Re: [Freesurfer] mri_convert documentation error

2006-03-02 Thread Johannes Klein

Hi Doug,
Thanks for clarifying this. My data is in Nifti-Format and looks fine in 
FSLview, meaning that left is on the right-hand side of the screen and 
vice versa. There is no qform orientation information in the header. 
When I convert my data without --in_orientation LAS, it ends up looking 
the wrong way round in tkmedit. When I convert as in


mri_convert --in_orientation LAS mydata.nii 001.mgz

it looks alright again, i.e. left is on the right-hand side of the 
screen in tkmedit.
Now - having changed the orientation info, does that mean that I can 
rely on the lh.* surfaces truly being the left hemisphere, as long as I 
make sure that the 001.mgz input looks correct in tkmedit? Or is there 
some more intricate problem with the orientation info that I am missing?

Thanks again,
Johannes

Doug Greve schrieb:


I think this has been fixed. BTW, be very careful changing the 
orientation describtion. Note that it is the description that is being 
chaanged, NOT the pixel data. If your pixel data were oriented one way 
and the description was correct, changing the description will make the 
description wrong.


doug



Johannes Klein wrote:


Hi folks,
There's a small bug in the online help for mri_convert I found when 
trying to get my input Nifti's left/right to match with freesurfer 
conventions.
When run without any parameters, the last paragraph describes the use 
of the --in-orientation switch. That must read --in_orientation 
(probably same for out-/out_).

Took me a while to figure that one out ;)
Cheers,
Johannes
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_convert documentation error

2006-03-02 Thread Doug Greve


I've recently changed the way we handle nifti to read and write both the 
qform and sform, so it should be (more) comptatible with fsl. If it 
"looks right" in tkmedit, then you have the geometry correct, and 
freesurfer will respect that. But you have to make sure that you know 
which side is left/right in your image, which is very difficult to do if 
you did not use a fiducial. The subject's left side should show up on 
the right side of the image in tkmedit. You may want to use mri_convert 
to convert from your dicom into nifti or mgz for further processing in 
freesurfer.


doug





Johannes Klein wrote:


Hi Doug,
Thanks for clarifying this. My data is in Nifti-Format and looks fine 
in FSLview, meaning that left is on the right-hand side of the screen 
and vice versa. There is no qform orientation information in the 
header. When I convert my data without --in_orientation LAS, it ends 
up looking the wrong way round in tkmedit. When I convert as in


mri_convert --in_orientation LAS mydata.nii 001.mgz

it looks alright again, i.e. left is on the right-hand side of the 
screen in tkmedit.
Now - having changed the orientation info, does that mean that I can 
rely on the lh.* surfaces truly being the left hemisphere, as long as 
I make sure that the 001.mgz input looks correct in tkmedit? Or is 
there some more intricate problem with the orientation info that I am 
missing?

Thanks again,
Johannes

Doug Greve schrieb:



I think this has been fixed. BTW, be very careful changing the 
orientation describtion. Note that it is the description that is 
being chaanged, NOT the pixel data. If your pixel data were oriented 
one way and the description was correct, changing the description 
will make the description wrong.


doug



Johannes Klein wrote:


Hi folks,
There's a small bug in the online help for mri_convert I found when 
trying to get my input Nifti's left/right to match with freesurfer 
conventions.
When run without any parameters, the last paragraph describes the 
use of the --in-orientation switch. That must read --in_orientation 
(probably same for out-/out_).

Took me a while to figure that one out ;)
Cheers,
Johannes
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Re: [Freesurfer] problem in curv surface

2006-03-02 Thread Doug Greve



recon-all -s maryam -finalsurfs



Reza Rajimehr wrote:


Hi,

I have recently reconstructed a brain using "recon-all -autorecon" in dev
environment. First I converted anatomicals to mgz format and then I ran
the following commands sequentially:

recon-all -subjid subject -autorecon1 -legacy
recon-all -subjid subject -autorecon2

The reconstruction has been done successfully without error. The inflated
surface is almost fine (without topological defects) but the "curv"
surfaces (curv.lh and curv.rh) do not look normal. They have only red
boundaries (sulci); the green boundaries (gyri) are absent. The sulc
surfaces look fine though.

on machine monkeylove

source /usr/local/freesurfer/nmr-dev-env

setenv SUBJECTS_DIR /space/ship/3/users/reza/mvp022106/3danat

which recon-all
/usr/local/freesurfer/dev/bin//recon-all

cd /space/ship/3/users/reza/mvp022106/MYSTUDY

Thanks for any comments,
Reza


Reza Rajimehr, MD

NMR Athinoula A. Martinos Center
Department of Radiology
Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH)
Building 149, 13th St.
Charlestown, MA 02129

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[Freesurfer] autorecon3 parcellations and corresponding lists of labels

2006-03-02 Thread Eli Diamond

Hello,

I'm hoping someone can help me clear something up about the different 
parcellations now performed as part of autorecon3.


In tksurfer, when I select file-->Label-->Import Annotation, I can choose 
from (for the lh, for example) lh.aparc.annot or lh.aparc.a2005s.annot. I 
understand that one of these is the "old" parcellation and one is the 
newer one done in (for the moment) the dev version of Freesurfer.


My question is which of the aseg.mgz's correspond to which parcellation, 
and also which list in FREESUFER_HOME contains the list of labels created 
by which parcellation. When I look in $FREESURFER_HOME, there are several 
texts with numbered lists of cortical and subcortical areas.


Having the correct "match" between aseg and $FREESURFER_HOME/ seems 
to be necessary in the sense that, to load a segmentation in tkmedit, the 
aseg volume that is loaded must correspond to the appropriate color list 
in order to get the segmentation labeled properly. My experience has been 
that aparc+aseg.mgz and FreeSurferColorLUT.txt match one another and that 
these correspond to the annotation lh.aparc.annot when loaded upon a 
surface.


