[Freesurfer] GLM for volume

2012-03-09 Thread Linda Zhang
Dear all,

In mris_preproc, I see that there's an option to choose volume for --meas,
would this change anything in the subsequent GLM processes (mri_surf2surf,
mri_glmfit)?  I'm following the tutorial for group analysis, but I haven't
seen any mention of measures apart from thickness, so is this even a valid
question?  For mri_surf2surf and mri_glmfit, what are the other options for
areas apart from --cortex?

Cheers,
Linda
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[Freesurfer] tkregister2 error

2012-03-09 Thread Daniel Preciado

Dear list, 

I'm having problems with the tkregister2 command, I input the following command:

tkregister2 --mov ~/Desktop/input/*_d/mri/rawavg.mgz --noedit --s *_d 
--regheader --reg ~/Desktop/input/*_d/mri/register.dat

Where I'm setting the directory of my subjects, and I get the following output

/Desktop/input/*_d/mri/register.dat
/usr/local/freesurfer/tktools/tkregister2.bin: No match.


However, when I try a similar command with the sample data from bert (And after 
adjusting the subject folder settings) It works fine. 

I ran out of ideas on how to fix it, does anybody have any clue of what can I 
do?

Thanks a lot for your help
Regards



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Re: [Freesurfer] save custom made path on surface as label

2012-03-09 Thread Erhan Genc
Hi Bruce, thanks for your reply. I was interested in computing the distance
between two labels (or within a label), the idea was to export the this
path label and e.g lh.orig into matlab and then determine the distance
along the surface.

Do we have tool for this issue in freesurfer?

cheers,

Erhan

2012/3/7 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

 Yes, you probably need to generate a closed path, or a closed cut. I'm not
 sure if we support saving paths as label files. Anyone know?

 Bruce

 On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Erhan Genc wrote:

  Dear freesurfer experts,
 I draw a path with the tksurfer tools on a surface, but was not able to
 save this path as a label. During the custom fill step it marked the whole
 surface and not just the path. I think it is because the path is not
 closed. Is there still a way to get a path as a label file?

 cheers,

 erhan

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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: Total WM and GM Vol in FS 5.0.0

2012-03-09 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Dhinakaran.

I think we include this in one of the stats files. Allison or Doug would 
know.


cheers
Bruce

On Fri, 9 Mar 2012, Dhinakaran 
Chinappen wrote:



Hi Prof. Fischl and Dr.Greve,
I was wondering if you all got this email below? I sent in to the FS
listserv early yesterday. 

Would really appreciate your help on this matter of total WM and total GM.

Much thanks,
Dhinakaran.


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From: Dhinakaran Chinappen dchin...@seas.upenn.edu
Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:20 PM
Subject: Total WM and GM Vol in FS 5.0.0
To: Freesurfer Mailing List freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Cc: Professor Lynnae Schwartz schwart...@email.chop.edu


Hi all,
I am using Freesurfer 5.0.0, before the outputs for cortical and subcortical
GM and WM were made available in the final output files.

What is the best way to calculate total gray matter volume (cortical and
subcortical)? Is it through mris_anatomical_stats or mri_segstats? Also, are
there commands to calculate total cortical and total subcortical volumes of
GM separately? 

As for total white matter, is using the sum of the volumes of
Left-Cerebral-White-Matter and Right-Cerebral-White-Matter considered
acceptable practice? Or should I go to the command line and use
mris_wm_volume?

Thanks in advance for the clarification,
Dhinakaran.



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Re: [Freesurfer] tkregister2 error

2012-03-09 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Daniel

what subject are you trying to run on? I think it's complaining about one 
of the *_d parts of your command. Can you put the actual name in 
instead of a wildcard?

cheers
Bruce
On Fri, 9 Mar 2012, Daniel Preciado wrote:

 Dear list,
 
 I'm having problems with the tkregister2 command, I input the following
 command:
 
 tkregister2 --mov ~/Desktop/input/*_d/mri/rawavg.mgz --noedit --s *_d --regh
 eader --reg ~/Desktop/input/*_d/mri/register.dat
 Where I'm setting the directory of my subjects, and I get the following outp
 ut
 /Desktop/input/*_d/mri/register.dat
 /usr/local/freesurfer/tktools/tkregister2.bin: No match.
 However, when I try a similar command with the sample data from bert (And af
 ter adjusting the subject folder settings) It works fine. 
 I ran out of ideas on how to fix it, does anybody have any clue of what can 
 I do?
 Thanks a lot for your help
 Regards
 
