[Freesurfer] recommende pc and cuda

2011-04-04 Thread Knut J Bjuland

Hi

I am in the process of acquiring a new computer to run freesurfer on.  I am 
currently think about buying a PC with a geforce 4X0 and a Tesla card along 
with a two screen setup running either Ubuntu or Redhat Linux enterprise 6.0. I 
think the PC should be a core i7 with 6 core and above 12 gigs byte of ram. 
What kind of tesla card is recommend for using with Freesurfer? Will Freesurfer 
5.1 also support cuda 4.0.

Knut J
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Re: [Freesurfer] recommende pc and cuda

2011-04-04 Thread Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior
Maybe a NVidia GTX590  (it's a dual GPU)


On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 08:13, Knut J Bjuland knut...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 I am in the process of acquiring a new computer to run freesurfer on.  I am
 currently think about buying a PC with a geforce 4X0 and a Tesla card along
 with a two screen setup running either Ubuntu or Redhat Linux enterprise
 6.0. I think the PC should be a core i7 with 6 core and above 12 gigs byte
 of ram. What kind of tesla card is recommend for using with Freesurfer? Will
 Freesurfer 5.1 also support cuda 4.0.

 Knut J

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Re: [Freesurfer] recommende pc and cuda

2011-04-04 Thread Richard G. Edgar

On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 13:13 +0200, Knut J Bjuland wrote:

 I am in the process of acquiring a new computer to run freesurfer on.
 I am currently think about buying a PC with a geforce 4X0 and a Tesla
 card along with a two screen setup running either Ubuntu or Redhat
 Linux enterprise 6.0. I think the PC should be a core i7 with 6 core
 and above 12 gigs byte of ram. What kind of tesla card is recommend
 for using with Freesurfer? Will Freesurfer 5.1 also support cuda 4.0.

If your budget can withstand a Tesla C2050, by all means go for it. I've
not checked in detail how much GPU RAM FreeSurfer requires, so it might
be possible to run on a 'lesser' GeForce card. There's not enough double
precision stuff to be significant in the GeForce vs Tesla choice. And I
don't do overlapping transfers, which would be another factor. The main
thing to do is make sure you have a 'Fermi' GPU - that's a Tesla 20
series, or GeForce GTX 400 or 500 series. Large speed ups depend on the
Fermi card.

As for the CPU... just make sure it's Nehalem class. FreeSurfer on both
the CPU and GPU likes fast RAM access.

As for CUDA 4.0 support that will depend on NVIDIA not breaking
backwards compatibility (not an absolute given - they are not IBM). I
don't expect any trouble, but until we upgrade to CUDA 4.0 here (and 3.2
just broke binary compatibility), I wouldn't want to promise anything.

HTH,

Richard

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Re: [Freesurfer] help with CT scaling

2011-04-04 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Andy

can you run mri_info on the volume and see what it thinks the voxel 
dimensions are? Then also run it on the dicom series?

cheers
Bruce


On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Andrew R. Dykstra wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm having problems either or converting a series of dicoms from a CT scan
 obtained at MGH main.  When viewing them in the standard hospital viewer,
 they appear normal, but when viewing them in TKMEDIT (either the original
 dicom series or converted mgz file), the scaling changes.  Are there any
 options in mri_convert I can use to overcome this problem?  See attached
 view of the mgz file.

 Cheers,
 Andy

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[Freesurfer] mri_ca_register error

2011-04-04 Thread T. Hagen
Hello all,

I got this error message while running one of my subjects (freesurfer 
version 5.0.0):

gcamFindOptimalTimeStep: Complete in 23335.062 ms
0388: dt=0.00, rms=0.657 (0.000%), neg=0, invalid=766
GCAMwrite(transforms/talairach.m3z): gzip encountered error.
writing output transformation to transforms/talairach.m3z...
mri_ca_register: GCAMwrite(transforms/talairach.m3z) failed
ERROR: mri_ca_register with non-zero status 252
but continuing despite the error
#--
#@# CA Reg Inv Mon Apr 4 07:57:30 EDT 2011
/home/virtualuser/apps/freesurfer/subjects/flo/mri

mri_ca_register -invert-and-save transforms/talairach.m3z

Loading, Inverting, Saving, Exiting ...
Reading transforms/talairach.m3z
ERROR: cannot find or read transforms/talairach.m3z
ERROR: mri_ca_register with non-zero status 0
Linux FreeSurfer 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 
UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

recon-all -s flo exited with ERRORS at Mon Apr 4 07:57:30 EDT 2011

The recon-all.log indicates that mri_ca_register couldn’t write the 
talairach.m3z file. The brainmask.mgz file is skull-stripped and the 
cerebellum is attached. There is enough disc space.
Does anyone know what this could possibly mean and how to avoid it?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Thomas Hagen

