Re: [Freesurfer] Editing the endpoint ROIs, and re-running trac-all -path

2013-07-15 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


Hi Susie - The initial placement of the control points plays a much bigger 
role than the end ROIs. The path being initialized in a bad location would 
be more of a problem than the end ROIs being too generous. So I'd check 
rh.unc_AS_avg32_mni_bbr_cpts_5.nii.gz before editing the end ROIs. Does 
that look like it's better placed on right than the left? I'd also check 
if the brain mask (aparc+aseg_mask) is any different in that area on one 
side.


Hope this helps,
a.y

On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Susan Kuo wrote:


Hi Anastasia, 
  For one of my subjects, I am noticing that the right uncinate fasciculus is 
very diffuse and more importantly, erroneously crosses from the frontal to the
temporal lobe. I looked at the original endpoint ROI generated by trac-all 
-prior (rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_end1.nii.gz) and the dilated endpoint ROI in the
temporal lobe (rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_end1_dil.nii.gz) and noticed that the 
endpoints appeared to cross over into the frontal lobe.

  Attached is a snapshot for your perusal. On the left side is a display of the 
subject/dmri/dtifit_FA.nii with the
subject/dpath/rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr/path.pd.nii.gz tract superimposed over. 
As you can see, the right unc tract crosses from the frontal to the temporal
lobe. On the right side is a display of the subject/dmri/brain_anat_mni.nii.gz with 
the endpoints subject/dlabel/mni/rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_end2.nii.gz in
green and subject/dlabel/mni/rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_end1.nii.gz in blue (the 
red dots are control points). As you can see, the blue endpoints bleed over from
the temporal to the frontal lobe. 

  I tried to eliminate these blue points with fslview and then writing over 
rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_end1.nii.gz. I performed a similar function manually 
editing
rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_end1_dil.nii.gz to better reflect the boundaries . I 
subsequently tried to re-run trac-all -path, and  unfortunately, all my tracts
looked much worse. 


   Do you know if incorrectly placed endpoints impair the path reconstruction? 
Do you think you can help me? Any advice you can give would be much 
appreciated. 


--
Susie Kuo
NIH

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genius. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes- Valley of Fear

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[Freesurfer] Editing the endpoint ROIs, and re-running trac-all -path

2013-07-09 Thread Susan Kuo
Hi Anastasia,

  For one of my subjects, I am noticing that the right uncinate fasciculus
is very diffuse and more importantly, erroneously crosses from the frontal
to the temporal lobe. I looked at the original endpoint ROI generated by
trac-all -prior (rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_end1.nii.gz) and the dilated
endpoint ROI in the temporal lobe (rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_end1_dil.nii.gz)
and noticed that the endpoints appeared to cross over into the frontal lobe.

  Attached is a snapshot for your perusal. On the left side is a display of
the subject/dmri/dtifit_FA.nii with the
subject/dpath/rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr/path.pd.nii.gz tract superimposed
over. As you can see, the right unc tract crosses from the frontal to the
temporal lobe. On the right side is a display of the
subject/dmri/brain_anat_mni.nii.gz with the endpoints
subject/dlabel/mni/rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_end2.nii.gz in green
and subject/dlabel/mni/rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_end1.nii.gz in blue (the
red dots are control points). As you can see, the blue endpoints bleed over
from the temporal to the frontal lobe.

  I tried to eliminate these blue points with fslview and then writing over
rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_end1.nii.gz. I performed a similar function
manually editing rh.unc_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_end1_dil.nii.gz to better reflect
the boundaries . I subsequently tried to re-run trac-all -path, and
 unfortunately, all my tracts looked much worse.


   Do you know if incorrectly placed endpoints impair the path
reconstruction? Do you think you can help me? Any advice you can give would
be much appreciated.








-- 
Susie Kuo
NIH

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recognizes genius. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle,* Sherlock Holmes- Valley of
Fear*
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