[Freesurfer] missing DOSS option in QDEC

2013-05-21 Thread Andreas Berger
Hi surfers,

as of FreeSurfer version 5.3, i am missing the option to choose between DOSS 
and DODS design in QDEC. The radiobuttons in the design tab are no longer 
there. The default behaviour, judging from the results, seems to be DODS. Has 
this option been removed?


regards,
Andreas
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[Freesurfer] question abt optic chaism volume

2013-05-21 Thread Ritobrato Datta
Hi All,

I am using freesurfer 5.1 for my analysis. In FS 5.1, does the Supratentorial 
volume include the Optic chaism volume ? 

Please let me know. 

Thanks

Ri
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Re: [Freesurfer] missing DOSS option in QDEC

2013-05-21 Thread Nick Schmansky
Andreas,

DOSS was removed from qdec because the contrast generation code in qdec
was not appropriate for it (and we didnt have time to add it).  You will
have to use the command-line mri_glmfit and create your own contrasts to
use DOSS.  There are examples on the wiki i think.

Nick


 Hi surfers,

 as of FreeSurfer version 5.3, i am missing the option to choose between
 DOSS
 and DODS design in QDEC. The radiobuttons in the design tab are no longer
 there. The default behaviour, judging from the results, seems to be DODS.
 Has
 this option been removed?


 regards,
 Andreas
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Re: [Freesurfer] ERROR: recon-all -subcortseg

2013-05-21 Thread Nick Schmansky
Akio,

You should just run -autorecon2 instead of -subcortseg in order to get the
subcortical segmentation.

Nick


 Hi Freesurfer experts,

 After installing v5.3.0 (CentOS 6 64bit), the command recon-all -s test
 -i sample-001.mgz -i sample-002.mgz -autorecon1 finished without error.

 Then, when I ran recon-all -s test -subcortseg, I got the following
 error:

 ==
 $Id: mri_segstats.c,v 1.75.2.9 2013/02/16 00:09:33 greve Exp $
 cwd
 cmdline mri_segstats --seg mri/aseg.mgz --sum stats/aseg.stats --pv
 mri/norm.mgz --empty --brainmask mri/brainmask.mgz --brain-vol-from-seg
 --excludeid 0 --excl-ctxgmwm --subcortgray --in mri/norm.mgz
 --in-intensity-name norm --in-intensity-units MR --etiv --ctab
 /usr/local/freesurfer/5.3.0/dist/ASegStatsLUT.txt --subject test
 sysname Linux
 hostname dhcp006
 machine x86_64
 user yamamoto
 UseRobust 0
 atlas_icv (eTIV) = 1629767 mm^3 (det: 1.195328 )
 MRISread(/home/yamamoto/freesurfer/5.3.0/dist/subjects/test/surf/lh.white):
 could not open file
 ==

 I encountered this error in v5.2.0, and am still having the same error
 in v5.3.0.
 Is this a known issue?

 I attached the recon-all.log file. Any help is greatly appreciated.

 Best,
 Akio
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Re: [Freesurfer] Autorecon2 missing ribbon.mgz error?

2013-05-21 Thread Nick Schmansky
Jamie,

Does running with the -all flag run all the way to complete without error?
 We recommend running with -all and then inspect for defects afterwards
instead of running the first run in stages.

Nick


 Hi Freesurfer List-

 My group just recently installed 5.3.0 and I kept running into the same
 error during -autorecon2 where mri_segstats could find ribbon.mgz.

 I was slightly stumped on the issue, as the ReconAllTable says
 mri_segstats
 isn't run until autorecon3? I attached my bugr output and also my log file
 for one subject (I have about 10+ subjects that error in the same way).

 It looks like -inflate2 finished fine (which was previously one of the
 last
 steps in autorecon2). Any thoughts? Any help is greatly appreciated!

 Thanks much!

 Best,
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[Freesurfer] brain parenchymal fraction calculation

2013-05-21 Thread Ritobrato Datta
Hi All,

I am using freesurfer 5.1 and I want to compute the brain parenchymal fraction 
(GM+WM/GM+WM+ventricularCSF). 

In aseg.stats, I get the whole GM vol and I can also get the total ventricular 
CSF by adding the vols of different ventricles. 

But I am confused abt the terminology - CorticalWhiteMatterVol

is this volume the total white matter in the brain or does this exclude 
something ? 

Please advise. 

Best

Ri
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Re: [Freesurfer] brain parenchymal fraction calculation

2013-05-21 Thread Douglas N Greve
It excludes WM in cerebellum and brain stem.
doug
On 05/21/2013 10:31 AM, Ritobrato Datta wrote:
 Hi All,

 I am using freesurfer 5.1 and I want to compute the brain parenchymal 
 fraction (GM+WM/GM+WM+ventricularCSF).

 In aseg.stats, I get the whole GM vol and I can also get the total 
 ventricular CSF by adding the vols of different ventricles.

 But I am confused abt the terminology - CorticalWhiteMatterVol

 is this volume the total white matter in the brain or does this exclude 
 something ?

 Please advise.

 Best

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Re: [Freesurfer] How to extract subjects' volume based on mask from spm?

2013-05-21 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Mingxia, if you have a binarized map, then just use --id 1 with 
mri_cor2label (not need to for mri_binarize if it is already binary)
doug



On 05/21/2013 03:55 AM, zhang mingxia wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 Thanks very much. A few more question after I read the description of 
 mri_cor2label.

 1. there is a compulsory of mri_cor2label: --id (0-255). How can I 
 find the 'labelid'?

 2. If I understand correctly, the final label will be made within 
 one particular 'labelid'. How if this mask is in more than one labels 
 (Sorry I haven't used Freesurfer for a long time, my understanding is 
 the labelids represent different regions. It may be wrong) ?