 
 
 

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Re: [Freesurfer] save custom made path on surface as label

2012-03-09 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Erhan

this is what we typically use the spherical coordinate system for. Just 
compute the distance along the great circle connecting two points (for 
your example it would be the centroid of the labels, or possibly the max 
of the min over all pairs of points in the two labels, which would be the 
Hausdorff distance).


cheers
Bruce


On Fri, 9 Mar 2012, Erhan Genc wrote:


Hi Bruce, thanks for your reply. I was interested in computing the distance
between two labels (or within a label), the idea was to export the this
path label and e.g lh.orig into matlab and then determine the distance
along the surface.
Do we have tool for this issue in freesurfer?

cheers,

Erhan

2012/3/7 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Yes, you probably need to generate a closed path, or a closed
  cut. I'm not sure if we support saving paths as label files.
  Anyone know?

  Bruce

On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Erhan Genc wrote:

  Dear freesurfer experts,
  I draw a path with the tksurfer tools on a surface, but
  was not able to save this path as a label. During the
  custom fill step it marked the whole
  surface and not just the path. I think it is because the
  path is not closed. Is there still a way to get a path as
  a label file?

  cheers,

  erhan

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  Max Planck Institute for Brain Research
  Department of Neurophysiology
  Deutschordenstr. 46
  60528 Frankfurt am Main
  -GERMANY-
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  fax:    +49 (69) 96769-327
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[Freesurfer] Group comparison

2012-03-09 Thread Allie Rosen
Hi All,

I am trying to compare controls to patients. There is an interaction
between group and age (i.e. the aging pattern is different for both
groups). I did an interaction contrast and this was significant in the same
areas that were significant in the original comparison. I can't switch to a
DOSS model (because the slopes are different). Interestingly, I'm getting
some areas increasing with age as well, but I'm not sure if these results
are valid since some may argue I can't compare the group thicknesses if
there is this interaction. There aren't topologic errors in my samples
either.

Given all this, I'm at a bit of a loss in terms of figuring out how to
compare thicknesses between the groups. Can it still be done?

Thank you,
Allison
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Re: [Freesurfer] DTI analysis: freesurfer vs DTI studio

2012-03-09 Thread Alan Francis
Hi Ayaz:

Both packages are equally good. The main difference, is that DTI studio
runs on Windows while FreeSurfer is Linux/ Unix based. So it depends on
your platform. It also depends on your research question/s.

best,

Alan

BIDMC/ Boston

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

 Hi Ayaz

 I'm not all that familiar with DTI studio. Tracula, which is a package
 within FreeSurfer, automically generates models of 17 or so major white
 matter fascicles with no user intervention required.

 cheers
 Bruce


 On Thu, 8 Mar 2012, Ayaz, Muhammad wrote:


 Dear All,



 I am new to freesurfer DTI analysis. Can anybody explain what is the
 advantage of using freesurfer for DTI analysis over DTI studio?



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Re: [Freesurfer] DTI analysis: freesurfer vs DTI studio

2012-03-09 Thread Priti Srinivasan
Hi Ayaz,

In addition to the platform differences, DTIstudio uses deterministic
tractography algorithm (Fiber Assignment by Continuous Tracking (FACT)
method), whereas the TRACULA uses prior information of anatomy surrounding
the fiber tracts along with a more sensitive probabilistic crossing fibers
algorithm (based on FSL's bedpostX).

Hope this is helpful,

Priti

 Hi Ayaz:

 Both packages are equally good. The main difference, is that DTI studio
 runs on Windows while FreeSurfer is Linux/ Unix based. So it depends on
 your platform. It also depends on your research question/s.

 best,

 Alan

 BIDMC/ Boston

 On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Bruce Fischl
 fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

 Hi Ayaz

 I'm not all that familiar with DTI studio. Tracula, which is a package
 within FreeSurfer, automically generates models of 17 or so major white
 matter fascicles with no user intervention required.

 cheers
 Bruce


 On Thu, 8 Mar 2012, Ayaz, Muhammad wrote:


 Dear All,



 I am new to freesurfer DTI analysis. Can anybody explain what is the
 advantage of using freesurfer for DTI analysis over DTI studio?



