Re: [Freesurfer] Making a surface from the skull?

2010-10-04 Thread Mark J. Pearrow
Thanks for these suggestions - looks promising so far!

mjp

On Oct 1, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Nick Schmansky wrote:

> also, once you get a surface file, then mris_convert will convert
> to .stl format, which we've used in 3d printer applications.
> 
> if you can get a skull from mri_watershed, then mri_tessellate will make
> a surface. mris_smooth and mris_keep_main_component are two other useful
> utility to clean things up.
> 
> n.
> 
> On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 16:24 -0400, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> you might check Matti Hamalainen's MNE website. He uses the watershed code 
>> to generate boundary models, including skull. Or just try out mri_watershed 
>> with -surf I think (it's covered in the help, at least a bit)
>> 
>> cheers
>> Bruce
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Mark J. Pearrow wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I know this is slightly outside the normal bounds, but I am wondering if 
>>> there is a way to create a surface from the skull? One of our folks is 
>>> looking to create some custom-fitted recording chambers for nonhuman 
>>> primates based on the individual skull. I seem to recall that FS has a way 
>>> of generating STL files, which would be perfect for submitting to a rapid 
>>> prototyping machine. Here's what the user says:
>>> 
>>> " In brief, I would like to shape the bottom-side of my recording chambers 
>>> (elliptical/circular cylinder) so that they form-fit to the curvature of 
>>> the primate skull. Ideally, this will involve segmenting and extracting a 
>>> 3D portion of the skull and converting it into an STL file to use for 
>>> machining the implant."
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> mjp
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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[Freesurfer] Making a surface from the skull?

2010-10-01 Thread Mark J. Pearrow
Hi all,

I know this is slightly outside the normal bounds, but I am wondering if there 
is a way to create a surface from the skull? One of our folks is looking to 
create some custom-fitted recording chambers for nonhuman primates based on the 
individual skull. I seem to recall that FS has a way of generating STL files, 
which would be perfect for submitting to a rapid prototyping machine. Here's 
what the user says:

" In brief, I would like to shape the bottom-side of my recording chambers 
(elliptical/circular cylinder) so that they form-fit to the curvature of the 
primate skull. Ideally, this will involve segmenting and extracting a 3D 
portion of the skull and converting it into an STL file to use for machining 
the implant."

Best,

mjp




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[Freesurfer] segfault from freeview.bin

2009-11-23 Thread Mark J. Pearrow
Hi all,

We are consistently getting segfaults with core dumped from freeview.bin when 
trying to open MGZ files that are larger than some (undetermined) threshold. 

We are running the 4.5.0 CentOS 4 x86_64 binary package on Ubuntu 9.04 
Workstation. Upon opening freeview and attempting to load one of the larger 
files, the application crashes and dumps core, and leaves the following in the 
error.log:

CTABreadASCII(/u2/meeshy/Desktop/Amy Activation 
Screenshots/SAD_022/lh_Novelobjects_social/EFvNF.png): badly formed file
mghRead: encountered error executing: 'zcat 
/u2/meeshy/Desktop/I29/flash20_100um_avg_rotatedKH2009_mfg_new.mgz',frame 
-1, errno 12
mghRead: encountered error executing: 'zcat 
/u2/meeshy/Desktop/I29/flash20_100um_avg_rotatedKH2009_mfg_new.mgz',frame 
-1, errno 12

(running that same zcat command from the command line works fine)

Loading the resulting core into gdb:

mee...@ba7:~$ gdb `which freeview.bin` ./core
[mumble mumble reading symbols]
...
Core was generated by `freeview.bin'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
[New process 2415]
#0  0x7f1c91defcd0 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
(gdb) list
1   /usr/pubsw/packages/vtk/5.2.0/src/Utilities/DICOMParser/DICOMFile.cxx: 
No such file or directory.
in /usr/pubsw/packages/vtk/5.2.0/src/Utilities/DICOMParser/DICOMFile.cxx
(gdb) bt
#0  0x7f1c91defcd0 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
#1  0x7f1c91de430f in _fini () from /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
#2  0x7f1c9257f354 in ?? () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
#3  0x7f1c89f2d6ed in exit () from /lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x7f1c89f155ad in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x005b89ea in _start ()


These are around 250MB in size. Smaller files load just fine.

mjp
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Re: [Freesurfer] qdec error

2008-11-26 Thread Mark J. Pearrow
It's possible that you are running a Debian-based distro and just  
don't have libtiff.so.3; but you probably have libtiff.so.4, so you  
can create a symlink so that libtiff.so.3 points to libtiff.so.4.


