words:
Open 'New Group' - Add Group details - Press 'Create' - Press 'Show
Group' to
immediately go to the corresponding group administration page instead of
having
to insert the group name in the left frame ('Edit Group'). It's only a
shortcat,
nothing more. Though your idea of having a non editable drop down menu
with the
existing groups in the 'New Group' page is quite nice. I 'll look into it.
Yes - having a drop-down menu to select an existing name would be more
intuitive...
2. There currently does not exist any method (other than for NAS
Clients)
to setup the system or make changes to the system other than using a CLI
(command line interface) to make changes... IE: If you want to changes
Hints because of some additional requirement you currently have to
know
how to do so and then use the CLI to perform the task - would it not be
easier for someone to make changes to the system if there were a section
that allowed configuration changes (or initial setups) to the system
1. I personally require dialupadmin to be able to run on any server with
just
php support and radclient, not only on the server where freeradius is
running.
I see your point - if the dialup_admin is running on a different box it gets
a little more complicated to change the configuration files and issue the
restart Had not thought of that since I run both on the same box...
2. The language used in the text files is quite complicated (which means
corresponding pages will need a lot of development and will be equally
complicated) and user configurations are infinite. The pages would
probably be able to only support a small part of those configurations
unless
they became even more complicated. If you follow the list archives there
are
cases were per user patches for the server are required for specific
setups.
Just imagine a similar scenario for dialupadmin!
I had envisioned more of a initial starting point - somelthing to get people
started in the configurations as I noticed in the list archives the same
types of issues in configuring the freeradius system (seems most want to
drop in an go without RTFM first [grin]). I suppose the same thing could be
accomplished by writing HOW-TOs in detail for the different types of
configureation settings...
3. An initial setup means configuring not only freeradius but also other
components (ldap or sql installations etc).
I had only thought for the freeradius configs... the others are outside the
scope of what I had envisioned...
4. You don't require an administrator to run sql queries each time he
wants to
go through the accounting of a user, but you DO require him to be able to
setup
the system. This is server software, i assume a minimal user technical
level.
Hopefully the technical level is such that a person capable of installing an
OS (not Windows) is capable of understanding and implementing freeradius and
dialup_admin [grin]...
I would think things like Realm configurations, SQL configurations, LDAP
configurations, SNMP configurations and so one would be a nice addition
to
the system. It is not hard to have PHP scripts that generate the
required
Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Gary McKinney wrote:
Kostas,
Hopefully this is still in the context of freeradius for this list...
dialupadmin is a part of freeradius so i think it is.
See body of message below for responses:
- Original Message -
From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Gary McKinney wrote:
Hi Kostas,
It's nice to see Dialup_Admin can handle a large operation!
I realize dialup_admin is in the radiusd CVS - I would have thought it
would
have been at least a separate CVS to make allowing others to work with
it
directly and not mess with the radiusd CVS - but I suppose it works the
way
it is...
dialupadmin is completely separate from the freeradius server source. It's
on
it's own directory where users can play with it as much as they like
(provided
they have write cvs access). I don't see a reason for a separate cvs.
Changes or Features that would be nice?
1. You have the New Group section setup to allow both adding a new
group to
the system AND displaying and editing an existing group BUT you have to
go
to the Show Groups section to see the actual group names of existing
groups.
Would it not make more sense to have a display in the New Group section
that
displays existing groups so you don't have to bounce between the two
sections to get the name correct??? If you are using just a few groups
then
most likely you will remember the group names but if you have a fair
number
of groups to handle different situations (IE: Pre-Paid users, PPP users,
Wireless users, etc, etc) it would make life easier for the admin to
work
with the system.
The 'Show Group' button in the New Group page is intended as a path to
move to
the Group Administration page after you 've added a new group. In other
words:
Open 'New Group' - Add Group details - Press 'Create' - Press 'Show
Group' to
immediately go to the corresponding group administration page instead of
having
to insert the group name in the left frame ('Edit Group'). It's only a
shortcat,
nothing more. Though your idea of having a non editable drop down menu
with the
existing groups in the 'New Group' page is quite nice. I 'll look into it.
