Re: [Freesurfer] bbregister for fmri FEAT data

2012-04-22 Thread Erlend Hodneland
 Hi again,

the registration looks fine in tkregister2, but is apparently wrong in
fslview (and also mricron). See the attached files (as link from
http://vedlegg.uib.no/?id=399ad2cce1a3138f8eb4f6a06f4acfc4) showing
screenshots of fslview and tkregister2. How can this be explained, and how
can we visualize the correct orientation in fslview?
What does this misalignment influence any further processing with fnirt and
concatenation of the affine transformation fields?

This is our command we run for bbregister:

bbregister --s subj_505 --mov vol0001.nii.gz --reg register-test.dat
--init-fsl  --t2 --o test.nii.gz

where vol0001 is the first volume in the fmri sequence and is flipped to
align with LAS (as the highres).

Thank you for your kind help,

Erlend Hodneland

ean that it is in the wrong orientation? It should be in
the same orientation as the anatomical. How does the reg look in
tkregister2? Note that fslview can display volumes in odd orientations
even when the orientation is correct.
doug

On 04/13/2012 03:31 AM, Erlend Hodneland wrote:
 Hi,

 we are trying to register fmri FEAT data (example_func.nii) to the
 anatomical scan  (processed in Freesurfer) using bbregister to opt.
 the affine registration before running FNIRT.

 However, the orientation of the registered image is flipped around and
 is incorrect after applying bbregister.

 We have tried:

 1)  bbregister --s subj_501 --mov example_func.nii.gz --reg
 register.dat  --init-header --bold --o example_func2highres-fs.nii
 2)  bbregister --s subj_501 --mov example_func.nii.gz --reg
 register.dat  --init-fsl --bold --o example_func2highres-fs.nii
 3)  bbregister --s subj_501  --o example_func2highres-fs.nii --feat
 myfeatdirectory
 4) tkregister2 --mov example_func.nii --regheader --reg tkreg.dat
 (this one looks correct)
 followed by
 bbregister --s subj_501 --mov example_func.nii.gz --reg register.dat
 --init-reg tkreg.dat --bold --o example_func2highres-fs.nii

 5) reorienting to match the highres:

 fslorient -swaporient example_func
  fslswapdim example_func x -y z example_func_swap (correct
 orientation)

 followed by
 bbregister --s subj_501 --mov example_func_swap.nii.gz --reg
 register.dat  --init-fsl --bold --o example_func_swap2highres-fs.nii

 with the output being flipped in wrong orientation for all options.

 We would greatly appreciate if you have any suggestions for how to
 overcome this problem!

 Cheers/Sincerly/All best

 Erlend Hodneland
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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_expand not working since upgrading to v.5.1.0

2012-04-22 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Andrew,

I just tried this and it worked fine for me. If you tell me what 
os/hardware you are running on I'll send you a current binary and you can 
see if that works.


cheers
Bruce

p.s. do you look at the surfaces via:

freeview -f lh.white lh.white.expanded

On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Andrew C 
Yourich wrote:




Hello,

 

I have recently upgraded from running version 4.0.2 of Freesurfer to the
most current version (v.5.1.0), and have encountered a problem. I used to be
able to expand the recon-all generated white matter volume by a percentage
of the grey matter thickness using mris_expand, but ever since changing to
the most current version, the mris_expand command is not returning correct
results. The command I use is:

 

mris_expand -thickness ./lh.white $1 lh.white.expanded

 

where $1 is a variable indicating the percentage I wish to expand by. Since
the version change, mris_expand does not seem to actually change the volume
of lh.white, with the output file lh.white.expanded looking identical to
lh.white after running the command. This occurs regardless of the value I
enter for $1 (be it very large, very small, or even negative) The command
appears to run normally as it did in v.4.0.2 and does not give any error
message, but the output volume appears unchanged from the input volume.

 

Have the parameters or flags for this command changed between the versions,
or has mris_expand been deprecated? If so, what flags or command should I
use instead?

 

Thanks,

 

- Andrew


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[Freesurfer] Definition of Surface Area Metric

2012-04-22 Thread Dhinakaran Chinappen
Dear Freesurfer Experts,

Would you mind clarifying what the measure of surface area anatomically
means? Is it the area of the pial surface?

Thanks in advance,
Dhinakaran.
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Re: [Freesurfer] Definition of Surface Area Metric

2012-04-22 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Dhinakaran

it can be the area of any surface. We generate both the white and pial 
surfaces by default (I think the white is named [lr]h.area while the pial 
is [lr]h.area.pial


cheers
Bruce


On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Dhinakaran Chinappen wrote:


Dear Freesurfer Experts,

Would you mind clarifying what the measure of surface area anatomically
means? Is it the area of the pial surface? 

Thanks in advance,
Dhinakaran.

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Re: [Freesurfer] improving automated cerebellar parcellation

2012-04-22 Thread Anthony Dick
Hi Bruce,

Can you point me somewhere in the right direction? Is there some example 
I could start with? I don't use Matlab, although it seems similar to R 
so I should be okay with learning the syntax, but I just need a place to 
start.

Anthony

On 4/20/12 4:02 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 probably in matlab
 On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Anthony Dick wrote:

 Thanks Bruce. What's the easiest way to paste those labels. 
 Manually through tkmedit, or through the command line?

 Anthony

 On 4/20/12 3:53 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 HI Anthony

 I would make sure to include an entire brain labeling in the 
 training set. You can do this by pasting your manual labels into our 
 aseg of the subjects in question.

 cheers
 Bruce



 On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Anthony Dick wrote:


 Hello,

 I developed a new atlas for parcellating the cerebellum, based on 20
 brains manually segmented by Jörn Diedrichsen, which he was kind 
 enough
 to share (note these also formed the basis for his 2009 paper in
 Neuroimage (46; 39-46).

 I got the segmentation to work, but I would not say it works well. As
 you can see from the attached image, it is not ready for 
 prime-time. On
 the left is the brain of subject 1, manually segmented. On the 
 right is
 the brain of the same subject with the automated sementation, based on
 the developed atlas.

 My question is, how can I improve it? I realize this is an open 
 question
 and potentially difficult to answer without some probing, but this 
 is a
 resource I think a lot of users would like to have access to, so 
 perhaps
 it is worth the effort.

 Anthony




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