I have to do this In Debian "etch" and later

 mjp


On Nov 26, 2008, at 4:26 PM, "Siddharth Srivastava" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Hi Prapti,
I think you have to modify the $LD_LIBRARY_PATH shell variable.
first find where libtiff.so.3 is. Usually "locate libtiff.so.3" will  
tell you
where the file is at. On my machine, it is in /usr/lib/ and /usr/ 
lib64/

then
LD_LIBRARY_PATH = $LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/lib64/
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
qdec

This should work.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Prapti Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:

Hi,

I've run across the following error while trying to run qdec in my  
linux 64 bit computer,


qdec.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libtiff.so.3: cannot  
open shared object file: No such file or directory


Is there any specific file that I need to download or change  
configuration of?


I apologise if this has been covered before in the mailing list, Any  
help is greatly appreciated,


Thanks,

Prapti



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Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer display problems

2008-11-19 Thread Mark J. Pearrow

hi Sid,

This should be done on the server side - where you are processing the  
data.


For example, I have a Dell PowerEdge 1950 that is running 64-bit  
Debian Gnu/Linux and has Freesurfer/fsfast installed. I log into it  
from my Mac, which is running os x. So I needed to add those libraries  
to the Dell machine to make things work.


My systems are 64 bit, so I think the instructions I gave should work  
for you, too.


mjp



On Nov 19, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Siddharth Srivastava wrote:


Hi mjp,
   Thanks for an account of a working solution to the  
problem. I just wanted to
know if this intervention has to done on the client machine (from  
where i am
viewing the results), or on the server side (on which i am  
processing the data)? Further,
in case of a 64 bit machine, would the source and the destination  
directories change

accordingly?
best regards,
sid.



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Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer display problems

2008-11-19 Thread Mark J. Pearrow

Hi all,

This is a bug that has baffled me for almost a year now, so today I  
decided to just attend to it exclusively. I have never understood why,  
exactly, the anecdotal and illogical fix for the sliver-of-the-brain  
issue seems to be to install an NVidia graphics card in the afflicted  
server.


I found this posting:
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2008-April/007558.html

Which seemed to indicate that it was not the card itself that made the  
difference, but rather some software component that made things work.  
There is an extension to X11, called GLX, which allows the remote side  
(the "client", in X11 speak) to bypass the processing of OpenGL  
commands and to send them to the server.


So, following the advice in the posting above, I downloaded the latest  
NVidia.run package and unpacked it by using the "-x" flag - then I  
copied all of the usr/lib/ and usr/lib32/ difrectories in the (freshly  
unpacked) NVIDIA-linux directory into /usr/lib and /usr/lib32,  
respectively. Then I ran "ldconfig -v" to update the ld cache.


And voila, I can run tksurfer over X11, VNC and NX now on a server  
that has no NVidia card, without any problems.


I still don't understand what exactly is being provided by NVidia's  
version of the libraries, but I suspect it has to do with "TLS" (in  
the context of OpenGL, not in the crypto sense). This appeared in the  
output of `ldd tksurfer.bin` on my systems with nvidia cards, and on  
my previously-broken system after I installed those files:


libnvidia-tls.so.1 => /usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1

mjp





On Nov 18, 2008, at 9:35 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:


Hi Sid,

this is a known problem. It actually used to work and we broke it.  
The current workaround is to use VNC.


cheers,
Bruce


On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Siddharth Srivastava wrote:


Hi !
   I am a relatively new user of freesurfer, and currently i have 2
instances
of the same -stable 64bit Linux versions installed, one on my local  
machine,

and the
other on a cluster, accessible over the network. I have been able  
to get

freesurfer
running without any problems on my local machine, but after i  
installed the
same version on the remote machine, the tksurfer window did not  
display
what i expectd to see, but only a small part of the data (%tksurfer  
bert lh

inflated).
This small patch responds to all commands from the GIU, but that is  
all

that i see.
   I have trawled through the archives, both old and new, and there  
have

been
references to similar problems, without any definitive way to solve  
it. What

exact
aspect of the system configuration has to be examined/re-worked to  
solve it?

Does anyone have any experience with this kind of problem?
   with regards,
   sid.


