Re: [Freesurfer] FreeSurfer use in dogs

2011-07-08 Thread Marjorie Milne
Thanks Nick  Bruce,

Nick - I have high resolution T1W 3D scans, with 1mm voxel size and pretty good 
grey white matter contrast.  Could you put me in touch with those that have 
used freesurfer on canine brains please?

If I had a canine brain MRI atlas, similar to the Talairach atlas, could I 
integrate this into Freesufer and use this as my template instead?

Bruce - how do I go about trying the 'monkey stream'?

With thanks,
Marjorie.


From: Bruce Fischl [fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, 6 July 2011 11:36 PM
To: Marjorie Milne
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] FreeSurfer use in dogs

Hi Marjorie,

I don't know of anyone who has used it in dogs, but you could try the
monkey stream and see if it works for you (it will disable all the
human-specific atlases and such). It will require more manual intervention
though

cheers
Bruce
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, Marjorie Milne wrote:

 Hello Freesurfers,

 I would like to use FreeSurfer to analyse brain morphology in dogs but do not 
 know if the techniques can be applied in this species.

 Does anyone have experience using FreeSurfer in dogs, and any tips to get the 
 techniques to work?

 Regards,
 Marjorie Milne

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Re: [Freesurfer] Retinotopy stimuli

2011-07-08 Thread Anders Hougaard
Hi all,


Thank you very much!
I did 2 runs of each of the stimuli I described in one session (I previously
got some pretty decent maps from these data using the mrVista package from
Stanford).

I followed the retinotopy instructions from the FS wiki (
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsFastIndividualRetinotopyAnalysis)
but the results did not make much sense. I guess I need to use some other
commands or change some parameters in order to view reasonable eccentricity
and polar angle maps. I have not managed to find any other documentation on
how to do this.
This is what my raw angle looks like:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6981172/raw_angle.tif

Best,

Anders


2011/7/7 Jonathan Polimeni j...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu


 hi anders,

 the optimal set of stimulus parameters will depend somewhat on what
 cortical area(s) you are trying to map and on the details of your
 acquisition. in general, stimulating with both clockwise- and
 counterclockwise-rotating wedges for polar angle mapping and with both
 expanding and contracting rings for eccentricity mapping improves the
 accuracy of the maps, and the proper analysis of this data is implemented
 fsfast. the width of the wedge or the ring will depend on the cortical
 area you are trying to stimulate, but you may want to consider a thinner
 wedge. also, 8 Hz flickering has been shown to activate area V1 more
 strongly than other frequencies, and smoothly moving stimuli can also
 help. then, depending on your voxel size, field strength, coil array,
 etc., you could include more cycles and may need to average together
 multiple runs.

 marty, roger et al. have a few nice papers that i'd recommend that discuss
 some of these details relating to phase-encoded retinotopic stimuli.

  Sereno  Tootell. Curr Opin Neurobiol. 2005;15(2):135-44.
  Tootell et al. J Neurosci. 1997;17(18):7060-78.
  Sereno et al. Science. 1995;268(5212):889-93.

 (the '97 paper discusses the ring/wedge thickness, the '95 paper discusses
 the advantages of using both expanding + contracting stimuli, and the '05
 paper discusses the use of smoothly varying stimuli.)

 hope this helps. were you able to get reasonable looking maps with the
 stimuli you described below?


 -jon




 On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Anders Hougaard wrote:

  Dear freesurfers,
 
 
  Which stimuli do you think provide the best retinotopic maps?
 
  I have done a retinotopy analysis using the following stimuli:
 
  Polar angle:
 
  - 45 deg counter-clockwise rotating wedge
  - 8 unique positions
  - flickering at 2 Hz
  - stimulation period: 36 sec
  - no. of cycles: 6
  - TR = 3
 
  Eccentricity:
 
   - expanding ring
  - 8 unique positions
  - flickering at 2 Hz
  - stimulation period: 36 sec
  - no. of cycles: 6
  - TR = 3
 
  Any suggestions on how to optimize this stimulation?
  E.g. different period length, more runs, bi-directional, different TR
 
  Thank you!
 
  Best regards,
 
  Anders
 


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Re: [Freesurfer] A question about the Freesurfer version compatibility of Tracula

2011-07-08 Thread Anastasia Yendiki

Hi Shanqing - As long as you have good aparc+aseg's for your subjects, the 
version should not be a problem.

a.y

On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Shanqing Cai wrote:

 Hi,

 I am using Tracula, a new tool that comes with version 5.1.0 of FreeSurfer.
 However, my data set are processed with the recon-all of an earlier version of
 FreeSurfer: 5.0.0. I wonder whether I need to rerun recon-all on all the
 subjects in the data set with 5.1.0. Would running Tracula on 5.0.0
 reconstructions cause any problems that render the results unusable/not
 trustable?