 3. I have had the binarized mask created from spm, do I also need to 
 use mri_binarize?

 Mingxia


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 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 Try mri_binarize followed by mri_cor2label
 doug





 On 05/20/2013 03:57 AM, zhang mingxia wrote:
  Dear Freesurfer experts,
 
  I analyzed functional data by spm and made a mask (analyze
 format). I
  have also run recon-all of structural data.
 
  My question is: how to extract mean volume (from structural data) of
  the mask(from spm)?
 
  I only extracted volume(or thickness) of ROI of a label edited by
  myself and annotation file. If I can convert analyze format to a
 label
  or annotation file, I can use that method. But how to convert
 analyze
  format to a label or annotation?
 
  Or is there any easy way?
 
  Thanks in advance!
 
  Mingxia Zhang
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Can I mask out NaN vertices for smoothing?

2013-05-21 Thread Douglas N Greve
you can use mris_fwhm with the mask option. Just give it a maks of the 
places that are NOT NaNs
doug

On 05/21/2013 09:37 AM, Glen Lee wrote:
 Inline image 1


 Hi freesurfer experts,

 I'm dealing with an issue with smoothing on surface data that
 unfortunately contain 'NaN' in the ventral temporal region (which
 is a region that we are interested in).

 This may be due to the slab data acquisition, where the bottom of
 the slice meant to be at the bottom of the tomporal lobe for every
 subject. Apparently, we didn't quite succeed in this as we saw
 missing data points that are filled with 'NaN' during 2D
 reconstruction in some subjects' 2D data.

 In the cartoon above, the yellow color depicts vertices with 'NaN'
 in the ventral temporal region , and you can easily see how this
 is affected by smoothing (4mm FWHM), such that a large swath of
 ventral regions have NaNs after smoothing.

 I've tried smoothing both with and without --cortex flag, but the
 results were the same regardless.

 So, the best bet would be masking out those NaN vertices before
 smoothing and I wonder if there is any way of doing it in freesurfer.
 Otherwise, I may need to consider smoothing outside of the
 freesurfer using Matlab (but I have no experience about this
 approach).

 If anyone has previously dealt with this issue (hope I'm not the
 only one) and know how to get around with it either inside or
 outside of the freesurfer, please help me.
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Re: [Freesurfer] error in longitudinal processing dimension mismatch

2013-05-21 Thread Qi Wu
Dear Martin,

Thank you for your helpful information. You were right that something had
gone wrong with my preprocessing (for some unknown reasons). I re-run the
preprocessing and was able to get the long_mris_slopes command
up-and-running.

Keith


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Martin Reuter
mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

  Hi Keith,

 your longitudinal qdec file looks OK. Something must have gone wrong
 before (in the processing, e.g. maybe the base was reprocessed and the
 longs were not updated or things were renamed?)

 I would create a new directory with only this subject, then start from
 scratch. create both cross (kp5 and kp5b), the base (kp5_base) and both
 longs with the correct naming . Then check if the long_mris_slopes command
 still fails.

 Best, Martin


 On 05/01/2013 12:11 PM, Qi Wu wrote:

 Dear Freesurfer experts,

 I have a dataset of 2 time points. I ran into problems when I tried to use
 the two-stage approach to pull out statistics such as the rate of change in
 Freesurfer 5.1.

 I could not even get the first stage working. The error messages I got
 were “ERROR: MRISar1: Surf/Src dimension mismatch” “ERROR -11 : mri_glmfit
 did not work?”

 I did further trouble-shooting for this particular message nv1 = 140942,
 nv1 = 143525, and I found out that 143525 was in the base folder
 (kp5_base), and 140942 was for the two longitudinally registered images
 (kp5.long.kp5_base, and kp5b.long.kp5_base).

 The command line I used was : “long_mris_slopes --qdec
 ./qdec/AS_long_qdec.dat --meas thickness --hemi lh --do-avg --do-rate
 --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label --time weeks –nosmooth”.

 The first three lines in the qdec file:

 “fsid fsid-base weeks age sex FSS avgPain

 kp5 kp5_base 0 48 0 4.1 7

 kp5b kp5_base 20 48 0 8.6 6”

 This error was similar to what was in a previous post (
 https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail/freesurfer/2012-June/024576.htmlby 
 joost janssen Jun 29, 2012). I tried to fix any similar problems, but
 still wasn’t able to get it working.

 What else could I have been doing wrong?

 The on screen error output is provided as follows

 Many thanks

 Keith

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 Toronto Western Hospital
 Toronto, Ontario
 Canada

 ***

 Parsing the qdec table: ./qdec/AS_long_qdec.dat

 Working in SUBJECTS_DIR:
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old

 Subject-Template: kp5_base

 INFO: 2 TPs in kp5_base , mean age: 10.0

 ===


 SUBJECT kp5_base Intersecting Within-Subject Cortex Label

 cp
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5.long.kp5_base/label/lh.cortex.label
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/label/lh.long.cortex.label


 mris_label_calc intersect
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5b.long.kp5_base/label/lh.cortex.label
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/label/lh.long.cortex.label
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/label/lh.long.cortex.label


 LabelWrite: saving to
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/label/lh.long.cortex.label

 ===


 SUBJECT kp5_base Stackinbg Within-Subject Maps

 mri_concat
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5.long.kp5_base/surf/lh.thickness
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5b.long.kp5_base/surf/lh.thickness
 --o
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/surf/lh.long.thickness-stack.mgh

 ninputs = 2

 Checking inputs

 nframestot = 2

 Allocing output

 Done allocing

 nframes = 2

 Writing to
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/surf/lh.long.thickness-stack.mgh

 ===


 SUBJECT kp5_base Running Within-Subject GLM

 Writing ./tmp-kp5_base_lh_thickness_6PR2rH/X-long.mat ...

