[Freesurfer] V5/MT label anatomical borders

2010-06-15 Thread Carl Schultz
Dear all,

is there an anatomical description for the V5/MT label?
(Freesurfer Version 4.0.5)

Thank you in advance


Christoph

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Dr. C. Schultz
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[Freesurfer] micro-parcellation

2010-06-15 Thread Christian Lambert
Hello,

I've been through the threads and can't find the answer to this one.

Problem:
- Subdivide the cortex into 5000++ (ideally10,000) units per hemisphere

I've tried using mris_divide_parcellation but unfortunately it got very 
upset trying to find a unique rgb colour after I had managed to 
achieve 2700 new labels (also I was not entirely sure how to transfer 
these annot labels to the annot.mgz but that's a side issue):

CTABfindRGBi: rgb was invalid
CTABfindRGBi: rgb was invalid
CTABfindRGBi: rgb was invalid .. etc.,

I'm not really bothered about visualising the result per se, I just want 
each small area_ through _the cortical mantel to be assigned an unique 
value (like in the annot.2009s.mgz images but with many many more areas) 
so I can then convert to nifti and run numerous MATLAB scripts across 
multiple coregistered scans. Is this approach going to work??

Cheers,

- Chris
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Re: [Freesurfer] V5/MT label anatomical borders

2010-06-15 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Christoph,

the V5/MT label we distribute is based on the work of Karl Zilles and 
Katrin Amunts who defined it histologically. I don't have the reference 
handy, but it shouldn't be too hard to find.


cheers
Bruce
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Carl 
Schultz wrote:



Dear all,

is there an anatomical description for the V5/MT label?
(Freesurfer Version 4.0.5)

Thank you in advance


Christoph

Christoph Schultz, MD
University of Jena
Department of Psychiatry
07743 Jena
Germany

Dr. C. Schultz
Universitätsklinik für Psychiatrie und Psychotherapie
Philosophenweg 3
07743 Jena


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Re: [Freesurfer] micro-parcellation

2010-06-15 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Chris,

hmmm, didn't realize that it broke with that many faces. You could try 
mris_make_face_parcellation.

cheers
Bruce
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Christian 
Lambert wrote:

 Hello,

 I've been through the threads and can't find the answer to this one.

 Problem:
 - Subdivide the cortex into 5000++ (ideally10,000) units per hemisphere

 I've tried using mris_divide_parcellation but unfortunately it got very
 upset trying to find a unique rgb colour after I had managed to
 achieve 2700 new labels (also I was not entirely sure how to transfer
 these annot labels to the annot.mgz but that's a side issue):

 CTABfindRGBi: rgb was invalid
 CTABfindRGBi: rgb was invalid
 CTABfindRGBi: rgb was invalid .. etc.,

 I'm not really bothered about visualising the result per se, I just want
 each small area_ through _the cortical mantel to be assigned an unique
 value (like in the annot.2009s.mgz images but with many many more areas)
 so I can then convert to nifti and run numerous MATLAB scripts across
 multiple coregistered scans. Is this approach going to work??

 Cheers,

 - Chris
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[Freesurfer] Antw: Re: V5/MT label anatomical borders

2010-06-15 Thread Carl Schultz
Hi Bruce,

thank you for your fast reply.

Is that the work you referred to ?

Cytoarchitectonic analysis of the human extrastriate cortex in the
region of V5/MT+: a probabilistic, stereotaxic map of area hOc5.
Malikovic A, Amunts K, Schleicher A, Mohlberg H, Eickhoff SB, Wilms M,
Palomero-Gallagher N, Armstrong E, Zilles K.
Cereb Cortex. 2007 Mar;17(3):562-74.

Best regards

Christoph

Christoph Schultz, MD
University of Jena
Department of Psychiatry
07743 Jena
Germany

Dr. C. Schultz
Universitätsklinik für Psychiatrie und Psychotherapie
Philosophenweg 3 
07743 Jena

 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 15.06.10 14.56 Uhr 
Hi Christoph,

the V5/MT label we distribute is based on the work of Karl Zilles and 
Katrin Amunts who defined it histologically. I don't have the reference 
handy, but it shouldn't be too hard to find.

cheers
Bruce
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Carl 
Schultz wrote:

 Dear all,

 is there an anatomical description for the V5/MT label?
 (Freesurfer Version 4.0.5)

 Thank you in advance


 Christoph

 Christoph Schultz, MD
 University of Jena
 Department of Psychiatry
 07743 Jena
 Germany

 Dr. C. Schultz
 Universitätsklinik für Psychiatrie und Psychotherapie
 Philosophenweg 3
 07743 Jena

 
 Universitätsklinikum Jena
 Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts und Teilkörperschaft der
 Friedrich-Schiller-Universität
 Jena Bachstraße 18, 07743 Jena
 Verwaltungsratsvorsitzender: Prof. Dr. Thomas Deufel; Medizinischer
 Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Klaus Höffken;
 Wissenschaftlicher Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Klaus Benndorf; Kaufmännischer
 Vorstand und Sprecher des Klinikumsvorstandes Rudolf Kruse
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Re: [Freesurfer] Antw: Re: V5/MT label anatomical borders

2010-06-15 Thread Bruce Fischl

exactly.
Bruce
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Carl Schultz wrote:


Hi Bruce,

thank you for your fast reply.

Is that the work you referred to ?