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Re: [Freesurfer] LGI error in make_outer_surface at 31

2011-04-04 Thread Lisa Ronan
Dear List

I have recently come up agains the same problem as described below, namely
the error when I compute lGI reads

reading filled volume...
closing volume...
??? Undefined function or method 'fspecial' for input arguments of
type 'char'.
Error in == make_outer_surface at 31
Gaussian = fspecial('gaussian',[2 2],1);

ERROR: make_outer_surface did not create output file 

I have tried re-running the subject (as recommended below), as well as
looking at any output from the mris_compute_lgi -debug flag directly, but
the error is the same (Note I am trying to process subjects on a linux
computer, and have verified that the same subject runs successfully on a
Mac).

I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have,

Thanks in advance,

Lisa

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Martin Kavec martin.ka...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Jenifer,

 I don't know what the error exactly means, but sometimes just re-running
 the
 analysis helps.

 Best,

 Martin

 On Wednesday 24 September 2008 19:24:40 Juranek, Jenifer wrote:
  Hi,
  Encountering some difficulties with LGI on a RHEL4 box (64bit) with
 MATLAB
  v7.6.0.324 (R2008a) installed. Subject was processed under fsv405.
 Specific
  error is pasted below:
 
  Any suggestions to correct my error?
 
  Thanks,
  Jenifer
 
   reading filled volume...
 
  closing volume...
  ??? Undefined function or method 'fspecial' for input arguments of type
  'char'.
 
  Error in == make_outer_surface at 31
  Gaussian = fspecial('gaussian',[2 2],1);
 
 
  ERROR: make_outer_surface did not create output file
  'tmp-mris_compute_lgi-lh.pial/lh.pial-outer'! Linux localhost.localdomain
  2.6.9-5.ELsmp #1 SMP Wed Jan 5 19:29:47 EST 2005 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
  GNU/Linux
 
  recon-all exited with ERRORS at Wed Sep 24 11:51:01 CDT 2008
 
  [jjuranek@localhost jjuranek_fsv405]$
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] LGI error in make_outer_surface at 31

2011-04-04 Thread Lena Palaniyappan
Hi Lisa

Are you able to see  the paths traced from the 'intermediate' files - you can 
find them in a tmp folder within the subject's surf directory

Lena


On 04/04/2011 16:24, Lisa Ronan lisa.ro...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear List

I have recently come up agains the same problem as described below, namely the 
error when I compute lGI reads

reading filled volume...
closing volume...
??? Undefined function or method 'fspecial' for input arguments of type 'char'.
Error in == make_outer_surface at 31
Gaussian = fspecial('gaussian',[2 2],1);

ERROR: make_outer_surface did not create output file 

I have tried re-running the subject (as recommended below), as well as looking 
at any output from the mris_compute_lgi -debug flag directly, but the error is 
the same (Note I am trying to process subjects on a linux computer, and have 
verified that the same subject runs successfully on a Mac).

I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have,

Thanks in advance,

Lisa

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Martin Kavec martin.ka...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Jenifer,

I don't know what the error exactly means, but sometimes just re-running the
analysis helps.

Best,

Martin

On Wednesday 24 September 2008 19:24:40 Juranek, Jenifer wrote:
 Hi,
 Encountering some difficulties with LGI on a RHEL4 box (64bit) with MATLAB
 v7.6.0.324 (R2008a) installed. Subject was processed under fsv405. Specific
 error is pasted below:

 Any suggestions to correct my error?

 Thanks,
 Jenifer

  reading filled volume...

 closing volume...
 ??? Undefined function or method 'fspecial' for input arguments of type
 'char'.

