Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula preprocessing step error

2013-01-10 Thread Christophe Destrieux
Hi I add the same problem; It finally worked : 

- using libreoffice instead of excel to transpose the bvec/bval files ;
- with english as linguisitic parameter,
- save the file as cvs document, with the filter parameters box checked
- in the filer option choose "space" as field separator; " as text separator, 
"unicode UTF-8" as encoding

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- Mail original -
> De: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
> À: "Allison Gruber" 
> Cc: Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Envoyé: Mercredi 9 Janvier 2013 22:43:01
> Objet: Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula preprocessing step error
> 
> 
> Hi Allison - Instead of using excel, I would use a unix-based text
> editor,
> whichever is available on the system where you are running the
> analyses.
> This way you can ensure that unix commands read your text files
> properly.
> 
> The 3 values for each diffusion gradient vector are its x, y, z
> components, so I wouldn't change their order, unless you have reason
> to
> believe that the order is not correct the way it was given to you.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> a.y
> 
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Allison Gruber wrote:
> 
> > Hi Anastasia,
> >
> > Thanks so much for your help. I was able to correct this problem in
> > my
> > configuration file. I have now run into another error- "bvecs and
> > bvals don't have the same number of entries." I have read other
> > postings about this error and can see that my bvec file is not
> > formatted correctly when I import into Excel. However, I am not
> > sure
> > how to correctly fix this formatting. I know that I have 28 bval
> > entries and
> > 84 bvec entries, so the overall number is correct. I am just
> > unclear on how
> > to fix the formatting of the bvec file so that it corresponds
> > correctly to
> > the ordering in the bval file (which order the bvec entries should
> > appear in
> > within the three columns). Do you have any resources on this?
> >
> > Thank you again for your help,
> > Allison
> >
> > Quoting Anastasia Yendiki :
> >
> >> 
> >> Hi Allison - The mri_convert command at the top of your log file
> >> is
> >> trying to convert the directory
> >> /Users/Desktop/Tracula/diffusion_DTI to
> >> a nifti file. From the name of that nifti file, it looks like it's
> >> expecting to find a field map and not finding it.
> >> 
> >> Hope this helps,
> >> a.y
> >> 
> >> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013, Allison Gruber wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Dear Freesurfer experts,
> >> > 
> >> > I have encountered the following error while running the tracula
> >> > pre-processing command and was hoping you could help me
> >> > understand how
> >> > to correct this.
> >> > 
> >> > Selection from log:
> >> > 
> >> > mri_convert /Users/Desktop/Tracula/diffusion_DTI/
> >> > /Users/Desktop/Tracula/diffusion_DTI/SubjectX/dmri/b0mag.nii.gz
> >> > mri_convert /Users/Desktop/Tracula/diffusion_DTI/
> >> > /Users/Desktop/Tracula/diffusion_DTI/SubjectX/dmri/b0mag.nii.gz
> >> > corRead(): can't open file
> >> > /Users/Desktop/Tracula/diffusion_DTI/COR-.info
> >> > $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.2 2011/05/16 20:53:47 greve Exp $
> >> > reading from /Users/Desktop/Tracula/diffusion_DTI/...
> >> > Darwin MacBook-Pro.local 11.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 11.4.0:
> >> > Mon Apr
> >> > 9 19:32:15 PDT 2012; root:xnu-1699.26.8~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
> >> > 
> >> > trac-preproc exited with ERRORS at Tue Jan  8 14:34:39 EST 2013
> >> > 
> >> > Please let me know if this is not enough information. Thank you
> >> > for
> >> > your help.
> >> > 
> >> > Allison
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Re: [Freesurfer] freesurfer question

2013-01-10 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Catherine

can you clarify? Are you getting them properly segmented in the aseg? Is 
this a disease population? There are a bunch of things going on in the 
images you sent, although it's hard to be sure from a single slice. It 
looks like your bandwidth is low enough that you are getting a lot of 
signal pileup in temporal regions. There also appear to be cortical 
lesions.

