[Freesurfer] FSL and freesurfer: combine runs in volume or on surface?

2010-01-19 Thread Agnieszka Burzynska

Dear all,
I am trying to figure out how to bring my fMRI data from FSL to the
freesurfer surface.

The way I understood it from the tutorial 3.0 Surface-based Group
Functional Analysis(
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/FslGroupFeat)

There are two possibilities of combining multiple runs per subject:
- using mris_preproc for each run and having runs as frames in the
lh.copex.mhg file
- running first gfeat in FSL and registering gfeat copes to fsaverage ( Runs
combined in a GFEAT within a Subject), which would result in 1-frame
lh.copex.mhg file

I wonder if it is possible to say which procedure is better/more sensitive?
Should the fmri data be non-smoothed before this step for both above
options?

Thank you!
Cheers,
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[Freesurfer] Fw: manually specifying design matrix

2010-01-19 Thread raka maitra
Hello

Sorry for reposting again.
Would really appreciate a feedback on the following mail.

Thanks in advance for your time
Raka



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From: raka maitra rakamai...@yahoo.com
To: Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 9:34:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] manually specifying design matrix


Thank you Doug.

I am trying to create a design matrix for repeated measures anova.

Lets say subjects A and B have been measured at sitting and standing positions.
As the same subjects have been measured at the same positions, hence both the 
factors i.e subjects and positions are fixed factors.
Hence a design matrix exploring the within subject effects of positions would 
be 
1 0 1 0
0 1 1 0
1 0 0 1
0 1 0 1
The first two columns are position and the last two are the subjects.

But mri_glmfit does not accept this design and I get the following error 
message:

'Matrix condition is 1e+08
ERROR: matrix is ill-conditioned or badly scaled, condno = 1e+08
Possible problem with experimental design:
Check for duplicate entries and/or lack of range of
continuous variables within a class.'

Looking forward to your suggestion
Thanks in advance
Raka











From: Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
To: raka maitra rakamai...@yahoo.com
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 7:05:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] manually specifying design matrix

If you specify it manually, you don't specify groups, etc, or pass an 
fsgd file. You just create your design matrix  pass it to mri_glmfit 
directly with the --X flag.

doug

raka maitra wrote:

 Hi all

 I want to specify a design matrix manually.

 In the usual pipeline for analysis in freesurfer, one specifies the 
 groups, regressors in the fsgd and then when mri_glmfit is run, it 
 creates the design matrix.
 For eg if I have two classes with 3 subjects each, in my fsgd, 
 mri_glmfit would create the following  design matrix
 1 0
 1 0
 1 0
 0 1
 0 1
 0 1

 If I want to specify the above design matrix manually, how and where 
 do I specify the groups, regressors ?


 Thanks in advance
 Raka

 

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Re: [Freesurfer] number of vertices per hemisphere using mri_glmfit

2010-01-19 Thread Douglas N Greve
In the mri_glmfit.log file, there is a SearchSpace this will be in mm2 
for surfaces and mm3 for vols. There will also be a mask.mgh file. You 
can run mri_segstats on this to give you the number of elements that are 
== 1.

doug

Stefan Brauns wrote:
 Hi there,

 I am running surface based analysis of cortical thickness using 
 FreeSurfer. Sometimes I constrain the analysis to certain regions of 
 the brain, e.g. only frontal lobes. I would like to find out how many 
 vertices per hemisphere are analysed with the mri_glmfit I am running. 
 Is there a possibility to get these values from any of the log-files? 
 What is the usual number of vertices per hemisphere?

 Many thanks,

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Re: [Freesurfer] Fw: manually specifying design matrix

2010-01-19 Thread Douglas N Greve
It would probably be more like this:
1. 00.5000
1. 0   -0.5000
 01.0.5000
 01.   -0.5000
The 1st col codes subject 1. The 1st row is the 1st measure of subject 1 
and the 2nd row is the 2nd measure of subject 1.

doug


raka maitra wrote:
 Hello

 Sorry for reposting again.
 Would really appreciate a feedback on the following mail.

 Thanks in advance for your time
 Raka


 - Forwarded Message 
 *From:* raka maitra rakamai...@yahoo.com
 *To:* Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *Sent:* Fri, January 15, 2010 9:34:02 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] manually specifying design matrix

 Thank you Doug.

 I am trying to create a design matrix for repeated measures anova.

 Lets say subjects A and B have been measured at sitting and standing 
 positions.
 As the same subjects have been measured at the same positions, hence 
 both the factors i.e subjects and positions are fixed factors.
 Hence a design matrix exploring the within subject effects of 
 positions would be 
 1 0 1 0
 0 1 1 0
 1 0 0 1
 0 1 0 1
 The first two columns are position and the last two are the subjects.

 But mri_glmfit does not accept this design and I get the following 
 error message:

 'Matrix condition is 1e+08
 ERROR: matrix is ill-conditioned or badly scaled, condno = 1e+08
 Possible problem with experimental design:
 Check for duplicate entries and/or lack of range of
 continuous variables within a class.'

 Looking forward to your suggestion
 Thanks in advance
 Raka








 
 *From:* Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *To:* raka maitra rakamai...@yahoo.com
 *Cc:* freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *Sent:* Thu, January 14, 2010 7:05:28 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] manually specifying design matrix

 If you specify it manually, you don't specify groups, etc, or pass an
 fsgd file. You just create your design matrix  pass it to mri_glmfit
 directly with the --X flag.

 doug

 raka maitra wrote:
 
  Hi all
 
  I want to specify a design matrix manually.
 