Yes - having a drop-down menu to select an existing name would be more
intuitive...
2. There currently does not exist any method (other than for NAS
Clients)
to setup the system or make changes to the system other than using a CLI
(command line interface) to make changes... IE: If you want to changes
Hints because of some additional requirement you currently have to
know
how to do so and then use the CLI to perform the task - would it not be
easier for someone to make changes to the system if there were a section
that allowed configuration changes (or initial setups) to the system
1. I personally require dialupadmin to be able to run on any server with
just
php support and radclient, not only on the server where freeradius is
running.
I see your point - if the dialup_admin is running on a different box it gets
a little more complicated to change the configuration files and issue the
restart Had not thought of that since I run both on the same box...
2. The language used in the text files is quite complicated (which means
corresponding pages will need a lot of development and will be equally
complicated) and user configurations are infinite. The pages would
probably be able to only support a small part of those configurations
unless
they became even more complicated. If you follow the list archives there
are
cases were per user patches for the server are required for specific
setups.
Just imagine a similar scenario for dialupadmin!
I had envisioned more of a initial starting point - somelthing to get people
started in the configurations as I noticed in the list archives the same
types of issues in configuring the freeradius system (seems most want to
drop in an go without RTFM first [grin]). I suppose the same thing could be
accomplished by writing HOW-TOs in detail for the different types of
configureation settings...
In any case any initial connfiguration procedures are more suited for the
freeradius server, not dialupadmin. Though i prefer having complete,detailed
documentation for how the system works, rather than providing initial
configuration scripts. Especially in the case of freeradius i am quite certain
that providing such functionality would just move discussion on the mailing
lists from 'how can i do this?' to 'i want to do that and the install script
does not help. Fix it!'
3. An initial setup means configuring not only freeradius but also other
components (ldap or sql installations etc).
I had only thought for the freeradius configs... the others are outside
dialup_admin (was Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin )
Gary McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize dialup_admin is in the radiusd CVS - I would have thought it would have been at least a separate CVS to make allowing others to work with it directly and not mess with the radiusd CVS - but I suppose it works the way it is... The intent is to distribute it as part of the server, so that people can use it to administer the server. I would think things like Realm configurations, SQL configurations, LDAP configurations, SNMP configurations and so one would be a nice addition to the system. That's probably a longer-term work item. Once Kostas finds time to put a web page on freeradius.org about the project, I expect to see a LOT more interest in it, and a lot more patches. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
are you currently using dailupadmin - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:46 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: are you currently using dailupadmin Actually i am the writer. - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:46 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
RE: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
Yeah, dialupadmin needs some work, but it's good as it is, too. -Original Message- From: Kostas Kalevras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
RE: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
Anywhere I can find some good screen shots along with functionality of dialup admin? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:freeradius- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 8:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New Opensource project-AAAadmin Yeah, dialupadmin needs some work, but it's good as it is, too. -Original Message- From: Kostas Kalevras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
RE: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Rick Smith wrote: Yeah, dialupadmin needs some work, but it's good as it is, too. Could you please let me know of the features you 'd like to see in dialupadmin? -Original Message- From: Kostas Kalevras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
RE: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Anson Rinesmith wrote: Anywhere I can find some good screen shots along with functionality of dialup admin? Not at this moment. I 'll try to create a few ones though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:freeradius- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 8:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New Opensource project-AAAadmin Yeah, dialupadmin needs some work, but it's good as it is, too. -Original Message- From: Kostas Kalevras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
Where's the DialupAdmin project's homepage? Why has it not been added to FreeRadius' related projects page? - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:46 PM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
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Thor Spruyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where's the DialupAdmin project's homepage? It *should* go into: http://www.freeradius.org/dialup_admin/ It's distributed with the server, so it should be hosted on the servers web pages. Why has it not been added to FreeRadius' related projects page? Time. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