 mri_glmfit --y
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/surf/lh.long.thickness-stack.mgh
 --X ./tmp-kp5_base_lh_thickness_6PR2rH/X-long.mat --allow-zero-dof
 --no-contrasts-ok --surf kp5_base lh --label
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/label/lh.long.cortex.label
 --glmdir ./tmp-kp5_base_lh_thickness_6PR2rH/glm

 Reading source surface
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/surf/lh.white

 Number of vertices 143525

 Number of faces 287046

 Total area 91438.851562

 AvgVtxArea 0.637094

 AvgVtxDist 0.873064

 StdVtxDist 0.245806

 $Id: mri_glmfit.c,v 1.196.2.6 2011/05/05 20:54:25 greve Exp $

 cwd /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old

 cmdline mri_glmfit --y
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/surf/lh.long.thickness-stack.mgh
 --X 

Re: [Freesurfer] tensor fitting with dt_recon: skull strip

2013-05-21 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Vincent, I don't think it is supposed to be. Is that a problem?
doug


On 05/21/2013 09:02 AM, Vincent Koppelmans wrote:
 Dear FreeSurfer experts,

 I have used dt_recon for tensor fitting of my diffusion data. I used 
 the following syntax:

 dt_recon --i dwi.nii.gz --b data.bval data.bvec --s subject_ID --o 
 /DTI --no-reg --no-tal

 When I inspect the FA data, the tensor fitting itself looks good, but 
 the data is not skull stripped:

 FA map:

 mask:

 I was wondering if I did something wrong and how I should fix this.

 Thanks for your help.

 Best,

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Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-21 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
Hi!
I am trying to work around this now using more control points.
However, I was wondering whether the fixed version of mri_segment for
v4.5 that accepts the -p parameter is still available? Just in case I
need to use a different threshold at some point.
Thanks, Caspar




2013/5/17 Caspar M. Schwiedrzik cschwie...@rockefeller.edu:
 Hi Bruce,
 I only put them in because it was not working without them and that
 was the solution in the previous discussion.
 To summarize: Once I put in -p 0.7, mri_segment misinterprets 0.7 as
 the input file name, no matter whether I use -i or not.
 Caspar

 2013/5/17 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:
 Try leaving out the -i and -seg
 Those are mandatory parameters and don't need hyphens

 On May 17, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik 
 cschwie...@mail.rockefeller.edu wrote:

 Hi Matt and Bruce,
 still the same problem. What about the fix that was mentioned in the
 earlier discussion? Was that not for version 4.5?
 Caspar

 2013/5/17 Matt Glasser m...@ma-tea.com:
 Your line continuation isn't working for some reason?  Type the command
 line all on one line and see if that fixes the problem.

 Matt.

 On 5/17/13 1:37 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
 cschwie...@mail.rockefeller.edu wrote:

 set threshold = `echo 7/10 | bc -l`
 set segment_options = -v -fillv -fillbg -wlo 104 -ghi 118  -whi 140
 -n 4 -p $threshold -keep

 mri_segment ${segment_options} \
 -i brain.mgz -seg wm.mgz

 filling ventricles
 filling basal ganglia
 using white lolim = 104.0
 using gray hilim = 118.0
 using white hilim = 140.0
 running border classification 4 times
 preserving editing changes in output volume...
 using 70% threshold
 mri_read(): couldn't determine type of file
 mri_segment: could not read source volume from .700
 -i: Command not found


 2013/5/17 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:
 Hi Caspar

 can you include the command line and all the output?


 Bruce
 On Fri, 17 May 2013, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:

 filling ventricles
 filling basal ganglia
 using white lolim = 104.0
 using gray hilim = 118.0
 using white hilim = 140.0
 running border classification 4 times
 preserving editing changes in output volume...
 using 70% threshold
 mri_read(): couldn't determine type of file /.../.700
 mri_segment: could not read source volume from .700
 ../mri/brain.mgz: Permission denied

 if I add a -i to the input volume, it says flag not recognized.
 to get a floating point number into my tcsh script, I am using `echo
 7/10 | bc -l`

 according to this previous discussion on the mailing list, there
 should be a fix available somewhere:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg18824.html

 Thanks, Caspar

 2013/5/17 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:

 and what happens? Can you send the full screen output?

 On Fri, 17 May 2013, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:

 mri_segment \
 -v \
 -fillv \
 -fillbg \
 -wlo 104 \
 -ghi 118 \
 -whi 140 \
 -n 4 \
 -keep \
 brain.mgz wm.mgz

 The pial surface in the rest of the brain is ok, it is only the
 orbitofrontal/piriform cortex that is problematic. I now wanted to
 add
 -p 0.7.

 Caspar


 2013/5/17 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:


 what is your command line? You are probably better off setting
 gray_hi,
 gray_low, wm_hi, wm_low, etc...

 Bruce
 On Fri, 17 May 2013, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:

 When I try to specify a different threshold using -p, mri_segment
 reads in the threshold as the input volume.
 I tried specifying the input with -i (as explained here:



 http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg18826.
 html),
 but now it does not recognize the -i flag.
 Caspar


 2013/5/17 Matt Glasser m...@ma-tea.com:



 Hard to fix if that is the receive field and you don't have
 another
 image
 like a T2w to remove it with.  Perhaps mri_normalize can be tuned
 to
 improve this with expert options as the white matter that is being
 correctly segmented appears to be darker as well.

 Peace,

 Matt.