  In the usual pipeline for analysis in freesurfer, one specifies the
  groups, regressors in the fsgd and then when mri_glmfit is run, it
  creates the design matrix.
  For eg if I have two classes with 3 subjects each, in my fsgd,
  mri_glmfit would create the following  design matrix
  1 0
  1 0
  1 0
  0 1
  0 1
  0 1
 
  If I want to specify the above design matrix manually, how and where
  do I specify the groups, regressors ?
 
 
  Thanks in advance
  Raka
 
  
 
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[Freesurfer] a question about rebuild_gca_atlas.csh

2010-01-19 Thread Guang Zeng

Hi, there,

In rebuild_gca_atlas.csh, I read something like:

# A talairach registration should be generated for this first subject as well,
# in order to align the final atlas to the Talairach space.

Is this  talairach registration file the same as the talairach.xfm under each 
subject's /mri/transforms/ direcotry?

Thanks!
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Re: [Freesurfer] a question about rebuild_gca_atlas.csh

2010-01-19 Thread Nick Schmansky
yes.  be sure to double-check it with tkregister2.

On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 12:24 -0600, Guang Zeng wrote:
 Hi, there,
 
 In rebuild_gca_atlas.csh, I read something like:
 
 # A talairach registration should be generated for this first subject
 as well,
 # in order to align the final atlas to the Talairach space.
 
 Is this talairach registration file the same as the talairach.xfm
 under each subject's /mri/transforms/ direcotry?
 
 Thanks!
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Re: [Freesurfer] number of vertices per hemisphere using mri_glmfit

2010-01-19 Thread Bruce Fischl
usually around 140k/hemi.  If you make a label and save it as a label file 
it will have 1 line/vertex

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Stefan Brauns wrote:

 Hi there,

 I am running surface based analysis of cortical thickness using FreeSurfer.
 Sometimes I constrain the analysis to certain regions of the brain, e.g.
 only frontal lobes. I would like to find out how many vertices per
 hemisphere are analysed with the mri_glmfit I am running. Is there a
 possibility to get these values from any of the log-files? What is the usual
 number of vertices per hemisphere?

 Many thanks,

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Re: [Freesurfer] number of vertices per hemisphere using mri_glmfit

2010-01-19 Thread Rudolph Pienaar
If you do:

$mris_calc overlay stats

the first line reported back will be the number of vertices. So, if you 
want to know how many vertices on the left hemisphere:

$mris_calc lh.thickness stats

and look at the

Size[ XXX ]

where XX will be number of vertices.


Stefan Brauns wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I am running surface based analysis of cortical thickness using 
 FreeSurfer. Sometimes I constrain the analysis to certain regions of the 
 brain, e.g. only frontal lobes. I would like to find out how many 
 vertices per hemisphere are analysed with the mri_glmfit I am running. 
 Is there a possibility to get these values from any of the log-files? 
 What is the usual number of vertices per hemisphere?
 
 Many thanks,
 
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[Freesurfer] FreeSurfer two atalses

2010-01-19 Thread Guang Zeng

Hi, there,

Are there any place in FreeSurfer Wiki or journal paper explain why FreeSurfer 
need to atlases; Subcortical and Surface?


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[Freesurfer] brainmask

2010-01-19 Thread Satrajit Ghosh
if one wants to get at the brain only (similar to bet), is brainmask.mgz the
best file to use? on some of our data, we are noticing a lot of eyeball.

i presume one can use aseg as an alternative. is this more recommended than
brainmask.mgz? also, is the total brain volume computation based on aseg or
some other file?

cheers,

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Re: [Freesurfer] brainmask

2010-01-19 Thread Douglas N Greve
aparc+aseg.mgz is probably better. See 
surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BrainVolume for the answer to your 
question.

Satrajit Ghosh wrote:
 if one wants to get at the brain only (similar to bet), is 
 brainmask.mgz the best file to use? on some of our data, we are 
 noticing a lot of eyeball.

 i presume one can use aseg as an alternative. is this more recommended 
 than brainmask.mgz? also, is the total brain volume computation based 
 on aseg or some other file?

 cheers,

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[Freesurfer] Vol index to Talairach

2010-01-19 Thread Oya, Hiroyuki
Dear experts,

I like to find Tarairach and MNI coordinate from volume index  (data has 
been already processed with recon-all) off line using Matlab.

Which transform should I use to find it ?

Thank you.

Hiroyuki

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[Freesurfer] WM.mgz corrections in the ventricles Individual Normalization

2010-01-19 Thread Sherri Novis
Hello -

I have two questions:

1) I noticed on wm.mgz volumes that were segmented properly, that even when the 
ventricles were 
automatically filled in, on some slices they are somewhat patchy (partially 
filled in with white, with some black/blank voxels).

Do these patchy wm fill-ins require manual fill-ins to make them entirely 
opaque?

I went through the tutorial, and it was not clear whether a patchy fill-in 
required a correction or not.

2) What is the best automated measurement that can be used to normalize an 
individual's cortical segmentation volumes for between subject comparison?  We 
have been using gray+white volumes (why we need the ventrical volume processing 
to be consistent) - but not sure if ICV would be better individual normalizer.

Thank you for your time -
Sherri
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