 Error in == make_outer_surface at 31
 Gaussian = fspecial('gaussian',[2 2],1);


 ERROR: make_outer_surface did not create output file
 'tmp-mris_compute_lgi-lh.pial/lh.pial-outer'! Linux localhost.localdomain
 2.6.9-5.ELsmp #1 SMP Wed Jan 5 19:29:47 EST 2005 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
 GNU/Linux

 recon-all exited with ERRORS at Wed Sep 24 11:51:01 CDT 2008

 [jjuranek@localhost jjuranek_fsv405]$


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[Freesurfer] Converting an FSL label to Freesurfer space

2011-04-04 Thread mmoayedi
 Hi,

 I'm trying to convert the individual FS parcelations to individual 
 space in FSL.  I'm not sure how to proceed.  I've made a label from the 
 individual subject's parcelation, and have saved it.  How would I then 
 convert the label to use it as a mask in the subject's structural space 
 in FSL?  Would mri_label2vol suffice? What would be my --reg?
 Thanks,
 Massih

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Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface correction failure after adding control points

2011-04-04 Thread Allison Stevens
Hi Min,
It's difficult to tell what may be going wrong based on that one slice. 
Could you upload the subject and send it to Khoa so she can investigate? 
She's an expert in exactly these kinds of problems.
Allison

On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Min Liu wrote:

 Dear Freesurfer users,

 Thank you Dr.Stevens for suggestions. I reran -autorecon2 but still it
 didn't fix the pial surface. I edited wm.mgz again by adding more control
 points AND more white matter voxels using the 'edit voxel brush' but still,
 after reran the whole second recon step, pial surface failed to include the
 added wm voxels in. Pls see the attachment. Does anyone encounter the same
 thing before? Thank you for advice!

 Min

 On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Allison Stevens 
 astev...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Hi Min,
 We've learned that -autorecon2-cp might not be doing what was intended. Try
 runing -autorecon2 and see if it fixes everything.
 Allison


 On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Min Liu wrote:

  Dear Freesurfer users,

 My first run of recon12 left some white and grey matter at temporal pole
 region excluded. So I edited the wm.mgz by adding a bunch of control
 points
 intending to get more white matter and expand the pial surface (please see
 the coronal slice in the attachment where the control points were placed).
 Then I ran the command 'recon-all -autorecon2-cp -subjid XX' WITHOUT
 '-autorecon3'. From my understanding, Freesurfer would recalculate the
 wm.mgz as well as the white matter and pial surfaces in temporal pole
 according to the control points. However, I got wm.mgz corrected and pial
 surface wrong (as the attached graph indicated).

 Did I do something wrong? Why wm.mgz got fixed while pial surface not?
 Thanks for help in advanced!

 Veronica



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Re: [Freesurfer] help with CT scaling

2011-04-04 Thread Andrew R. Dykstra
Hi Bruce,

Here is the output from mri_info on both the mgz volume and dicom series.

Cheers,
Andy



On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

 Hi Andy

 can you run mri_info on the volume and see what it thinks the voxel
 dimensions are? Then also run it on the dicom series?

 cheers
 Bruce



 On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Andrew R. Dykstra wrote:

  Hi all,

 I'm having problems either or converting a series of dicoms from a CT scan
 obtained at MGH main.  When viewing them in the standard hospital viewer,
 they appear normal, but when viewing them in TKMEDIT (either the original
 dicom series or converted mgz file), the scaling changes.  Are there any
 options in mri_convert I can use to overcome this problem?  See attached
 view of the mgz file.

 Cheers,
 Andy



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How small the cosmos.  How paltry and puny compared to human consciousness
. . . to a single individual recollection. - Vladimir Nabokov
[huygens:Cashlab] (nmr-std-env) mri_info iEEG/MG45_SURFER_OUTPUT/ct/ct.mgz
Volume information for iEEG/MG45_SURFER_OUTPUT/ct/ct.mgz
  type: MGH
dimensions: 256 x 256 x 256
   voxel sizes: 1., 1., 1.
  type: UCHAR (0)
   fov: 256.000
   dof: 0
xstart: -128.0, xend: 128.0
ystart: -128.0, yend: 128.0
zstart: -128.0, zend: 128.0
TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle: 0.00 
degrees
   nframes: 1
   PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
ras xform present
xform info: x_r =  -1., y_r =   0., z_r =   0., c_r =16.1619
  : x_a =   0., y_a =   0., z_a =   1., c_a =-5.1820
  : x_s =  -0., y_s =  -1., z_s =  -0., c_s =55.6768

talairach xfm : 
Orientation   : LIA
Primary Slice Direction: coronal

voxel to ras transform:
   -1.   0.   0.   144.1619
0.   0.   1.  -133.1820
   -0.  -1.  -0.   183.6768
0.   0.   0. 1.

voxel-to-ras determinant -1

ras to voxel transform:
   -1.   0.   0.   144.1619
0.   0.  -1.   183.6768
0.   1.   0.   133.1820
0.   0.   0. 1.