Bruce


On Thu, 
10 Jan 2013, Catherine Bois wrote:

> Ps. I have attached a few screenshots of the problem we are experiencing, to 
> clarify. We are also getting large areas of hyper-intensive white matter too.
>
>
> Quoting Bruce Fischl  on Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:52:08 
> -0500 (EST):
>
>> Hi Catherine
>> 
>> what version are you running? We have a fix in 5.2 that helps this problem. 
>> It's not quite out yet, but you could download a beta if you want
>> 
>> cheers
>> Bruce
>> 
>> On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Catherine Bois wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I am currently editing some scans (ie adding control points etc),
>>> however I keep finding that after the editing often the brains look
>>> "worse" than they did before; especially the medial temporal lobe
>>> area. I have taken care not to put too many control points in/made
>>> sure not to place them in partial volume areas, and only in areas that
>>> are clearly excluded white matter. This problem has happened
>>> repeatedly, yet looking at scans that my colleagues have edited (some
>>> with up to 2000 control points) this problem does not occur. Has this
>>> happened before, is it the software "malfunctioning" in some way?
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much for your reply,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [Freesurfer] QA Tools Snaps Scrambled - Follow up

2013-01-10 Thread Irwin, William
Hi Louis-

I dug a little deeper and examined the rgb files before conversion. The problem 
is not with the IM conversion, it is with the capture. For example, 
'_curv_lh_lat.rgb' is just fine, but from the same subject 
'snapshot-talairach-H-128.rgb' is garbage.

Any ideas on this?

Thanks,
Wil

-Original Message-
From: Irwin, William 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 6:22 AM
To: Louis Nicholas Vinke
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu; Irwin, William
Subject: RE: [Freesurfer] QA Tools Snaps Scrambled - Clairification

Hi Louis-

I was speaking cryptically and/or imprecisely. Of course there are dependencies 
for IM-- in fact about 8 libraries which are uniquely required by IM. I was 
thinking about a higher (or lower) level of dependency. This would suggest a 
more system-level problem, but I'm not having problems with any of the other 
apps running on my system. Obviously I'm not asking you to help diagnose the 
health of my system, but though you might have some thoughts/suggestions.

Regards,
Wil

-Original Message-
From: Irwin, William
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Louis Nicholas Vinke
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu; Irwin, William
Subject: RE: [Freesurfer] QA Tools Snaps Scrambled

Hi Louis-

No problem doing command line conversion of an rgb to either jpg or gif in 
terms of error messages. However, the converted files are scrambled. Might 
there be a dependency on which ImageMagick relies which still in place, but 
corrupted? I was under the impression ImageMagick was self-contained.

This is a real mystery

-Wil

-Original Message-
From: Louis Nicholas Vinke [mailto:vi...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 6:29 PM
To: Irwin, William
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] QA Tools Snaps Scrambled

Hi Irwin,
It sounds like the snapshots from tksurfer are fine, but the ones from tkmedit 
are not being generated properly.  It may be this peculiar bug where 
ImageMagick has trouble reading rgb files. Try converting an rgb file to a jpg 
'convert file.rgb file.jpg'.  You may get the error 'Improper image header'.  
The tksurfer tcl script saves tiff files, the tkmedit tcl script saves rgbs, 
which may explain why some images are fine.
-Louis

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013, Irwin, William wrote:

> 
> Hi-
> 
>  
> 
> I’ve come across a peculiar behavior with recon_checker, and am hoping 
> someone can shed some light on this.
> 
>  
> 
> I have used it 100’s of times in the past, but not for about 2 months. 
> I recently processed a large set of cases I wanted to QC. When I ran 
> it, some, but not all, of the snaps were corrupted. Specifically the 
> talairach, aseg, surfs, and all the ‘detailed snaps’, which are 
> basically additional instances of the aforementioned types. The 
> inflated, curv, and parc are all just fine. As the process runs, all 
> images are being displayed in the pop-up windows, and the html page is 
> created.
> 
>  
> 
> While there have been no system changes which should affect this, I 
> upgraded from ImageMagick 6.5.4 to 6.8.1 to see if this would fix the 
> problem. The problem remains. And the problem remains w/ or w/o the 
> flag for detailed snaps.
> 
>  
> 
> If all of the images were corrupted, I would have certainly concluded 
> something has gone awry with my system. The fact that only some of the 
> images are corrupted makes me scratch my head.
> 
>  
> 
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Wil
> 
> 
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Re: [Freesurfer] FreeSurfer problem on VirtualBox Linux

2013-01-10 Thread Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior
Unfortunately Windows XP SP3 is no longer Tier-1 supported for VirtualBox.