Cytoarchitectonic analysis of the human extrastriate cortex in the
region of V5/MT+: a probabilistic, stereotaxic map of area hOc5.
Malikovic A, Amunts K, Schleicher A, Mohlberg H, Eickhoff SB, Wilms M,
Palomero-Gallagher N, Armstrong E, Zilles K.
Cereb Cortex. 2007 Mar;17(3):562-74.

Best regards

Christoph

Christoph Schultz, MD
University of Jena
Department of Psychiatry
07743 Jena
Germany

Dr. C. Schultz
Universitätsklinik für Psychiatrie und Psychotherapie
Philosophenweg 3
07743 Jena


Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 15.06.10 14.56 Uhr 

Hi Christoph,

the V5/MT label we distribute is based on the work of Karl Zilles and
Katrin Amunts who defined it histologically. I don't have the reference
handy, but it shouldn't be too hard to find.

cheers
Bruce
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Carl
Schultz wrote:


Dear all,

is there an anatomical description for the V5/MT label?
(Freesurfer Version 4.0.5)

Thank you in advance


Christoph

Christoph Schultz, MD
University of Jena
Department of Psychiatry
07743 Jena
Germany

Dr. C. Schultz
Universitätsklinik für Psychiatrie und Psychotherapie
Philosophenweg 3
07743 Jena


Universitätsklinikum Jena
Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts und Teilkörperschaft der
Friedrich-Schiller-Universität
Jena Bachstraße 18, 07743 Jena
Verwaltungsratsvorsitzender: Prof. Dr. Thomas Deufel; Medizinischer
Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Klaus Höffken;
Wissenschaftlicher Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Klaus Benndorf; Kaufmännischer
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Re: [Freesurfer] R: R: How means all the output file from a segmentation?

2010-06-15 Thread Michael Waskom
Hi Leonardo,

You might want to check out 3D slicer: http://www.slicer.org/  It sounds
like it might be able to do what you're looking for.

Best,
Mike

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010, Leonardo Chesi wrote:

Hi bruce,
my goal is to obtain a 3D surface of the hippocampal region for a visual
comparison with a manual segmentation made by a neuroradiologist. Today I
managed to extract the volume with mri_binarize but I can't transform it in
a surface that tkurfer can visualize. For that I try to use mri_vol2surf but
I obtain a surface with 0 vertices. Can you help me??
Cheers
Leonardo
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[Freesurfer] Changing tkmedit settings

2010-06-15 Thread Mehul Sampat
Hi Folks,

In tkmedit, the keyboard commands to view main and aux volume are 'Ctrl+1'
and Ctrl+2'.
Is it possible for me to change them to just '1' and '2' respectively ?
(like how only 'n' is required for the navigation tool)

Thanks
Mehul
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Re: [Freesurfer] Changing tkmedit settings

2010-06-15 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Mehul,

I actually use alt-c, which is much more convenient as it toggles between 
them.

cheers
Bruce
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Mehul Sampat wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 In tkmedit, the keyboard commands to view main and aux volume are 'Ctrl+1'
 and Ctrl+2'.
 Is it possible for me to change them to just '1' and '2' respectively ?
 (like how only 'n' is required for the navigation tool)

 Thanks
 Mehul

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[Freesurfer] Local gyrification index error

2010-06-15 Thread Dankner, Nathan (NIH/NIMH) [F]
Hi All,

I'm running the lGI script on my subjects, and recently received this error:

... remeasuring lGI value for vertex iV = 64101. It may take a few minutes.
WARNING -- Problem for vertex iV = 64101, lGI value is aberrantly high 
(lGI=59.4571)...
...lGI computation will be stopped. This may be caused by topological defects, 
check mris_euler_number on the pial surface.

ERROR: compute_lgi did not create output file 
'/misc/data14/jen/SurfaceStats/BCM/surf/tmp-mris_compute_lgi-lh.pial/lh.pial_lgi.asc'!
Linux thalamos 2.6.18-194.3.1.el5 #1 SMP Thu May 13 13:08:30 EDT 2010 x86_64 
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

recon-all exited with ERRORS at Mon Jun 14 19:20:30 EDT 2010

I've gone to the offending vertex in tkmedit and tksurfer to try to determine 
if there was some manual editing that needed to be done, but the area appeared 
to be fine.  Any ideas on what the cause/solution might be?  Thanks,

Nathan

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[Freesurfer] segmentation fix question

2010-06-15 Thread Natalia Bilenko
Hi all,

I have a question about fixing surface segmentation errors while doing an
anatomical reconstruction. When I try to fix some white matter surface
errors by deleting/adding points to wm.mgz and running recon-all
-autorecon-wm, they sometimes get fixed only partially or not at all. I was
just wondering if there is any way to predict whether a certain volume fix
is going to alter a segmentation, or if the only way to find out is to fix
the volume and wait for the results of autorecon2.

Thanks!
Natalia
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Re: [Freesurfer] segmentation fix question

2010-06-15 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Natalia,

you need to figure out what's causing the error in order to understand 
whether a given fix is going to help. Sorry, I know that's a bit vague, 
but it really is a case-by-case thing, although there are only a smallish 
class of different types of problems (maybe 5 or so)

Bruce
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, 
Natalia Bilenko wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have a question about fixing surface segmentation errors while doing an
 anatomical reconstruction. When I try to fix some white matter surface
 errors by deleting/adding points to wm.mgz and running recon-all
 -autorecon-wm, they sometimes get fixed only partially or not at all. I was
 just wondering if there is any way to predict whether a certain volume fix
 is going to alter a segmentation, or if the only way to find out is to fix
 the volume and wait for the results of autorecon2.

 Thanks!
 Natalia

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