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Re: [Freesurfer] GLM for volume

2012-03-09 Thread Douglas N Greve
No, it does not change anything. Just make sure to use the new mris_preproc
ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/mris_preproc

Linda Zhang wrote:
 Dear all,

 In mris_preproc, I see that there's an option to choose volume for 
 --meas, would this change anything in the subsequent GLM processes 
 (mri_surf2surf, mri_glmfit)?  I'm following the tutorial for group 
 analysis, but I haven't seen any mention of measures apart from 
 thickness, so is this even a valid question?  For mri_surf2surf and 
 mri_glmfit, what are the other options for areas apart from --cortex?

 Cheers,
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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: Total WM and GM Vol in FS 5.0.0

2012-03-09 Thread Douglas N Greve
All of those except total brain volume are included in the aseg.stats. 
You can get total brain volume by running
mri_binarize --i aparc+aseg.mgz --o junk.mgh --count brainvol.dat
brainvol.dat will be a text file with the brain volume in it. You can 
delete junk.mgh
doug

Bruce Fischl wrote:
 Hi Dhinakaran.

 I think we include this in one of the stats files. Allison or Doug 
 would know.

 cheers
 Bruce

 On Fri, 9 Mar 2012, Dhinakaran Chinappen wrote:

 Hi Prof. Fischl and Dr.Greve,
 I was wondering if you all got this email below? I sent in to the FS
 listserv early yesterday. 

 Would really appreciate your help on this matter of total WM and 
 total GM.

 Much thanks,
 Dhinakaran.


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Dhinakaran Chinappen dchin...@seas.upenn.edu
 Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:20 PM
 Subject: Total WM and GM Vol in FS 5.0.0
 To: Freesurfer Mailing List freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Cc: Professor Lynnae Schwartz schwart...@email.chop.edu


 Hi all,
 I am using Freesurfer 5.0.0, before the outputs for cortical and 
 subcortical
 GM and WM were made available in the final output files.

 What is the best way to calculate total gray matter volume (cortical and
 subcortical)? Is it through mris_anatomical_stats or mri_segstats? 
 Also, are
 there commands to calculate total cortical and total subcortical 
 volumes of
 GM separately? 

 As for total white matter, is using the sum of the volumes of
 Left-Cerebral-White-Matter and Right-Cerebral-White-Matter considered
 acceptable practice? Or should I go to the command line and use
 mris_wm_volume?

 Thanks in advance for the clarification,
 Dhinakaran.



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[Freesurfer] dt_recon with siemens skyra data

2012-03-09 Thread John Fredy
Hello all, I am trying to process siemen dti data from a skyra model in the
dt_recon software. But the software fails in the conversion from Dicom.
Anyone had experience with the DTI sequence from a skyra model?

Any suggestion is welcome

Thanks in advance

John Ochoa
Bioingeniería
Universidad de Antioquia
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[Freesurfer] error in eating individual label values of area

2012-03-09 Thread Kristine Beate Walhovd
 Hi,

 I am trying to get the individual data points for a label I´ve made for 
 an effect site on area. After making the label, I try to go to group and 
 marked graphed vertices avg. It then just gives me this error message 
 (pasted below)- this has happened on different boxes and w/ different 
 effects. Is there some reason why I can´t do this on area? I am truly 
 grateful for any idea on how to fix this!

 best,

 kristine

 element error110 already exists in .fsgdf-0.gwPlot
 element error110 already exists in .fsgdf-0.gwPlot
 while executing
 $gw element create error$nClass$nErrorIndex  -data $lBar  -color 
 $color  -symbol splus  -label   -pixels 5
 (procedure FsgdfPlot_PlotData line 91)
 invoked from within
 FsgdfPlot_PlotData $iID
 (procedure FsgdfPlot_EndPointList line 5)
 invoked from within
 FsgdfPlot_EndPointList $gGDFID 
 (procedure GDF_SendCurrentPoints line 23)
 invoked from within
 GDF_SendCurrentPoints
 (procedure GDF_PlotAvgMarkedVerts line 4)
 invoked from within
 GDF_PlotAvgMarkedVerts 
 invoked from within
 .w.fwMenuBar.mbwTools.mw.cmw14 invoke active
 (uplevel body line 1)
 invoked from within
 uplevel #0 [list $w invoke active]
 (procedure tk::MenuInvoke line 47)
 invoked from within
 tk::MenuInvoke .w.fwMenuBar.mbwTools.mw.cmw14 1
 (command bound to event)


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