It has also been my experience that the labels/regions in 
lh.aparc.a2005s.annot correspond to the list contained in 
$FREESURFER_HOME/Simple_surface_labels2005.txt. I am hoping someone can 
help me figure out which aseg volume, if any, contains this particular 
parcellation. As it happens, my area of interest is the superior temporal 
gyrus, which is subdivided in this aparc.a2005s.annot but not in the 
aparc.annot, and because I will be extracting functional and volumetric 
data about these ROI, I would like to work with as small anatomical areas 
as possible.


The way that this ROI extraction works (as the scripts I am using are set 
up) involves inputing a particular aseg volume and the number of a given 
label as it appears on the appropriate corresponding list, and I have been 
unable to find a way to use the cortical areas identified in the 
aparc.a2005s.annot annotation.


Sorry this email is long, and likely not using the most accurate 
terminology, but I hope I got my question across. Thanks so much!


Best,
Eli Diamond


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Re: [Freesurfer] autorecon3 parcellations and corresponding lists of labels

2006-03-02 Thread Doug Greve


So you want aparc.a2005s mapped into the volume? You can use 
mri_label2vol. It will take an annotation as an input. You can also use 
it to map directly to functional space.




Eli Diamond wrote:


Hello,

I'm hoping someone can help me clear something up about the different 
parcellations now performed as part of autorecon3.


In tksurfer, when I select file-->Label-->Import Annotation, I can 
choose from (for the lh, for example) lh.aparc.annot or 
lh.aparc.a2005s.annot. I understand that one of these is the "old" 
parcellation and one is the newer one done in (for the moment) the dev 
version of Freesurfer.


My question is which of the aseg.mgz's correspond to which 
parcellation, and also which list in FREESUFER_HOME contains the list 
of labels created by which parcellation. When I look in 
$FREESURFER_HOME, there are several texts with numbered lists of 
cortical and subcortical areas.


Having the correct "match" between aseg and $FREESURFER_HOME/ 
seems to be necessary in the sense that, to load a segmentation in 
tkmedit, the aseg volume that is loaded must correspond to the 
appropriate color list in order to get the segmentation labeled 
properly. My experience has been that aparc+aseg.mgz and 
FreeSurferColorLUT.txt match one another and that these correspond to 
the annotation lh.aparc.annot when loaded upon a surface.


It has also been my experience that the labels/regions in 
lh.aparc.a2005s.annot correspond to the list contained in 
$FREESURFER_HOME/Simple_surface_labels2005.txt. I am hoping someone 
can help me figure out which aseg volume, if any, contains this 
particular parcellation. As it happens, my area of interest is the 
superior temporal gyrus, which is subdivided in this 
aparc.a2005s.annot but not in the aparc.annot, and because I will be 
extracting functional and volumetric data about these ROI, I would 
like to work with as small anatomical areas as possible.


The way that this ROI extraction works (as the scripts I am using are 
set up) involves inputing a particular aseg volume and the number of a 
given label as it appears on the appropriate corresponding list, and I 
have been unable to find a way to use the cortical areas identified in 
the aparc.a2005s.annot annotation.


Sorry this email is long, and likely not using the most accurate 
terminology, but I hope I got my question across. Thanks so much!


Best,
Eli Diamond


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Re: [Freesurfer] autorecon3 parcellations and corresponding lists of labels

2006-03-02 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Eli,

the .annot files have the proper colortable embedded in them (and have for 
a long time), so they'll 
never be wrong. For the aseg just use the FreeSurferColorLUT.txt file.


cheers,
Bruce

On 
Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Eli Diamond wrote:



Hello,

I'm hoping someone can help me clear something up about the different 
parcellations now performed as part of autorecon3.


In tksurfer, when I select file-->Label-->Import Annotation, I can choose 
from (for the lh, for example) lh.aparc.annot or lh.aparc.a2005s.annot. I 
understand that one of these is the "old" parcellation and one is the newer 
one done in (for the moment) the dev version of Freesurfer.


My question is which of the aseg.mgz's correspond to which parcellation, and 
also which list in FREESUFER_HOME contains the list of labels created by 
which parcellation. When I look in $FREESURFER_HOME, there are several texts 
with numbered lists of cortical and subcortical areas.


Having the correct "match" between aseg and $FREESURFER_HOME/ seems to 
be necessary in the sense that, to load a segmentation in tkmedit, the aseg 
volume that is loaded must correspond to the appropriate color list in order 
to get the segmentation labeled properly. My experience has been that 
aparc+aseg.mgz and FreeSurferColorLUT.txt match one another and that these 
correspond to the annotation lh.aparc.annot when loaded upon a surface.


It has also been my experience that the labels/regions in 
lh.aparc.a2005s.annot correspond to the list contained in 
$FREESURFER_HOME/Simple_surface_labels2005.txt. I am hoping someone can help 
me figure out which aseg volume, if any, contains this particular 
parcellation. As it happens, my area of interest is the superior temporal 
gyrus, which is subdivided in this aparc.a2005s.annot but not in the 
aparc.annot, and because I will be extracting functional and volumetric data 
about these ROI, I would like to work with as small anatomical areas as 
possible.


The way that this ROI extraction works (as the scripts I am using are set up) 
involves inputing a particular aseg volume and the number of a given label as 
it appears on the appropriate corresponding list, and I have been unable to 
find a way to use the cortical areas identified in the aparc.a2005s.annot 
annotation.


Sorry this email is long, and likely not using the most accurate terminology, 
but I hope I got my question across. Thanks so much!


Best,
Eli Diamond


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