 Thank you!

 Best,
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[Freesurfer] Freesurfer and VBM

2011-07-08 Thread Ahmed, F, Me fah...@sun.ac.za
Hello,

I'm wondering if anyone could help me out with a question I had. For a study 
I'm working on, I'm comparing the regional brain volumes in adolescents with 
and without PTSD. I ran VBM analysis and Freesurfer on my subjects and I found 
some significant results on VBM (however, only using uncorrected p values) and 
on Freesurfer, I found no group differences in brain regions. Is there an 
explanation for that?

If anyone has any thoughts I'd really appreciate it. Thank you kindly!

Fatima


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[Freesurfer] muliple fressurfer instance and cuda

2011-07-08 Thread Knut J Bjuland
Hi

When I have ran two or more Freesurfer instance in pc with one geforce
gtx 460. I usually get a abort or memory corruption when running two or
more Freesurfer instance. I usually get trouble when two ore more
Freesurfer instance is in autocon3 phase of the recon-all protocol.


Cheers
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Re: [Freesurfer] muliple fressurfer instance and cuda

2011-07-08 Thread Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior
Try running only one GPU-assisted recon-all


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 Hi

 When I have ran two or more Freesurfer instance in pc with one geforce
 gtx 460. I usually get a abort or memory corruption when running two or
 more Freesurfer instance. I usually get trouble when two ore more
 Freesurfer instance is in autocon3 phase of the recon-all protocol.


 Cheers
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[Freesurfer] Mri_glmfit ERROR: dimension inconsistency in source data

2011-07-08 Thread Agnieszka Burzynska
Hi,
During running fixed effects glm to combine runs, the analysis of all but
one subject went fine.

The log file contains this error message:
mri_surf2surf --srcsubject 1250 --srchemi lh --srcsurfreg sphere.reg
--trgsubject fsaverage --trghemi lh --trgsurfreg sphere.reg --tval
3runs/tmp.mris_preproc.63877/1250.1.mgh --sval
3runs/tmp.mris_preproc.63877/subjsurfvals.mgh --noreshape --no-cortex
ERROR: dimension inconsistency in source data
   Number of surface vertices = 132315
   Number of value vertices = 132299

I see that mri_vol2surf --src run1.feat/stats/varcope1.nii.gz --srcreg
run1.feat/reg/freesurfer/anat2exf.register.dat --hemi lh --out
3runs/tmp.mris_preproc.63877/subjsurfvals.mgh --noreshape

Results in creating a file with dimensions 132299 1 1.

Which data source data has then 132315 vertices? How can I correct this?

Thank you for your help!

Best,
Aga



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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer Digest, Vol 89, Issue 30

2011-07-08 Thread Antonella Kis

Good morning Bruce,

And many thanks again. Yes, bert inflated looks OK on the other computer. I 
will try to  update the video card driver and see if this will fix the problem. 
In the mean time I have one more question: while running the recon-all  on a 
new computer  
hhttps://kidmail.sickkids.ca/owa/?ae=PreFormActiona=Replyt=IPM.Noteid=RgAkiCYl32zeSa5LWUu0M8WhBwBZqTK0%2fPR%2bQJ%2b1OIUDJtvht2gIAABZqTK0%2fPR%2bQJ%2b1OIUDJtvht5XmAAAJpspid=_1310134871973_963068284#aving
 installed the v.5.1 version of FS I am getting an error:

Checking for (invalid) multi-frame inputs...
ERROR: input(s) cannot have multiple frames!
/usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/june2011/_orig_/NPI001/mri/orig/001.mgz has  
frames

Do I need to unzip my NPI001.nii.gz file? But even if I do this I will get the 
same error. Do I need to convert the file in a .lta file? Can you please advise 
me?

Thank you very much and have a great day!
Antonella





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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer Digest, Vol 89, Issue 30

2011-07-08 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Antonella,

where did you get NPI001.nii.gz? Can you send us the output of running 
mri_info on it? Sounds like it has more than one frame in it. What are 
the multiple volumes?

cheers
Bruce


On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Antonella Kis wrote:


 Good morning Bruce,

 And many thanks again. Yes, bert inflated looks OK on the other computer. I 
 will try to  update the video card driver and see if this will fix the 
 problem. In the mean time I have one more question: while running the 
 recon-all  on a new computer  
 hhttps://kidmail.sickkids.ca/owa/?ae=PreFormActiona=Replyt=IPM.Noteid=RgAkiCYl32zeSa5LWUu0M8WhBwBZqTK0%2fPR%2bQJ%2b1OIUDJtvht2gIAABZqTK0%2fPR%2bQJ%2b1OIUDJtvht5XmAAAJpspid=_1310134871973_963068284#aving
  installed the v.5.1 version of FS I am getting an error:

 Checking for (invalid) multi-frame inputs...
 ERROR: input(s) cannot have multiple frames!
 /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/june2011/_orig_/NPI001/mri/orig/001.mgz has  
 frames

 Do I need to unzip my NPI001.nii.gz file? But even if I do this I will get 
 the same error. Do I need to convert the file in a .lta file? Can you please 
 advise me?