 On 5/17/13 9:30 AM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:

 Hi Caspar

 yes, that might help. There are expert opts for this. Sorry, I
 have
 almost no experience analyzing monkey brains at .5mm, so I'm
 really
 not
 sure what to advise you. Perhaps one of the other people on list
 who
 have
 done a bunch can comment?
 Bruce
 On Fri, 17 May 2013, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:

 Hi Bruce,
 I tried adding control points in the white matter in that
 region,
 however, it does not seem to fix the issue. Also, the
 brainmask.mgz
 does not seem to exclude this part of the brain, so that is not
 the
 problem either.
 I am attaching another screenshot (horizontal 119) to illustrate
 the
 problem.
 White matter pixel values range from the high 80ies to 100 in
 this
 area.
 Included grey matter pixel values are in the low 80ies.
 Excluded grey matter pixel values range from the low 60ies to
 low
 70ies.

 Would it make sense to re-run mri_segment 

[Freesurfer] Overlay thickness for BA areas

2013-05-21 Thread _andreia_
Hello list!

Is there a way to display the thickness of individual Bordmann areas  
in the inflated surface using tksurfer?


I'm able to show surface area with File- Label - Load label and  
choosing the thresholded label. Now, I qould like to do the same but  
with cortical thickness, is this possible?

I'm using FS 5.0.

Thank you in advance,
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Re: [Freesurfer] Overlay thickness for BA areas

2013-05-21 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Andreia, do you mean that you want to display a constant value in 
each BA on the surface? We don't haveanything explicit to do that, but 
you could do it in matlab. Let me know if you need more info.
doug


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 Hello list!

 Is there a way to display the thickness of individual Bordmann areas
 in the inflated surface using tksurfer?


 I'm able to show surface area with File- Label - Load label and
 choosing the thresholded label. Now, I qould like to do the same but
 with cortical thickness, is this possible?

 I'm using FS 5.0.

 Thank you in advance,
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[Freesurfer] usage of mri_segstats

2013-05-21 Thread Fang CAO
Hello list!

Can I use the command mri_segstats to calculate the statistics across
multiple subjects? If yes, how to do it? Thank you in advance,

Fang
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Re: [Freesurfer] Overlay thickness for BA areas

2013-05-21 Thread _andreia_
Hi Doug,

I would like to have the thickness map restricted to the BAs where the  
group differences showed up. Could it be possible to overlay the  
thickness map of an individual and then restrict it to the chosen BA,  
for example?

The ideia is to have two subjects with the thickness overlayed for  
display purposes.

If there would be a way to do this by groups it would also be nice!

Thank you!
Andreia



Quoting Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:

 Hi Andreia, do you mean that you want to display a constant value in
 each BA on the surface? We don't haveanything explicit to do that, but
 you could do it in matlab. Let me know if you need more info.
 doug


 On 05/21/2013 11:46 AM, _andre...@sapo.pt wrote:
 Hello list!

 Is there a way to display the thickness of individual Bordmann areas
 in the inflated surface using tksurfer?


 I'm able to show surface area with File- Label - Load label and
 choosing the thresholded label. Now, I qould like to do the same but
 with cortical thickness, is this possible?

 I'm using FS 5.0.

 Thank you in advance,
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[Freesurfer] recon-all errors: v5.0.0

2013-05-21 Thread Sudhin A. Shah
1) BEST FITNESS (M) is 984.24263
 mri =0.000   curv = 4.318 unmri = -1001.515
 ( f=0.00 , v=0.00 , c=4.32 , q= 8.64  )
 ( f=0.00 , v=0.00 , c=4.32 , q= 8.64 )
  63 patches have been generated - 38 self-intersected
  max face = 36973(40653) - loop = 46 (73)  - ntries = [27,14799]

ERROR: _FindFacePath: could not find path!
Linux sudhin-Precision-WorkStation-690 2.6.35-32-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 
5 19:39:49 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

recon-all -s xtyzW exited with ERRORS at Tue May 21 05:48:38 EDT 2013

===
2)*WATERSHED**
Sorting...
mri_watershed Error:
Problem in the COG calculation:
T1.mgz may not contain properly normalized white-matter.
Confirm that T1.mgz has enough white-matter voxels of value 110.
If white-matter contains few if any voxels of value 110,
try adding wm control-points to nu.mgz, and re-run recon-all.

Linux sudhin-Precision-WorkStation-690 2.6.35-32-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 
5 19:39:49 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

recon-all -s cbvfB exited with ERRORS at Fri May 17 17:45:23 EDT 2013
==
3)CORRECTING DEFECT 2 (vertices=30163, convex hull=6211)
error in the retessellation
normal vector of length zero at vertex 88778 with 0 faces
vertex 88778 has 0 face
No such file or directory
Linux sudhin-Precision-WorkStation-690 2.6.35-32-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 
5 19:39:49 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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Re: [Freesurfer] usage of mri_segstats

2013-05-21 Thread Louis Nicholas Vinke
Hi Fang,
mri_segstats can only be run on individual subjects, but you could easily 
write a script to run it on all your subjects, then use asegstats2table to 
merge all the individual subject stats into a spreadsheet ready table.
-Louis

On Tue, 21 May 2013, Fang CAO wrote:

 Hello list!
 
 Can I use the command mri_segstats to calculate the statistics across 
 multiple subjects? If yes, how to do it? Thank you in
 advance,
 
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[Freesurfer] mri_glmfit application in the two-stage longitudinal approach

2013-05-21 Thread Qi Wu
Hi Martin,

Now I move onto the mri_glmfit step (still within the two stage method).
The on-line tutorial for doing this is not very clear.

The output of the first stage is stored in the subject-template (base),
already in fsaverage space. Simply replace the thickness file with your
long.thickness-pc1fit (etc) and run your analysis. 

For the normal group analysis, one mgh file (the stacked image for all
subject for each hemisphere) is created under the SUBJECT folder after the
mri_prepro, and the mri_surf2surf steps. However, I assume that after the
long_mris_slopes command, the mgh file
(lh.long.thickness-spc.fwhm5.fsaverage.mgh, etc.) saved within each
subject's base/surf folder is just for that subject. Right?