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Re: [Freesurfer] qdec.table.dat error

2008-10-08 Thread Mark J. Pearrow

Check out this article:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh

/bin/sh is still just a symlink to /bin/bash on Debian.

mjp


On Oct 8, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Mishkin Derakhshan wrote:


Hi Nick,
I tried unalias -a
and then runnig qdec but it didn't work either.

I think the problem is with bash vs. sh in ubuntu (possible all debian
systems). ie. /bin/sh is not the same as /bin/bash so not all bash
commands will work.

I did this:
sudo mv /bin/sh /bin/sh.bak
sudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh

and then it worked.
I'm hoping this doesn't have repercussion for my other programs  
though.


thanks,
mishkin







On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Nick Schmansky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

yes, this sounds like a tough one.  the VerifySubjects routine that
produces that error message just runs the 'ls' command on that  
subject
directory name, so that is why i asked.  if you run the 'ls'  
command on
'/lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/ms-mni/testing/tester', does it return a  
correct

response?  ie a non-zero status?

what does 'which ls' say? possibly it is aliased to something that is
causing a problem.

does qdec work despite the error?  the code is setup to just print  
the
error, but continue anyway.  if the subject doesnt exist, it will  
fail

downstream (during mri_glmfit).

i'll try to think of other things.

nick


On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 21:26 -0400, Mishkin Derakhshan wrote:

Hi Nick,
Yes I've checked most of the obvious things I could think of.
The directories all exist, permissions on all files are 775, i will
try 777 but don't suspect that will make a difference.
My env variables seem to be set properly as well.

opus[/lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/ms-mni/testing/tester]$ .
/lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/quarantine/SetUpFreeSurfer.sh
 freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v4.0.5 
Setting up environment for FreeSurfer/FS-FAST (and FSL)
FREESURFER_HOME   /lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/quarantine
FSFAST_HOME   /lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/quarantine/fsfast
FSF_OUTPUT_FORMAT nii
SUBJECTS_DIR  /lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/ms-mni/testing/
MNI_DIR   /lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/quarantine/mni

I get the same error when trying to load the tutorial  
qdec.table.dat as well.


My analysis is stuck at this point so any help is greatly  
appreciated.


thanks,
mishkin


On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Nick Schmansky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Mishkin,

Does this directory exist?

/lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/ms-mni/testing/tester

The error message you are seeing is checking for the existence of  
that

directory.

Nick


On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 14:30 -0400, Mishkin Derakhshan wrote:

Hi,
When I try to load a qdec.table.dat I always get the same error:

sh: Syntax error: Bad fd number
ERROR: QdecProject::VerifySubjects: Couldn't find subject  
'tester' in

SUBJECTS_DIR

I've tried digging around through the archives and still can't  
seem to

find a solution for this problem.
I've tried tcsh and the bash shell.
Here is a bit more information and my qdec.table.dat is  
attached. Any

ideas on how to get qdec up and running would be very useful.
thanks,
mishkin


FREESURFER_HOME: /lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/quarantine
Build stamp: freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v4.0.5
Debian version: lenny/sid
Kernel info: Linux 2.6.24-18-generic x86_64

opus:/lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/ms-mni/testing> qdec &
opus:/lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/ms-mni/testing>
Reading /lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/quarantine/lib/tcl/tkUtils.tcl

Using /lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/quarantine/lib/tcl/fsgdfPlot.tcl

Loading data table /lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/ms-mni/testing/qdec/ 
qdec.table.dat...

Setting SUBJECTS_DIR to '/lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/ms-mni/testing'
Number of columns:  4
fsid column:1
Number of factors:  3
Number of subjects: 2
Reading discrete factor levels from config file
/lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/ms-mni/testing/qdec/ 
gender.levels...'Male','Female',

done.

Data table /lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/ms-mni/testing/qdec/ 
qdec.table.dat loaded.

SUBJECTS_DIR is '/lab1/FreeSurfer/4.0.5/ms-mni/testing'
sh: Syntax error: Bad fd number
ERROR: QdecProject::VerifySubjects: Couldn't find subject  
'tester' in

SUBJECTS_DIR
sh: Syntax error: Bad fd number
ERROR: QdecProject::VerifySubjects: Couldn't find subject  
'tester2' in

SUBJECTS_DIR
Error loading the data table.
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Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer woes

2008-09-12 Thread Mark J. Pearrow

Hi all,

FYI, this same problem has been bugging me for several months. Most  
ATI chipsets have a nice driver installer bundle that, once installed,  
will let you run tksurfer without a problem. However, this particular  
chipset, the ES1000, which is the chipset on Dell PowerEdge servers,  
is unsupported and seems to have been abandoned by ATI/AMD/whoever  
they are this week.