 Thank you very much and have a great day!
 Antonella



 

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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer and VBM

2011-07-08 Thread Ahmed, F, Me fah...@sun.ac.za
Hi Ed,

Thanks for that reassurance! Nice to know I didn't do something wrong! I'll 
have a read through of this literature, thank you so much!!! 

Fatima 



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From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
[mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gronenschild
Sent: 08 July 2011 16:51
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer and VBM

Hi Fatima,

Your findings are not surprising. There is plenty of literature
describing problems with the VBM technique. You may read
e.g., Kennedy et al (2009), Neurobiology of Aging, vol. 10,
1657-1676 and references cited herein.

Ed

On 8 Jul 2011, at 15:02, freesurfer-requ...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 Hello,

 I'm wondering if anyone could help me out with a question I had. For  
 a study I'm working on, I'm comparing the regional brain volumes in  
 adolescents with and without PTSD. I ran VBM analysis and Freesurfer  
 on my subjects and I found some significant results on VBM (however,  
 only using uncorrected p values) and on Freesurfer, I found no group  
 differences in brain regions. Is there an explanation for that?

 If anyone has any thoughts I'd really appreciate it. Thank you kindly!

 Fatima

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[Freesurfer] mri_glmfit DOF error

2011-07-08 Thread matteo.di...@tiscali.it
Hello Freesurfers,
I have a problem with mri_glmfit. I performed the 
analysis on two FA data. 
My fsgd is:
GroupDescriptorFile 1
Title 
SUBJ_FA
Class PRE
Class POST
Input FA_1 PRE
Input FA_2 POST


group_difference.mtx:
1 -1

The results in cmd line
DOF = 0
ERROR: DOF 
= 0

What does it mean this error? 

Thank you for your help.
Matteo


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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer Digest, Vol 89, Issue 30

2011-07-08 Thread Bruce Fischl
now I'm confused. What computer are you running it on that does fail?
On 
Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Antonella Kis wrote:

 Here is my results after running mri_info on the file NPI001.nii.gz (I can 
 run recon-all for the same file on a different computer without getting this 
 multiple frames error):


 niiRead(): NIFTI_UNITS_UNKNOWN, assuming mm
 Volume information for NPI001.nii.gz
  type: nii
dimensions: 181 x 217 x 181
   voxel sizes: 1., 1., 1.
  type: FLOAT (3)
   fov: 181.000
   dof: 0
xstart: -90.5, xend: 90.5
ystart: -108.5, yend: 108.5
zstart: -90.5, zend: 90.5
TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle: 0.00 
 degrees
   nframes: 1
   PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
 ras xform present
xform info: x_r =   1., y_r =   0., z_r =   0., c_r = 
 0.5000
  : x_a =   0., y_a =   1., z_a =   0., c_a = 
 0.5000
  : x_s =   0., y_s =   0., z_s =   1., c_s = 
 0.5000
 Orientation   : RAS
 Primary Slice Direction: axial

 voxel to ras transform:
1.   0.   0.   -90.
0.   1.   0.  -108.
0.   0.   1.   -90.
0.   0.   0. 1.

 voxel-to-ras determinant 1

 ras to voxel transform:
1.  -0.  -0.90.
   -0.   1.  -0.   108.
   -0.  -0.   1.90.
0.   0.   0. 1.

 Thank you.
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[Freesurfer] Error with multiple frames

2011-07-08 Thread Antonella Kis


Hi Bruce,

Sorry for making you confused. The true is I have 3 computers in my office. On 
two of them (LNX2 and LNX3)
 I installed by myself the new version of the FS. LNX2 is the one on which the 
bert infalted surface is looking weird.
LNX3 is working perfect ( I cross my fingers and hope nothing bad will happen. 
I need to get some results ASAP).

On the third computer called Analyst was installed the new FS version by 
somebody else.
This is the computer on which I get the ERROR with the multiple frames.

Hopping that you will not be even more confused I will be very grateful if you 
have any suggestion, to help me eliminate this error and to be able to run the 
recon-all on this computer.

PS. Is there any space available for the September course? Are you guys gone 
present this course sometimes in Toronto?