My question is: what is the right way to process these subject specific mgh
files within mri_glmfit? How to design the FSGD file for this particular
glmfit?

I appreciate your clarification on this issue, and I do believe that it
would be very helpful if you could add your clarification onto the online
tutorial for the two stage method (
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/LongitudinalTwoStageModel)

Many thanks

Keith

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Martin Reuter
mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

  Hi Keith,

 your longitudinal qdec file looks OK. Something must have gone wrong
 before (in the processing, e.g. maybe the base was reprocessed and the
 longs were not updated or things were renamed?)

 I would create a new directory with only this subject, then start from
 scratch. create both cross (kp5 and kp5b), the base (kp5_base) and both
 longs with the correct naming . Then check if the long_mris_slopes command
 still fails.

 Best, Martin


 On 05/01/2013 12:11 PM, Qi Wu wrote:

 Dear Freesurfer experts,

 I have a dataset of 2 time points. I ran into problems when I tried to use
 the two-stage approach to pull out statistics such as the rate of change in
 Freesurfer 5.1.

 I could not even get the first stage working. The error messages I got
 were “ERROR: MRISar1: Surf/Src dimension mismatch” “ERROR -11 : mri_glmfit
 did not work?”

 I did further trouble-shooting for this particular message nv1 = 140942,
 nv1 = 143525, and I found out that 143525 was in the base folder
 (kp5_base), and 140942 was for the two longitudinally registered images
 (kp5.long.kp5_base, and kp5b.long.kp5_base).

 The command line I used was : “long_mris_slopes --qdec
 ./qdec/AS_long_qdec.dat --meas thickness --hemi lh --do-avg --do-rate
 --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label --time weeks –nosmooth”.

 The first three lines in the qdec file:

 “fsid fsid-base weeks age sex FSS avgPain

 kp5 kp5_base 0 48 0 4.1 7

 kp5b kp5_base 20 48 0 8.6 6”

 This error was similar to what was in a previous post (
 https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail/freesurfer/2012-June/024576.htmlby 
 joost janssen Jun 29, 2012). I tried to fix any similar problems, but
 still wasn’t able to get it working.

 What else could I have been doing wrong?

 The on screen error output is provided as follows

 Many thanks

 Keith

 Postdoctoral fellow
 Toronto Western Hospital
 Toronto, Ontario
 Canada

 ***

 Parsing the qdec table: ./qdec/AS_long_qdec.dat

 Working in SUBJECTS_DIR:
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old

 Subject-Template: kp5_base

 INFO: 2 TPs in kp5_base , mean age: 10.0

 ===


 SUBJECT kp5_base Intersecting Within-Subject Cortex Label

 cp
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5.long.kp5_base/label/lh.cortex.label
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/label/lh.long.cortex.label


 mris_label_calc intersect
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5b.long.kp5_base/label/lh.cortex.label
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/label/lh.long.cortex.label
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/label/lh.long.cortex.label


 LabelWrite: saving to
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/label/lh.long.cortex.label

 ===


 SUBJECT kp5_base Stackinbg Within-Subject Maps

 mri_concat
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5.long.kp5_base/surf/lh.thickness
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5b.long.kp5_base/surf/lh.thickness
 --o
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/surf/lh.long.thickness-stack.mgh

 ninputs = 2

 Checking inputs

 nframestot = 2

 Allocing output

 Done allocing

 nframes = 2

 Writing to
 /data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/surf/lh.long.thickness-stack.mgh

 ===


 SUBJECT kp5_base Running Within-Subject GLM

 Writing ./tmp-kp5_base_lh_thickness_6PR2rH/X-long.mat ...

 

Re: [Freesurfer] v5.2.0 preproc-sess failing on 3dvolreg.afni

2013-05-21 Thread Joseph Dien
Perhaps the problem has already been solved but I just ran into the same issue 
(on OS X 10.8.2).  After poking around, what I found was that while the current 
AFNI distribution does not have a file named 3dvolreg.afni, it does have one 
named 3dvolreg.  I'm guessing the problem is that it has been renamed.  I fixed 
the problem by creating a link:

ln 3dvolreg 3dvolreg.afni

I suppose FSFAST needs to be updated to take this new name into account.

Cheers!

Joe

 Hi Doug,
 
 Here's the output from cat /proc/version:
 Linux version 2.6.32-45-generic (buildd@batsu) (gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu
 4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1) ) #101-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 3 15:39:38 UTC 2012
 
 This is the result of cat $FREESURFER_HOME/build-stamp.txt
 
 freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.2.0
 
 Thanks.
 
 -Yuhong
 
 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:
 
  which version of CentOS? Also, can you send me the result of
  cat $FREESURFER_HOME/build-stamp.**txt
 
 
 
  On 03/21/2013 02:09 PM, Y.V. Jiang wrote:
 
  Hi Doug,
 
  I am using Linux: x86_64 GNU/Linux. Thanks.
 
  -Yuhong
 
  On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Douglas N Greve 
  gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edugr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  wrote:
 
  what platform are you using?
 
 
  On 03/21/2013 01:24 PM, Y.V. Jiang wrote:
 
  Hi Doug,
 
  Thanks for the reply. From the command line the command
  3dvolreg.afni returned the following error:
 
  3dvolreg.afni: symbol lookup error: 3dvolreg.afni: undefined
  symbol: afni_ncerr
 
  -Yuhong
 
  On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Douglas N Greve
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  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  wrote:
 
 
  Hi Yuhong,
  What happens when you run 3dvolreg.afni from the command
  line without
  any args?
  doug
 
  On 03/21/2013 12:38 PM, Y.V. Jiang wrote:
   Hi Doug,
  
   I was running preproc-sess in the newly released
  freesurfer-5.2.0. The
   command I used was:
  
   preproc-sess -sf sessid -df sessdir -fsd bold -surface
  fsaverage lhr
   -mni305 -fwhm 6 -per-run
  
   The program failed with the following errors:
  
   3dvolreg.afni -verbose -dfile 004/fmcpr.mcdat -1Dmatrix_save
   004/fmcpr.mat -base
  004/tmp.mc-afni2.29239/**tempvol.nii.gz -prefix
   004/tmp.mc-afni2.29239/outvol.**nii.gz
  004/tmp.mc-afni2.29239/invol.**nii.gz
   3dvolreg.afni: symbol lookup error: 3dvolreg.afni:
  undefined symbol:
   afni_ncerr
   ERROR: 3dvolreg.afni
   Invalid null command.
  