Kostas, Are you also a user too??? [grin]... Kidding aside - is there some place where the dialup_admin is being maintained (CVS) and where freatures can be added to the code (not to mention bringing the code up to current levels) ??? BTW: I have not setup the database side completely yet but you can see the latest version of dialup_admin at the following url: http://www.ewcllc.net/dialup - like I said, I have not completely set this up yet but it is better than plain ole screen shots [grin]... gm... - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: are you currently using dailupadmin Actually i am the writer. - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:46 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Ant-Virus Scanner] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Ant-Virus Scanner] - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Gary McKinney wrote: Kostas, Are you also a user too??? [grin]... Yes, dialupadmin is used in both my university (ntua.gr/15000 users) and in the greek school network (sch.gr/15 users). In the latter there are around 100 people using it (delegated user administration) with no problems. I wrote dialupadmin cause i needed it. Kidding aside - is there some place where the dialup_admin is being maintained (CVS) and where freatures can be added to the code (not to mention bringing the code up to current levels) ??? Have you tried freeradius CVS? dialup_admin is RIGHT there. And please, when someone speaks about bringing the code to current levels,adding features,making it stable,wearing dialupadmin a nice skirt can you please be specific? I am quite tired of people criticizing dialupadmin or any other piece of freeradius without specifying what they think is wrong or lacking. Obviously the last one was not something personal, it's just that i am getting quite tired of criticism without any suggestions. BTW: I have not setup the database side completely yet but you can see the latest version of dialup_admin at the following url: http://www.ewcllc.net/dialup - like I said, I have not completely set this up yet but it is better than plain ole screen shots [grin]... That's quite nice. gm... - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: are you currently using dailupadmin Actually i am the writer. - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:46 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Ant-Virus Scanner] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Ant-Virus Scanner] - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list
Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Nick Hall wrote: Only problem I have with dialup admin is improper PHP coding techniques. If error_reporting is set to E_ALL, each page spits out about 20 PHP notices. Maybe this is a PHP4 issue and dialup admin was originally designed for PHP3? No dialupadmin is written for PHP4, the php3 extensions are for historical reasons (and should probably go away). OK i 've enabled error_reporting and all the notices are about undefined variables or constants. Apart from generally not using superglobals is there any other problem you see in dialupadmin? Also, online users page dies with an error. Fatal error: Cannot redeclare xlat() (previously declared in /usr/local/dialupadmin/lib/xlat.php3:2) in /usr/local/dialupadmin/lib/xlat.php3 on line 2. This has been fixed in cvs. I would love to go through each page updating code (shoot, I have tried and gave up due to time constraints). Now I don't think reinventing the wheel is the best idea but I do think a code rewrite utilizing updated techniques wouldn't be the worst idea. I'd definitely help out there. My .02 -Nick On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:39:59 +0200, Thor Spruyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where's the DialupAdmin project's homepage? Why has it not been added to FreeRadius' related projects page? - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:46 PM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Thor Spruyt wrote: Where's the DialupAdmin project's homepage? Apart from the sourceforge page www.sourceforge.net/projects/dialup-admin which is heavily outdated, none at the moment. Why has it not been added to FreeRadius' related projects page? Lack of time to write a nice document. - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:46 PM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
Kostas, Hope you don't take my comments the wrong way. I'm very grateful of your work on dialup_admin! I will be using it in production. The main point of my last post was to spark interest in hacking dialup_admin in a vague kind of way :S. IMO it would be nice to make the code more modular. I think the reason alot of people are reinventing the wheel is because dialup_admin code is frankly hard to jump in on and lacks comments. My .02 -Nick On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:59:48 +0300 (EEST), Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Thor Spruyt wrote: Where's the DialupAdmin project's homepage? Apart from the sourceforge page www.sourceforge.net/projects/dialup-admin which is heavily outdated, none at the moment. Why has it not been added to FreeRadius' related projects page? Lack of time to write a nice document. - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:46 PM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Nick Hall wrote: Kostas, Hope you don't take my comments the wrong way. I'm very grateful of your work on dialup_admin! I will be using it in production. No, don't worry about that. The main point of my last post was