Many thanks.
Antonella




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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer and VBM

2011-07-08 Thread Allison Stevens
Fatima,
I can't really say anything on this topic but I did want to point you to 
some information on FreeSurfer vs. VBM:
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/UserContributions/FAQ#Q.WhataretheadvantagesofFreeSurferoverVBM.3F

Allison

On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Ahmed, F, Me fah...@sun.ac.za wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm wondering if anyone could help me out with a question I had. For a study 
 I'm working on, I'm comparing the regional brain volumes in adolescents with 
 and without PTSD. I ran VBM analysis and Freesurfer on my subjects and I 
 found some significant results on VBM (however, only using uncorrected p 
 values) and on Freesurfer, I found no group differences in brain regions. Is 
 there an explanation for that?

 If anyone has any thoughts I'd really appreciate it. Thank you kindly!

 Fatima



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Re: [Freesurfer] cortical dysplasia

2011-07-08 Thread Carolina Valencia
Hi Pedro,

I tried to send you the image of my problem but the mailing list rejected
my attachment, despite the file is only 769 k.
How I can post an image in order to illustrate my problem?

Thanks,

Carolina

2011/7/7 Carolina Valencia cvalen...@linkdx.com.co

 Hi Pedro,

 Yes I have a case with heterotopia in the left hemisphere , I enclosed the
 image. I save the point in question (the gray matter region within white
 matter) in tkmedit and open it in tksurfer to know the thickness, for this I
 ask if FS takes into account the embedded region of the grey matter to
 measure the cortical thickness?

 Thanks a lot,

 Carolina

 2011/7/7 Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior p...@netfilter.com.br

 Carolina,

 We have worked with several cases of MCD (including cortical dysplasia).
 We have published this paper:
 https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/articles/jon_372_LR.pdf

 It may help.

 But in most cases of cortical dysplasia (not Gray matter
 heterotopia cases) you'll find a ticker cortex not a thinner one. But maybe
 you could post one image illustrate this problem.

 PPJ




 On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:39, Carolina Valencia 
 cvalen...@linkdx.com.cowrote:

 Hello FSexperts

 I have a MPRAGE image of cortical dysplasia, I have some regions of grey 
 matter within the white matter, and I measured the cortical thickness in 
 the projections of those regions and I expected to find a thinnercortex 
 instead I found a cortical thickening. FS takes into account the embedded 
 region of the grey matter to measure the cortical thickness?

 Best regards,

 Carolina

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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer and VBM

2011-07-08 Thread Douglas N Greve
There are a couple of things that come to mind.
- Are you sure you have the same GLM in both analyses?
- It might not be the thickness that is changing. Try looking at the 
jacobian, curvature, and/or gyrfication
- Examine the individual VBM results carefully to make sure that they 
are not being driven by an outlier and that the segmentation looks ok.
- Voets, 2008, NI did a comparison where they looked at some of these 
issues.

doug

Allison Stevens wrote:
 Fatima,
 I can't really say anything on this topic but I did want to point you to 
 some information on FreeSurfer vs. VBM:
 http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/UserContributions/FAQ#Q.WhataretheadvantagesofFreeSurferoverVBM.3F

 Allison

 On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Ahmed, F, Me fah...@sun.ac.za wrote:

   
 Hello,

 I'm wondering if anyone could help me out with a question I had. For a study 
 I'm working on, I'm comparing the regional brain volumes in adolescents with 
 and without PTSD. I ran VBM analysis and Freesurfer on my subjects and I 
 found some significant results on VBM (however, only using uncorrected p 
 values) and on Freesurfer, I found no group differences in brain regions. Is 
 there an explanation for that?

 If anyone has any thoughts I'd really appreciate it. Thank you kindly!

 Fatima



 
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Re: [Freesurfer] muliple fressurfer instance and cuda

2011-07-08 Thread R Edgar
2011/7/8 Knut J Bjuland knut...@hotmail.com:
 It work fine with just one GPU-assisted recon-all.

Sorry, I messed up earlier, and didn't send my reply to the list.
your experience makes sense, since the Freesurfer programs make no
attempt to share the GPU beyond that which the driver imposes. Running
out of memory (particularly on a low end card like yours) would not be
surprising when running three recon-alls at once.

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[Freesurfer] Optseq with Sparse Sampling

2011-07-08 Thread Sam Norman-Haignere
Hi,

I'm planning to run an auditory experiment using a pseudo-sparse sampling
design.  Something like: 4 sec stim period + 2 sec acquisition + 4 sec stim
period + 2 sec acquisition ...

So for example, I'd like to find an optimal sequence for a design with a TR
of 6 seconds but where the stimulus presentations can only occur in specific
4 second intervals after acquisition.  There is room for jittering either in
which 4-sec periods are NULL or alternatively in which part of the 4 seconds
is occupied by stimulus (e.g. 3 sec stim + 1 sec NULL).

Is there a way to use optseq for this type of design? For example, maybe you
could specify when half of the NULL conditions occur.

Thanks,
Sam Norman-Haignere
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