[huygens:Cashlab] (nmr-std-env) mri_info 
iEEG/MG45_SURFER_OUTPUT/ct/1.2.840.113619.2.80.973217100.26943.1289361217.3.dcm
Starting DICOMRead2()
dcmfile = 
iEEG/MG45_SURFER_OUTPUT/ct/1.2.840.113619.2.80.973217100.26943.1289361217.3.dcm
dcmdir = iEEG/MG45_SURFER_OUTPUT/ct
Ref Series No = 301
Found 83 files, checking for dicoms
Found 79 dicom files in series.
First Sorting
Computing Slice Direction
Vs: -105.559 33.8442 0.644257
Vs: -0.952237 0.305304 0.00581175
Second Sorting
Counting frames
nframes = 1
nslices = 79
ndcmfiles = 79
PE Dir = UNKNOWN (dicom read)
Segmentation fault
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_ca_register error

2011-04-04 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Thomas,

usually that means the partition you are trying to write to is full,

cheers
Bruce
On 
Mon, 4 Apr 2011, T. Hagen wrote:



Hello all,

I got this error message while running one of my subjects (freesurfer
version 5.0.0):

gcamFindOptimalTimeStep: Complete in 23335.062 ms
0388: dt=0.00, rms=0.657 (0.000%), neg=0, invalid=766
GCAMwrite(transforms/talairach.m3z): gzip encountered error.
writing output transformation to transforms/talairach.m3z...
mri_ca_register: GCAMwrite(transforms/talairach.m3z) failed
ERROR: mri_ca_register with non-zero status 252
but continuing despite the error
#--
#@# CA Reg Inv Mon Apr 4 07:57:30 EDT 2011
/home/virtualuser/apps/freesurfer/subjects/flo/mri

mri_ca_register -invert-and-save transforms/talairach.m3z

Loading, Inverting, Saving, Exiting ...
Reading transforms/talairach.m3z
ERROR: cannot find or read transforms/talairach.m3z
ERROR: mri_ca_register with non-zero status 0
Linux FreeSurfer 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59
UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

recon-all -s flo exited with ERRORS at Mon Apr 4 07:57:30 EDT 2011

The recon-all.log indicates that mri_ca_register couldnÿÿt write the
talairach.m3z file. The brainmask.mgz file is skull-stripped and the
cerebellum is attached. There is enough disc space.
Does anyone know what this could possibly mean and how to avoid it?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Thomas Hagen

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[Freesurfer] {Disarmed} Re: Questions about GLM, Random and Fixed Effects Analysis in FsFast

2011-04-04 Thread Gabriel A. Tobon
Thank you, your reply was very helpful.

I have one more specific question.  How is the variance of the group-level
contrast map estimated in the RFX and WRFX cases (to be used for a t-test
or F-test)?  Is it simply the sample variance of the lower level contrast
maps stored in ces.nii files?

Thanks,
Gabriel


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 wrote:


 Hi Gabriel,

 for mri_glmfit, W = diag(sqrt(1./yffxvar)), ie, it is a diagonal matrix
 where each element is the square root of the inverse of the variance from
 the lower level. This changes the equation from a simple ordinary least
 squares into a weighted least squares (though not quite a true mixed-effects
 analysis).

 There are not explicitly nuisance regressors in the B matrix. The B is the
 matrix of regression coefficients (betas) based on the solution to the
 forward model y=X*B (B=inv(X'*X)*X'*y). So the frames in B depend on the
 design matrix which depend on how you've set up your FSGD (or if you've
 entered the X matrix explicitly).

 I don't have another manuscript, but there is a lot of detail in the
 tutorial slides ftp://spdb.set_trace()

 urfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/docs/freesurfer.groupanalysis.pptftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/docs/freesurfer.groupanalysis.ppt

 doug



 Gabriel A. Tobon wrote:

 Hello Freesurfers

 I would like to run a specialized group GLM analysis on the volume using
 estimates from the individual subject analysis in Freesurfer as summary
 statistics.  I would like to learn a little more about how this estimation
 is done before doing so.  I have looked at the documentation for
 mri_glmfit and the following tutorial:
 http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsFastTutorial
 I also have your 1999/2003 manuscripts on Signal Processing and
 Statistical Analysis for Event-Related fMRI and fMRI Analysis 101 -
 Univariate Analysis, but I am not sure if the method has been updated since
 then.

 * I noticed there is a weight matrix (W) described for mri_glmfit
 command.  How is this derived and used?  I can't find more information about
 it in the documentation/mailing list.
 * How are the nuisance regressors organized in the B matrix?  I assume the
 conditions are first?  What are the following regressors?
 * Do you have a similar manuscript that describes just how group analysis
 is implemented in FsFast?