   I have the file 3dvolreg.afni in $FREESURFER_HOME/bin.
  There is
   another file of the same name under afni/bin.
  Preproc-sess is
  relying
   on the version in $FREESURFER_HOME/bin.
  
   Do you know what the problem is? Should I replace
  freesurfer's
  copy of
   3dvolreg.afni with AFNI's copy of 3dvolreg.afni?
  
   Thanks.
  
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_glmfit application in the two-stage longitudinal approach

2013-05-21 Thread Martin Reuter

Hi Keith,

you are right, the lh.long.thickness-spc.fwhm5.fsaverage.mgh in each 
base folder is only for that subject. You process this the same way as 
you'd usually do thickness in a cross sectional analysis. Except you can 
skip the mris_prepoc step (as everyting is mapped to fsaverage and 
presmoothed already, when using the qcache flag to long_mris_slopes).

You have several options
- simply use mri_concat to stack those files to create the stack
- or (probably easier) tell long_mris_slopes to do the job for you with 
the --stack-rate or --stack-spc etc. options


Then you have a stack on fsaverage with the right smoothing level(s). 
the FSGD file is also as usual, make sure the order of your subjects 
agrees with the order in the long.qdec table used for the stacking.


Added that to the wiki , thanks.

Best, Martin

On 05/21/2013 02:36 PM, Qi Wu wrote:


Hi Martin,

Now I move onto the mri_glmfit step (still within the two stage 
method). The on-line tutorial for doing this is not very clear.


The output of the first stage is stored in the subject-template 
(base), already in fsaverage space. Simply replace the thickness file 
with your long.thickness-pc1fit (etc) and run your analysis. 


For the normal group analysis, one mgh file (the stacked image for all 
subject for each hemisphere) is created under the SUBJECT folder after 
the mri_prepro, and the mri_surf2surf steps. However, I assume that 
after the long_mris_slopes command, the mgh file 
(lh.long.thickness-spc.fwhm5.fsaverage.mgh, etc.) saved within each 
subject's base/surf folder is just for that subject. Right?
My question is: what is the right way to process these subject 
specific mgh files within mri_glmfit? How to design the FSGD file for 
this particular glmfit?


I appreciate your clarification on this issue, and I do believe that 
it would be very helpful if you could add your clarification onto the 
online tutorial for the two stage method 
(http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/LongitudinalTwoStageModel)


Many thanks

Keith

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Martin Reuter 
mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


Hi Keith,

your longitudinal qdec file looks OK. Something must have gone
wrong before (in the processing, e.g. maybe the base was
reprocessed and the longs were not updated or things were renamed?)

I would create a new directory with only this subject, then start
from scratch. create both cross (kp5 and kp5b), the base
(kp5_base) and both longs with the correct naming . Then check if
the long_mris_slopes command still fails.

Best, Martin


On 05/01/2013 12:11 PM, Qi Wu wrote:

Dear Freesurfer experts,

I have a dataset of 2 time points. I ran into problems when I
tried to use the two-stage approach to pull out statistics such
as the rate of change in Freesurfer 5.1.

I could not even get the first stage working. The error messages
I got were “ERROR: MRISar1: Surf/Src dimension mismatch” “ERROR
-11 : mri_glmfit did not work?”

I did further trouble-shooting for this particular message nv1 =
140942, nv1 = 143525, and I found out that 143525 was in the
base folder (kp5_base), and 140942 was for the two
longitudinally registered images (kp5.long.kp5_base, and
kp5b.long.kp5_base).

The command line I used was : “long_mris_slopes --qdec
./qdec/AS_long_qdec.dat --meas thickness --hemi lh --do-avg
--do-rate --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label --time weeks
–nosmooth”.

The first three lines in the qdec file:

“fsid fsid-base weeks age sex FSS avgPain

kp5 kp5_base 0 48 0 4.1 7

kp5b kp5_base 20 48 0 8.6 6”

This error was similar to what was in a previous post
(https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail/freesurfer/2012-June/024576.html
by joost janssen Jun 29, 2012). I tried to fix any similar
problems, but still wasn’t able to get it working.

What else could I have been doing wrong?

The on screen error output is provided as follows

Many thanks

Keith

Postdoctoral fellow
Toronto Western Hospital
Toronto, Ontario
Canada

***

Parsing the qdec table: ./qdec/AS_long_qdec.dat

Working in SUBJECTS_DIR:
/data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old

Subject-Template: kp5_base

INFO: 2 TPs in kp5_base , mean age: 10.0


===


SUBJECT kp5_base Intersecting Within-Subject Cortex Label

cp

/data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5.long.kp5_base/label/lh.cortex.label

/data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5_base/label/lh.long.cortex.label


mris_label_calc intersect

/data/keith/freesurferdata/subjects_longitudinal_5.1_old/kp5b.long.kp5_base/label/lh.cortex.label


[Freesurfer] FreeSurfer v5.3.0

2013-05-21 Thread Kristina Nalbandian
Hello

   I am interested in downloading the FreeSurfer v5.3.0. I will be running
it on a virtual machine platform in Windows (xubuntu). Are there any
specific instructions for this on the FreeSurfer website because I noticed
it runs on CentOS 6 x86_64 (64b). Or does the download come with the
virtual machine?