to spark interest in hacking dialup_admin in a vague kind of way :S. IMO it would be nice to make the code more modular. I think the reason alot of people are reinventing the wheel is because dialup_admin code is frankly hard to jump in on and lacks comments. I 've tried to make it as modular as i can. If you check out the directory structure that will be quite obvious. The only things i cannot make modular are the sql queries (this is an interface for the freeradius server, not a general one) and separating html from php code (t much work for no real benefit in my opinion) although that has been done were it had a point. As for comments, there aren't a lot that's true. Though i do believe the dialupadmin structure can make things rather simple. What's your definition of modular? My .02 -Nick On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:59:48 +0300 (EEST), Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Thor Spruyt wrote: Where's the DialupAdmin project's homepage? Apart from the sourceforge page www.sourceforge.net/projects/dialup-admin which is heavily outdated, none at the moment. Why has it not been added to FreeRadius' related projects page? Lack of time to write a nice document. - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:46 PM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more features that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations. WIll you join me??? I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not just add the extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one? expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my needs and is in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for a new one? Amit - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: Hi friends , I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin. Its URL is dmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your expectations from such solution. I also invite you to join development. What's wrong with dialupadmin? Amit Gupta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -- Kostas Kalevras Network Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Technical University of Athens, Greece Work Phone: +30 210 7721861 'Go back to the shadow' Gandalf - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
Hi Kostas, It's nice to see Dialup_Admin can handle a large operation! I realize dialup_admin is in the radiusd CVS - I would have thought it would have been at least a separate CVS to make allowing others to work with it directly and not mess with the radiusd CVS - but I suppose it works the way it is... Changes or Features that would be nice? 1. You have the New Group section setup to allow both adding a new group to the system AND displaying and editing an existing group BUT you have to go to the Show Groups section to see the actual group names of existing groups. Would it not make more sense to have a display in the New Group section that displays existing groups so you don't have to bounce between the two sections to get the name correct??? If you are using just a few groups then most likely you will remember the group names but if you have a fair number of groups to handle different situations (IE: Pre-Paid users, PPP users, Wireless users, etc, etc) it would make life easier for the admin to work with the system. 2. There currently does not exist any method (other than for NAS Clients) to setup the system or make changes to the system other than using a CLI (command line interface) to make changes... IE: If you want to changes Hints because of some additional requirement you currently have to know how to do so and then use the CLI to perform the task - would it not be easier for someone to make changes to the system if there were a section that allowed configuration changes (or initial setups) to the system I would think things like Realm configurations, SQL configurations, LDAP configurations, SNMP configurations and so one would be a nice addition to the system. It is not hard to have PHP scripts that generate the required files and issue a kill -HUP radiusd PID to activate the changes. This capability makes it a full featured front-end to the freeradius system instead of just a works for specific application front-end - and as you said you wrote it because you needed it. I suspect the basis for the system was for you specific purpose - nothing wrong with that but I think others are using different configurations and it could make their administration of the system easier if it had a more flexible capability. 3. I am curious - why have all of the settings for NAS attributes in the New User section AND in the New Group section - would it not make it cleaner overall to just have the NAS attributes contained in just the groups section and if there is a specific requirement for an individual user to have specfic NAS attribute requirements just have a group of their own??? It seems to me it is more confusing to someone new to the freeradius system to have both locations where NAS attributes can be set instead of just the requirement that the user have a unique group (the group name could be the username) for NAS attributes and all other users that have the same NAS attribute requirements be in the same group with thost NAS attributes identified? You wanted to know some specifics [grin]... As for the warning message about variables not being defined - current thinking is if there is a variable that is checked within the body of a script but is not passed to the script you should at least test to see if the variable exists and if not define the varible with a default value - the reason is to preclude someone attempting to hack the script ( of course you should also test the variables passed to the script to make sure the values