If you happen to be unlucky enough to have Dell PowerEdge servers with  
this chipset and the need to run tksurfer, you're out of luck, until  
you put a slightly "better" graphics card in. I just managed to  
install an nVidia 8400GS (the x1 PCI-e version - the poweredge PCI-e  
bus is x8, which means it won't work with any of the most recent  
cards, but will work with slightly older x1 cards) and tksurfer works  
fine now. I can provide the gory details if you're in this boat.


mjp




On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:14 AM, Hoptman, Matthew wrote:


Hi all,
I’m having trouble using freesurfer’s tksurfer program (I only get a  
sliver of the brain).  Here is the error info I get:


[ghidra: subjects]$ tksurfer 77059 lh pial
surfer: current subjects dir: /home/freesurfer/subjects
surfer: not in "scripts" dir ==> using cwd for session root
surfer: session root data dir ($session) set to:
surfer: /home/freesurfer/subjects
surfer: Reading header info from /home/freesurfer/subjects/77059/mri/ 
T1.mgz

surfer: vertices=184362, faces=368720
Loading /home/freesurfer/surface_labels.txt
surfer: ### redraw failed: no gl window open
surfer: single buffered window
surfer: tkoInitWindow(77059)
surfer: using interface /home/freesurfer/lib/tcl/tksurfer.tcl
Reading /home/freesurfer/lib/tcl/tkm_common.tcl
Reading /home/freesurfer/lib/tcl/tkm_wrappers.tcl
Reading /home/freesurfer/lib/tcl/fsgdfPlot.tcl
Reading /home/freesurfer/lib/tcl/tkUtils.tcl
Successfully parsed tksurfer.tcl
reading white matter vertex locations...

The driver info (from /etc/X11/xorg.conf) is:
Section "Device"
  BoardName"ES1000 515E"
  BusID"14:13:0"
  Driver   "radeon"
  Identifier   "Device[0]"
  Option   "GARTSize" "32"
  Option   "usevnc" "yes"

Section "DRI"
Group  "video"
Mode   0660
EndSection


I’m have an onboard ATI ES1000 515E graphics chip.

Any ideas??
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Research Associate Professor in Psychiatry
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[Freesurfer] Segfault in mris_fwhm?

2008-09-11 Thread Mark J. Pearrow

Hi all,

I've run into a snag whilst running mris_fwhm:

$ mris_fwhm --i /all.nii --s  --hemi rh --sum / 
fwhm.sum

 rh white
Number of vertices 136129
Number of faces272254
Total area 88745.070312
GroupSurface 0
FIX_VERTEX_AREA 1
AvgVtxArea   0.651919
AvgVtxDist   0.883205
StdVtxDist   0.255280
Polynomial detrending, order = 0
Computing spatial AR1
ERROR: MRISar1: Surf/Src dimension mismatch.
Segmentation fault

All of the unpacking, reconstruction, and preprocessing up till that  
point have all been done using a pretty typical FS stream (with the  
exception of not smoothing in the volume) using FS 4.0.5.


The segfault happens with both the mris_fwhm binary that comes with FS  
4.0.5 and with the one I built from last night's CVS tree. I haven't  
run it under a debugger yet but was wondering if this has been seen  
before, etc.


mjp






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Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer woes

2008-09-08 Thread Mark J. Pearrow

Hi Matthew,

This is the typical symptom of either not having the right OpenGL  
libraries and/or not having a driver that supports the 3d stuff. That  
particular chip (ES1000) seems to be an orphan as far as Linux support  
goes - I haven't found a driver installation package on the ATI/AMD  
site that purports to support it. I'd be interested in hearing which  
linux distro you are using and which flavor radeon driver you're using.


Is this a Dell PowerEdge server? I have a bunch of them that I can't  
run tksurfer on for the same reason. So far I've been using a  
workstation that has an Nvidia card, which works properly with the  
NVidia proprietary driver installed.


mjp


On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:14 AM, Hoptman, Matthew wrote:


Hi all,
I’m having trouble using freesurfer’s tksurfer program (I only get a  
sliver of the brain).  Here is the error info I get:


[ghidra: subjects]$ tksurfer 77059 lh pial
surfer: current subjects dir: /home/freesurfer/subjects
surfer: not in "scripts" dir ==> using cwd for session root
surfer: session root data dir ($session) set to:
surfer: /home/freesurfer/subjects
surfer: Reading header info from /home/freesurfer/subjects/77059/mri/ 
T1.mgz

surfer: vertices=184362, faces=368720
Loading /home/freesurfer/surface_labels.txt
surfer: ### redraw failed: no gl window open
surfer: single buffered window
surfer: tkoInitWindow(77059)
surfer: using interface /home/freesurfer/lib/tcl/tksurfer.tcl
Reading /home/freesurfer/lib/tcl/tkm_common.tcl
Reading /home/freesurfer/lib/tcl/tkm_wrappers.tcl
Reading /home/freesurfer/lib/tcl/fsgdfPlot.tcl
Reading /home/freesurfer/lib/tcl/tkUtils.tcl
Successfully parsed tksurfer.tcl
reading white matter vertex locations...

The driver info (from /etc/X11/xorg.conf) is:
Section "Device"
  BoardName"ES1000 515E"
  BusID"14:13:0"
  Driver   "radeon"
  Identifier   "Device[0]"
  Option   "GARTSize" "32"
  Option   "usevnc" "yes"

Section "DRI"
Group  "video"
Mode   0660
EndSection


I’m have an onboard ATI ES1000 515E graphics chip.

Any ideas??
Matthew J. Hoptman, PhD
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Research Associate Professor in Psychiatry
NYU School of Medicine


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Re: [Freesurfer] error while loading shared libraries:libtiff.so.3

2008-08-13 Thread Mark J. Pearrow
libtiff.so.3 is typically provided by the ia32-libs package in Ubuntu  
and Debian (and presumably any other Debian-derived distros)


So you can install using the following command:

sudo aptitude install ia32-libs

I'm not sure which binary is doing the complaining, I don't see  
anything in $FREESURFER_HOME/bin that is linked against libtiff3 but I  
remember having to install the 32-bit compat library to make stuff work.


HTH,

mjp

On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:35 PM, lan lin wrote:

I'm using 64 bit Ubuntu and installed  freesurfer-Linux-rh9-stable- 
pub-v4.0.5-full.tar.gz


Everything worked fine when I tested the installation with tkmedit  
and tksurfer.
I then ran recon-all and got error message  while loading shared  
libraries:libtiff.so.3.

I have tried
ln /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4 /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3

But still got same error message.
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Re: [Freesurfer] libXmu error on cluster

2008-03-23 Thread Mark J. Pearrow

Hi Pedro,

What do you see if you run the following command:

ldd /usr/lib/libXmu.so.6

Once you fix the problem, if you are running FreeSurfer 4, I *think*  
you can re-run recon-all with the -make flag and it will just do the  
processing that got missed.


mjp


On Mar 22, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Pedro Paulo Oliveira Jr wrote:

Hi,

I ran 40 process and all finished with

/b/03/netfi01/freesurfer/subjects/rodiguespierinam/scripts/recon- 
all.log:mris_volmask.bin: error while loading shared libraries:  
libXmu.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


But in /usr/lib there is a libXmu.so.6

My questions are:

1)  Anybody know why it failed?
2)  If I fix this how can I run recon-all from this point?

Thanks

PPJ
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Re: [Freesurfer] CentOS 5.1 and freesurfer and tksurfer

2008-03-06 Thread Mark J. Pearrow

Hi Dhruman,

I had this problem with a Debian (Etch) system with an ATI card, and  
the way I got it to work was to install the fglrx driver for the ATI  
card. I also was missing a bunch of OpenGL stuff, too, but I think the  
driver was the main issue. I'm unfamiliar with CentOS but these  
instructions seem to make sense:


http://www.linlap.com/wiki/Configuring+the+fglrx+driver+for+ATI+graphics+chips+in+CentOS+and+RHEL+5

mjp

On Mar 6, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Goradia, Dhruman D wrote:


Hi all,
I am facing the same problem with CentOS 5 and tksurfer.Is there any  
fix

for this problem?
Thank you,
-Dhruman
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick
Schmansky
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] CentOS 5.1 and freesurfer and tksurfer

Does glxgears work?  That is an app that comes with Linux that  
exercises

the GLX (OpenGL X extension) code.


On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 20:41 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear FS experts,

I install CentOS 5.1 and latest version of ATI driver and FS4.0.2,
when I start tkmedit, it looks fine. In tksurfer, it just appear a
sliver of surface without error message. In console, it stock on
reading vertex.

Is there anyway to correct it ?

Thanks replay

Kl chen


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