[Freesurfer] Freesurfer output question

2005-09-26 Thread Michele Perry
Hi,
I have some questions (sent to me by someone else, actually) about
freesurfer output from make_cortex_table.csh.

1.  Do integrated_rectified_mean_curvature 
integrated_rectified_Gaussian_curvature refer to the shape/arc of the
surface of the cortex either before or after inflation?   Or are they
descriptors of the distribution of the individual thickness measures... as
might indicate if the measures were normally distributed (within an area)
or skewed to the left or right?

2.  Does the num_of_vertices represent the number of measures of thicknesses
made for that region?

3. Would be possible to examine the distribution of thickness measures to
identify focal regions of skewing... as might occur if there were
micro-foci of atrophy within some areas?   For example, values for the
thicknesses corresponding to the 10th, 25th, 50th, 75th, and 90th
percentile values within an area?   Or even a median thickness, in
addition to the mean?


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Re: [Freesurfer] mgz format

2005-09-26 Thread Bruce Fischl

nothing unless you specify -conform.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Fornito, Alexander 
wrote:



Hi,
Just wandering if someone could tell me what converting to mgh or mgz actually 
does to the image. COR changed it to 256x256x256, 1mm3, what happens with 
mgz/mgh?
Thanks,
Alex

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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer output question

2005-09-26 Thread Bruce Fischl

1. Of whatever surface you specify (white by default I think).
2. Yes.
3. Easy enough to do in matlab I guess.

Bruce


On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Michele Perry wrote:


Hi,
I have some questions (sent to me by someone else, actually) about
freesurfer output from make_cortex_table.csh.

1.  Do integrated_rectified_mean_curvature 
integrated_rectified_Gaussian_curvature refer to the shape/arc of the
surface of the cortex either before or after inflation?   Or are they
descriptors of the distribution of the individual thickness measures... as
might indicate if the measures were normally distributed (within an area)
or skewed to the left or right?

2.  Does the num_of_vertices represent the number of measures of thicknesses
made for that region?

3. Would be possible to examine the distribution of thickness measures to
identify focal regions of skewing... as might occur if there were
micro-foci of atrophy within some areas?   For example, values for the
thicknesses corresponding to the 10th, 25th, 50th, 75th, and 90th
percentile values within an area?   Or even a median thickness, in
addition to the mean?


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[Freesurfer] Scuba/recon-all

2005-09-26 Thread Satrajit Ghosh
I see the following statement printed several times through the recon-all
processing and when I try to manipulate images in scuba. Is this something I
can safely ignore?

INFO: Volume /tmp/mritotal_5799/nu_8_dxyz.mnc cannot be found.

Thanks,

Satra

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[Freesurfer] make_average_subject error?

2005-09-26 Thread Brian Schweinsburg, Ph.D.
Hi Folks,

I tried running the latest make_average_subject script (and the
make_average_surface/volume scripts) using the expected command line syntax
and after hitting enter it immediately exits to the csh without error, but
does not produce anything.

make_average_subject --subjects SC010 SC011 SC012 ...

I am running the latested dev release with Fedora Core 4.

Any ideas as to the problem?
Brian



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Re: [Freesurfer] make_average_subject error?

2005-09-26 Thread Doug Greve


try running it with --debug and send us the output

Brian Schweinsburg, Ph.D. wrote:


Hi Folks,

I tried running the latest make_average_subject script (and the
make_average_surface/volume scripts) using the expected command line syntax
and after hitting enter it immediately exits to the csh without error, but
does not produce anything.

make_average_subject --subjects SC010 SC011 SC012 ...

I am running the latested dev release with Fedora Core 4.

Any ideas as to the problem?
Brian



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Re: [Freesurfer] make_average_subject error?

2005-09-26 Thread Brian Schweinsburg, Ph.D.
I ran it with make_average_subject --debug \
--subjects SC010 SC012 ...

I also tried it with --echo. It provides no output.

I checked the script and it is executable. I looked through the code and
everything seems reasonable given my system except the part that says:
if person = brian; exit 0

Brian

 From: Doug Greve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:40:48 -0400
 To: Brian Schweinsburg, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] make_average_subject error?
 
 
 try running it with --debug and send us the output
 
 Brian Schweinsburg, Ph.D. wrote:
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 I tried running the latest make_average_subject script (and the
 make_average_surface/volume scripts) using the expected command line syntax
 and after hitting enter it immediately exits to the csh without error, but
 does not produce anything.
 
 make_average_subject --subjects SC010 SC011 SC012 ...
 
 I am running the latested dev release with Fedora Core 4.
 
 Any ideas as to the problem?
 Brian
 
 
 
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[Freesurfer] anatomical stats

2005-09-26 Thread Fornito, Alexander

HI,
I'm finishing a study I completed using an older version of freesurfer 
(20040218), and have noticed that I get different values for surface area and 
grey matter volume when using mris_anatomical_stats for my labels depending on 
whether I use the mris_anatomical_stats that it is part of this older 
distribution, or the one packaged as part of the newer dev release (20050905).
I noticed on a previous posting that Doug Greve identified an error with 
respect to how surface area was calculated (I've included it below) and was 
wandering if this is the reason for the discrepancy.
Should I believe the figures calculated using the newer version, or will this 
also be associated with errors, since the surfaces were generated using the 
older version?
Thanks,
Alex


I have just fixed a bug in FreeSurfer that involves computing the area
 of some surface structures. For those of you who care, this was a bug
 that emerged after converting our surface meshes from quadralaterals
 to triangles. This change was made a few years ago.

 This change should have little effect on the reconstruction. It will
 have an effect on programs that report the area of subsections of
 cortex (but not total cortical area). At least three such programs
 that are affected are: mris_compute_overlap, mris_label_area, and
 mri_surfcluster. The bug causes the reported area to appear to be 1.5
 times what it really is.  For example, in mri_surfcluster, a cluster
 threshold of 300 mm^2 would actually be a threshold of 200 mm^2.

 For those in the NMR center, these three programs have been
 updated. For those outside, you can get these programs from

 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve

 New versions of freesurfer will, of course, have the update.

 Sorry for any inconvenience.

 doug


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