I suggest you to try it on Windows 7 or Windows 8.

cheers

PPJ

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> Carissa,
>
> Unfortunately I dont think we can help with this problem, as we
> currently do not have the resources to support the Windows VM instance.
> However, an alternative that has worked for others is to do the
> following: install the FSL Windows VM, described here:
>
> http://fsl.fmrib.ox.ac.uk/fsl/fslwiki/FslInstallation/Windows
>
> once that is up-and-running, then within that linux instance, just
> download and install our linux centos 4 freesurfer build.  this also
> means you can update to v5.2 when that is released in a couple weeks.
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 08:34 +, Carissa Nadia Kuswanto (IMH) wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> >
> >
> > My operating system is Windows XP SP3 and it has been loaded with
> > VirtualBox 4.2.6 for Windows hosts and we would like to run
> > freesurfer-Virtualbox-linux-x86-stable-pub-v5.1.0-full.vdi. But when
> > we attempt to launch FreeSurfer, the terminal seems to hang with the
> > following message:
> >
> >
> >
> > GRUB loading stage 1.5
> >
> > GRUB loading, please wait...
> >
> >
> >
> > Would you kindly help us on how to overcome this problem? I thank you
> > in advance for your kind attention.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Carissa
> >
> >
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[Freesurfer] Fwd: Problems in testing out newly installed Freesurfer with autorecon-1 option

2013-01-10 Thread Susan Kuo
Thank you, Nick. I tried using fixup_mni_paths, but received a poor result.
I copied the stdout below:

***
yocto/j/dti7/Susie/freesurfer/subjects> su
Password:
root@yocto:/j/dti7/Susie/freesurfer/subjects# fixup_mni_paths
fixup_mni_paths: command not found
root@yocto:/j/dti7/Susie/freesurfer/subjects# cd $FREESURFER_HOME/bin
root@yocto:/usr/local/freesurfer/bin# fixup_mni_paths
fixup_mni_paths: command not found
root@yocto:/usr/local/freesurfer/bin# ./fixup_mni_paths
Using perl '/usr/bin/perl'
Patching autocrop...(original file saved to autocrop.old)
Patching field2imp...(original file saved to field2imp.old)
Patching imp2field...(original file saved to imp2field.old)
Patching make_template...(original file saved to make_template.old)
Patching mritoself...(original file saved to mritoself.old)
Patching mritotal...(original file saved to mritotal.old)
Patching nu_correct...(original file saved to nu_correct.old)
Patching nu_estimate...(original file saved to nu_estimate.old)
Patching nu_estimate_np_and_em...(original file saved to
nu_estimate_np_and_em.old)
Patching nu_evaluate...(original file saved to nu_evaluate.old)
Patching resample_labels...(original file saved to resample_labels.old)
Patching sharpen_volume...(original file saved to sharpen_volume.old)
Patching xfmtool...(original file saved to xfmtool.old)
done.
Here are the changes:
diff autocrop autocrop.old
diff field2imp field2imp.old
diff imp2field imp2field.old
diff make_template make_template.old
diff mritoself mritoself.old
diff mritotal mritotal.old
diff nu_correct nu_correct.old
diff nu_estimate nu_estimate.old
diff nu_estimate_np_and_em nu_estimate_np_and_em.old
diff nu_evaluate nu_evaluate.old
diff resample_labels resample_labels.old
diff sharpen_volume sharpen_volume.old
diff xfmtool xfmtool.old
done.
Note: not all systems will require a patch,
and may not show any differences.
Now a test of the MNI tool 'nu_correct'...
nu_correct: Command not found.
A version number and usage message should have been displayed.
***

I double-checked that /usr/bin/perl exists, so that's ok. I've been
crawling the forums, but I can't find a good answer for what appears to be
a simple problem. Can I fix this manually?

Thanks!
Susie

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Nick Schmansky wrote:

> Susan,
>
> there appear to be two problems here.  the first and main problem is the
> one:
>
> nu_correct: Command not found.
>
> nu_correct is a script which has as its first line:
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
>
> so can you check that you have perl installed at /usr/bin/perl?
>
> better yet, run this script:
>
> fixup_mni_paths
>
> which does the checking for you and attempts to fix the scripts.
>
> the other problem appears to be the fact that mri_nu_correct.mni doesnt
> exit upon finding the error that the files are missing.  this is bad,
> although in looking at the script, it ought to.   the next release will
> contain a double check.  from the looks of your script, it appears that
> you are running recon-all with a subject that had its data already
> processed, so nu.mgz existed already, so it just used that and continued
> on.  so the results are correct (assuming nu.mgz was decent to begin
> with), but resolving the nu_correct issue is the important thing to do.
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 11:00 -0500, Susan Kuo wrote:
> > Hi,
> >   I'm currently in the process of verifying that my install of
> > Freesurfer works. I have an Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS box. I encountered what
> > appeared to be 4 errors after running  recon-all -s bert -autorecon1.
> > The last line I included here states that the command completed
> > without error, so I'm not sure if I should be concerned
> > thatnu_correct wasn't found, or that there were loading errors, and
> > a mincREAD() error. Could you help me identify what I need to do to
> > correct these issues? I've included the standard output for this
> > command as a text file here. There appear to be 4 issues:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ***ISSUE 1: cannot find nu_correct *
> > nu_correct: Command not found.
> > INFO: current FREESURFER_HOME does not match that of previous
> > processing.
> >
> >
> > ***ISSUE 2: No such file or directory error
> > cp: cannot stat `./tmp.mri_nu_correct.mni.25253/nu2.mnc': No such file
> > or directory
> > mri_binarize --i ./tmp.mri_nu_correct.mni.25253/nu2.mnc --min -1
> > --o ./tmp.mri_nu_correct.mni.25253/ones.mgz
> > mincRead(): can't find file ./tmp.mri_nu_correct.mni.25253/nu2.mnc
> >
> >
> > ***ISSUE 3: Loading error**
> > Loading ./tmp.mri_nu_correct.mni.25253/ones.mgz
> > ERROR: loading ./tmp.mri_nu_correct.mni.25253/ones.mgz
> > mri_segstats --id 1 --seg ./tmp.mri_nu_correct.mni.25253/ones.mgz
> > --i ./tmp.mri_nu_correct.mni.25253/nu2.mnc
> > --sum ./tmp.mri_nu_correct.mni.25253/sum.junk
> > --avgwf ./tmp.mri_nu_correct.mni.25253/output.mean.dat
> > mghRead(./tmp.mri_nu_correct.mni.25253/ones.mgz, -1): could not open
> > file
> 

[Freesurfer] reversing recon-all resampling

2013-01-10 Thread Jeff Eriksen
I have been asked to use FreeSurfer to create a good brain mask for use in 
another analysis stream (DTI and other things). I have chosen to do this by 
running recon-all on the structural scan, then taking the (aseg+aparc) and 
using FSL to dilate and erode to fill holes. This I binarize and rotate back 
into the same orientation as the original structural volume, and finally strip 
the padding added by recon-all, thus making the mask match the original T1 so 
it can be overlaid properly.

The only problem is that, besides rotating and padding, recon-all also 
resamples to exactly 1.0 isovoxel, whereas the original T1 was 1.0 x 1.0 x 1.1 
mm. Thus, I need to find a way to undo this resampling. Best I can determine 
this happens in the recon-all stream near the beginning where is seems to 
create some Talariach transform.

Any ideas how to undo this xform, or can you suggest a better way to accomplish 
my goal.

-Jeff Eriksen

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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all error

2013-01-10 Thread Douglas Greve


Does the disk have space on it? It could also be a virtualbox problem, 
in which case I'll leave it for others.

doug


On 1/10/13 8:29 PM, ZhiLiangLong wrote:

Hi everyone:
   I am using freesurfer 5.1.0 to run my own data to compute 
cortical thickness in VirtualBox. When it runs the command:
  "mri_aparc2aseg --s chong_lan --labelwm --hypo-as-wm --rip-unknown 
--volmask --o mri/wmparc.mgz --ctxseg aparc+aseg.mgz ", it got 
errors("mghRead(/mnt/hgfs/DATA/Freesurfer/chong_lan/mri/aparc+aseg.mgz): 
could not read 262144 bytes at slice 184").  I have no idea how to 
make it correct. I need help.

 The detials are in the attachment.




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Re: [Freesurfer] reversing recon-all resampling

2013-01-10 Thread Douglas Greve

Hi Jeff, see if this page answers your question
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsAnat-to-NativeAnat
doug



On 1/10/13 6:24 PM, Jeff Eriksen wrote:
I have been asked to use FreeSurfer to create a good brain mask for 
use in another analysis stream (DTI and other things). I have chosen 
to do this by running recon-all on the structural scan, then taking 
the (aseg+aparc) and using FSL to dilate and erode to fill holes. This 
I binarize and rotate back into the same orientation as the original 
structural volume, and finally strip the padding added by recon-all, 
thus making the mask match the original T1 so it can be overlaid properly.


The only problem is that, besides rotating and padding, recon-all also 
resamples to exactly 1.0 isovoxel, whereas the original T1 was 1.0 x 
1.0 x 1.1 mm. Thus, I need to find a way to undo this resampling. Best 
I can determine this happens in the recon-all stream near the 
beginning where is seems to create some Talariach transform.


Any ideas how to undo this xform, or can you suggest a better way to 
accomplish my goal.


-Jeff Eriksen



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