being passed are within the range you expect as well and take appropriate action if it is not - there is currently a buffer overflow in the maximum memory used section of PHP prior to the current release that can allow a hacker total access to the computer! - this was just released in the last few days in the security mailing lists I belong to... ). Now - having said all that I think you did a pretty good job on the dialup_admin overall!!! I read a posting here about modularizing the program to allow easier modification - that would be a nice thing but not totally a requirement... It does need better documentation but what program does not??? More comments in the body of the scripts would be a nice addition just so someone can follow the thought-process as to why things are done the way they are... Please take this in the manner in which it is intended - I am not flaming the program at all!!! gm... - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Gary McKinney wrote: Kostas, Are you also a user too??? [grin]... Yes, dialupadmin is used in both my university (ntua.gr/15000 users) and in the greek school network (sch.gr/15 users). In the latter there are around 100 people using it (delegated user administration) with no problems. I wrote dialupadmin cause i needed it. Kidding aside
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the requirement that the user have a unique group (the group name could be the username) for NAS attributes and all other users that have the same NAS attribute requirements be in the same group with thost NAS attributes identified? First of all group support was a feature added on the road, not something present from the start. Also ldap does not require such a configuration. Finally, the current structure goes from general to specific: You can change settings for a whole group, or you can change settings for a specific user if that's what you require. I personally like that logic. It could be only me though... You wanted to know some specifics [grin]... As for the warning message about variables not being defined - current thinking is if there is a variable that is checked within the body of a script but is not passed to the script you should at least test to see if the variable exists and if not define the varible with a default value - the reason is to preclude someone attempting to hack the script ( of course you should also test the variables passed to the script to make sure the values being passed are within the range you expect as well and take appropriate action if it is not - there is currently a buffer overflow in the maximum memory used section of PHP prior to the current release that can allow a hacker total access to the computer! - this was just released in the last few days in the security mailing lists I belong to... ). I am aware of the security risks. I try to make sure that users cannot do 'clever' things with the system. I am currently going through the code and fixing a few open issues when sessions are used. In general there are only very few user supplied variables, the rest are unset before being created for the first time (so that the user can't pass them through a variable in the url) and these user supplied variables are checked that they are of a correct form. And i will be going through all the code in the next days to do one more check. Now - having said all that I think you did a pretty good job on the dialup_admin overall!!! That's good to hear. I read a posting here about modularizing the program to allow easier modification - that would be a nice thing but not totally a requirement... As i answered to that posting, i think it's quite modular already. If you think otherwise please explain. It does need better documentation but what program does not??? There is a readme and a howto and i try to keep the configuration files as commented as i can. In any case that's an area were help is highly needed. More comments in the body of the scripts would be a nice addition just so someone can follow the thought-process as to why things are done the way they are... I agree Please take this in the manner in which it is intended - I am not flaming the program at all!!! I don't think you are. gm... - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Gary McKinney wrote: Kostas, Are you also a user too??? [grin]... Yes, dialupadmin is used in both my university (ntua.gr/15000 users) and in the greek school network (sch.gr/15 users). In the latter there are around 100 people using it (delegated user administration) with no problems. I wrote dialupadmin cause i needed it. Kidding aside - is there some place where the dialup_admin is being maintained (CVS) and where freatures can be added to the code (not to mention bringing the code up to current levels) ??? Have you tried freeradius CVS? dialup_admin is RIGHT there. And please, when someone speaks about bringing the code to current levels,adding features,making it stable,wearing dialupadmin a nice skirt can you please be specific? I am quite tired of people criticizing dialupadmin or any other piece of freeradius without specifying what they think is wrong or lacking. Obviously the last one was not something personal, it's just that i am getting quite tired of criticism without any suggestions. BTW: I have not setup the database side completely yet but you can see the latest version of dialup_admin at the following url: http://www.ewcllc.net/dialup - like I said, I have not completely set this up yet but it is better than plain ole screen shots [grin]... That's quite nice. gm... - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote: are you currently using dailupadmin Actually i am the writer. - Original Message - From: Kostas Kalevras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5