 Thank you for your time and help!
 Gabriel
 

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Re: [Freesurfer] Converting an FSL label to Freesurfer space

2011-04-04 Thread Douglas Greve
Hi Massih,

  Try looking at 
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsAnat-to-NativeAnat

doug

On 4/4/11 2:38 PM, mmoayedi wrote:
   Hi,

   I'm trying to convert the individual FS parcelations to individual
   space in FSL.  I'm not sure how to proceed.  I've made a label from the
   individual subject's parcelation, and have saved it.  How would I then
   convert the label to use it as a mask in the subject's structural space
   in FSL?  Would mri_label2vol suffice? What would be my --reg?
   Thanks,
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Re: [Freesurfer] Visualizing SPM Results on Template FreeSurfer Brain

2011-04-04 Thread Douglas Greve

He Lena, here's a paper that uses this method

ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/tom.2007.science.LossAversion.pdf

doug

On 4/3/11 7:52 AM, Lena Palaniyappan wrote:

Doug
Do you have any citations where people have done this before -- it is 
relevant for a VBM + SBM analysis I am currently doing,

Cheers
Lena


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Hi Scott, no there is not another space I would recommend. The
cortical
surfaces across subjects don't line up at all with a 12DOF
transform. If
you look at your activation in the volume along with surface
lines, you
may see that your surfaces intersect some of the activation but not
others. I guess if the surface is showing your important activation,
then it's probably ok. I've seen people do this before.

doug

Scott Burns wrote:
 Doug --


 After you've gone into MNI space with all of your subjects, then
 visualizing the results on the surface are of questionable value.


 All of our first-level and second-level statistical maps in MNI
space and we wish to overlay them onto fsaverage, is there another
space I could map these spmT images into that when overlayed would
be more reliable/publication worthy? If this wouldn't work, what
would you suggest?

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Re: [Freesurfer] resampling vol to surface

2011-04-04 Thread Douglas Greve
Hi Greg, mri_vol2surf will take a --regheader option which tells it to 
assume that the movable is in the anatomical space.

doug

On 4/1/11 4:11 PM, GREGORY R KIRK wrote:
 Hi guys,

 i am using the freesurfer-fsl integration to use labels from the freesurfer 
 cortical surface as seeds for probtrackx
 probabilistic diffusion tractography. when the output of probtrackx is 
 generated it is already in the freesurfer
 conformed space. I want to resample the output of probtrackx onto the 
 cortical surface. I have the transformations
 from the diffusion data to freesurfer conformed space generated using 
 bbregister to do the tractography but
 to use mri_vol2surf i need to first tranfrorm the output of probtrackx back 
 into the epi space with the
 inverse of the bbregister tranform ( output in the fsl format) and resample 
 it to the lower resolution epi resolution.

 i.e. there is not an option for mri_vol2surf to assume the data to be 
 resampled onto the cortical surface
 is already in freesurfer conformed space. i suppose i could compute 
 transformations from freesurfer
 conformed space to say brain.mgz, which would essentially be the identity 
 transformation.

 mriconvert -it mgz -ot nii brain.mgz brain.nii
 i.e. bbregister --mov brain.nii --t1 -s subject -init-fsl --reg register.dat

 or i could make a fake identity transform like

 1.0
 1.0
 ? don't know what this number is
 1 0 0 0
 0 1 0 0
 0 0 1 0
 0 0 0 0
 round ? what should i use here.

 whats the best way to go here

 thanks

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Re: [Freesurfer] help with CT scaling

2011-04-04 Thread Bruce Fischl
Looks like we can't read the dicom fully. Is this a standard ct produced by the 
scanner? I guess I would try some other conversion utility like mricro to 
convert to nifti



On Apr 4, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Andrew R. Dykstra adyks...@mit.edu wrote:

 Hi Bruce,
 
 Here is the output from mri_info on both the mgz volume and dicom series.
 
 Cheers,
 Andy
 
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 wrote:
 Hi Andy
 
 can you run mri_info on the volume and see what it thinks the voxel 
 dimensions are? Then also run it on the dicom series?
 
 cheers
 Bruce
 
 
 
 On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Andrew R. Dykstra wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm having problems either or converting a series of dicoms from a CT scan
 obtained at MGH main.  When viewing them in the standard hospital viewer,
 they appear normal, but when viewing them in TKMEDIT (either the original
 dicom series or converted mgz file), the scaling changes.  Are there any
 options in mri_convert I can use to overcome this problem?  See attached
 view of the mgz file.
 
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