Thank you for your help,
Kristina
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Re: [Freesurfer] FreeSurfer v5.3.0

2013-05-21 Thread Nick Schmansky
Kristina,

We havent created a Windows Virtual Machine freesurfer bundle yet, but
if you already have, or know how to create, an xubuntu vm instance on
windows, then all you have to do is download and install the centos
distribution from within that xubunbtu instance.  if your xubuntu is 32,
then you'll want to the centos 4 distribution, not the one with x86_64
in the name.

Nick


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I am interested in downloading the FreeSurfer v5.3.0. I will be
 running it on a virtual machine platform in Windows (xubuntu). Are
 there any specific instructions for this on the FreeSurfer website
 because I noticed it runs on CentOS 6 x86_64 (64b). Or does the
 download come with the virtual machine? 
 
 Thank you for your help, 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Overlay thickness for BA areas

2013-05-21 Thread Douglas N Greve

You can create a binary mask from the labels (see mri_label2label with 
the --outmask option), then run mri_glmfit with the --mask option to 
only analyze data inside the mask.
doug


On 05/21/2013 12:19 PM, _andre...@sapo.pt wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 I would like to have the thickness map restricted to the BAs where the 
 group differences showed up. Could it be possible to overlay the 
 thickness map of an individual and then restrict it to the chosen BA, 
 for example?

 The ideia is to have two subjects with the thickness overlayed for 
 display purposes.

 If there would be a way to do this by groups it would also be nice!

 Thank you!
 Andreia



 Quoting Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:

 Hi Andreia, do you mean that you want to display a constant value in
 each BA on the surface? We don't haveanything explicit to do that, but
 you could do it in matlab. Let me know if you need more info.
 doug


 On 05/21/2013 11:46 AM, _andre...@sapo.pt wrote:
 Hello list!

 Is there a way to display the thickness of individual Bordmann areas
 in the inflated surface using tksurfer?


 I'm able to show surface area with File- Label - Load label and
 choosing the thresholded label. Now, I qould like to do the same but
 with cortical thickness, is this possible?

 I'm using FS 5.0.

 Thank you in advance,
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[Freesurfer] question abt dt-recon

2013-05-21 Thread Ritobrato Datta
Hello All,

I havent used dt-recon yet but I have a question abt it. 

When the dt-recon computes the FA maps, whats the dimensions of these FA maps ? 
Are they resampled to the freesurfer anatomical voxel size (1x1x1) or are they 
in their native voxel size (in which they were collected) ?
If I want to extract say the meanFA from one of the ROIs that freesurfer dumps 
in aseg/wmparc, can I do that ?

Thanks

Ri
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Re: [Freesurfer] question abt dt-recon

2013-05-21 Thread Douglas N Greve
The native DTI space.
doug

On 05/21/2013 04:41 PM, Ritobrato Datta wrote:
 Hello All,

 I havent used dt-recon yet but I have a question abt it.

 When the dt-recon computes the FA maps, whats the dimensions of these FA maps 
 ? Are they resampled to the freesurfer anatomical voxel size (1x1x1) or are 
 they in their native voxel size (in which they were collected) ?
 If I want to extract say the meanFA from one of the ROIs that freesurfer 
 dumps in aseg/wmparc, can I do that ?

 Thanks

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Re: [Freesurfer] v5.2.0 preproc-sess failing on 3dvolreg.afni

2013-05-21 Thread Douglas N Greve
It should be in $FREESURFER_HOME/bin/3dvolreg.afni



On 05/21/2013 02:49 PM, Joseph Dien wrote:
 Perhaps the problem has already been solved but I just ran into the 
 same issue (on OS X 10.8.2).  After poking around, what I found was 
 that while the current AFNI distribution does not have a file 
 named 3dvolreg.afni, it does have one named 3dvolreg.  I'm guessing 
 the problem is that it has been renamed.  I fixed the problem by 
 creating a link:

 ln 3dvolreg 3dvolreg.afni

 I suppose FSFAST needs to be updated to take this new name into account.

 Cheers!

 Joe

 Hi Doug,

 Here's the output from cat /proc/version:
 Linux version 2.6.32-45-generic (buildd@batsu) (gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu
 4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1) ) #101-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 3 15:39:38 UTC 2012

 This is the result of cat $FREESURFER_HOME/build-stamp.txt

 freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.2.0

 Thanks.

 -Yuhong

 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu  http://nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

  which version of CentOS? Also, can you send me the result of
  cat $FREESURFER_HOME/build-stamp.**txt
 
 
 
  On 03/21/2013 02:09 PM, Y.V. Jiang wrote:
 
  Hi Doug,
 
  I am using Linux: x86_64 GNU/Linux. Thanks.
 
  -Yuhong
 
  On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Douglas N Greve 
  gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu  http://nmr.mgh.harvard.edu  
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edugr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu  
  http://nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  wrote:
 
  what platform are you using?
 
 
  On 03/21/2013 01:24 PM, Y.V. Jiang wrote:
 
  Hi Doug,
 
  Thanks for the reply. From the command line the command
  3dvolreg.afni returned the following error:
 
  3dvolreg.afni: symbol lookup error: 3dvolreg.afni: undefined
  symbol: afni_ncerr
 
  -Yuhong
 
  On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Douglas N Greve
  gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu  http://nmr.mgh.harvard.edu  
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edugr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu  
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  wrote:
 
 
  Hi Yuhong,
  What happens when you run 3dvolreg.afni from the command
  line without
  any args?
  doug
 
  On 03/21/2013 12:38 PM, Y.V. Jiang wrote:
   Hi Doug,
  
   I was running preproc-sess in the newly released
  freesurfer-5.2.0. The
   command I used was:
  
   preproc-sess -sf sessid -df sessdir -fsd bold -surface
  fsaverage lhr
   -mni305 -fwhm 6 -per-run
  
   The program failed with the following errors:
  
   3dvolreg.afni -verbose -dfile 004/fmcpr.mcdat -1Dmatrix_save
   004/fmcpr.mat -base
  004/tmp.mc-afni2.29239/**tempvol.nii.gz -prefix
   004/tmp.mc-afni2.29239/outvol.**nii.gz
  004/tmp.mc-afni2.29239/invol.**nii.gz
   3dvolreg.afni: symbol lookup error: 3dvolreg.afni:
  undefined symbol:
   afni_ncerr
   ERROR: 3dvolreg.afni
   Invalid null command.
  
   I have the file 3dvolreg.afni in $FREESURFER_HOME/bin.
  There is
   another file of the same name under afni/bin.
  Preproc-sess is
  relying
   on the version in $FREESURFER_HOME/bin.
  
   Do you know what the problem is? Should I replace
  freesurfer's
  copy of
   3dvolreg.afni with AFNI's copy of 3dvolreg.afni?
  
   Thanks.
  
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Re: [Freesurfer] tracula error

2013-05-21 Thread Anastasia Yendiki

Hi Skyler - When you say it's been working fine, have you checked that the 
orientations are correct by viewing dtifit_V1.nii.gz and dtifit_FA.nii.gz, 
like in the snapshot that I sent you? If those orientations aren't 
correct, the gradient table isn't correct either.

a.y

On Tue, 21 May 2013, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:

 Hi Anastasia,

 Thank you for all of your help! 'trac-all' has been working fine with 
 the other subjects, so it doesn't appear to be the gradient vector file. 
 Yes, unfortunately the resolution is not the best.

 Would you consider this subject a loss or are there other fixes you suggest?

 Thanks again!
 Skyler


 - Original Message -
 From: Anastasia Yendiki ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: sholl...@uwm.edu
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:40:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tracula error


 Hi Skyler - A couple of things. I'm attaching a screenshot of the FA map
 and primary tensor eigenvectors of your subject. First, it looks like your
 gradient directions are incorrect, given how the eigenvectors are oriented
 in the corpus callosum (yellow arrows in the coronal and axial slice). The
 eigenvectors follow the shape of the corpus callosum in the axial view but
 not in the coronal view. My guess is your gradient vectors need to be
 flipped in the z-direction.

 Second, your resolution is 4mm. There's going to be a lot of partial
 voluming. You'll have to give up on the thinner tracts, like ccg/cab (see
 purple arrow in sagittal view pointing to cingulum, you can barely resolve
 it from the corpus callosum).

 Third, you have 14 gradient directions, so fitting the ball-and-stick
 model to this data, which is done by bedpostx and which you need for the
 tract reconstruction step, is going to be challening.

 I don't want to discourage you, but tractography may be a bit more than
 this data can support.

 Please let me know if you have more questions,
 a.y

 On Mon, 20 May 2013, sholl...@uwm.edu wrote:

 Hi Anastasia,

 They were uploaded. Thanks for your help!

 Skyler

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 20, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Anastasia Yendiki 
 ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 Hi Skyler - If you upload the dmri/dmri.bedpostX/dlabel/scripts directories 
 of your subject for me, I'll take a look.

 http://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2/

 a.y

 On Fri, 17 May 2013, sholl...@uwm.edu wrote:

 Hi Anastasia,

 The brain mask looks fine. Any other suggestions?

 Thanks for your help,
 Skyler
 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 17, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Anastasia Yendiki 
 ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 Hi Skyler - How does the brain mask look like? Any major chunks of brain 
 missing in the area of the left uncinate? That's the tract where the 
 error occurs, and based on this info in the log file, I'm guessing it's a 
 masking issue:

 [...]
 INFO: Rejected 4221 streamlines for straying off mask
 INFO: Rejected 2 streamlines for reversing direction
 INFO: Rejected 9 streamlines as length outliers
 INFO: Have 56 total streamlines (min/mean/max length: 1/13/33)
 [...]

 Hope this helps,
 a.y

 On Wed, 15 May 2013, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:

 Hi all,

 We ran tracula prep stage and it exited with errors: 'Selected 
 streamline has fewer than 5 points'. We have attached the log and error 
 files if needed.

 Thank you in advance!
 Skyler


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Re: [Freesurfer] FreeSurfer v5.3.0

2013-05-21 Thread Marcos Martins da Silva
Kristina,
I do not know what virtual machine manager you intend to use. If you
will use Oracle's VirtualBox I would like to share my recent experience
with you. I tried a updated CentOS6 virtual machine with Freesurfer 5.2
running under Fedora 18 as host but I had problems during recon-all
tests. I also downloaded an old Xubuntu virtual machine file with
Freesurfer 5.1 from Freesurfer ftp site and no luck again. I decided to
buy a second hard disk and installed CentOS6 in this disk making a dual
boot system (Fedora 18 and CentOS6). Freesurfer runs over CentOS6 with
no problem in my machine. So I guess the problem was with VirtualBox.
With Freesurfer 5.3 release it runs over Fedora 18 too. So if you find
problems with your virtual machine best chances are the VM manager is
the culprit. If possible I guess running Freesurfer over CentOS6 in a
real machine would be better.
Marcos 
Em Ter, 2013-05-21 às 12:28 -0700, Kristina Nalbandian escreveu:
 Hello 
 
 
 
I am interested in downloading the FreeSurfer v5.3.0. I will be
 running it on a virtual machine platform in Windows (xubuntu). Are
 there any specific instructions for this on the FreeSurfer website
 because I noticed it runs on CentOS 6 x86_64 (64b). Or does the
 download come with the virtual machine? 
 
 Thank you for your help, 
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