Re: [Freesurfer] Large areas of white matter ignored, even with control points

2014-04-10 Thread Louis Nicholas Vinke

Hi Andrea,
Take a look at the ?h.orig.nofix surfaces.  Does it look like the wm edits 
were picked up in those initial surfaces?  Also, just check that the edits 
to the wm.mgz were 255 and that there are no major disconnects anywhere. 
-Louis


On Fri, 4 Apr 2014, Andrea Grant wrote:


I was able to quickly edit my WM.mgz file using the contour edit that Louis 
suggested.
However, when I then re-run the recon-all with -autorecon2-wm and -autorecon3, 
it doesn't
correct the problem. I'm attaching two figures (with and without the edited 
WM.mgz overlay).
What are my next steps to correct the segmentation?

Thanks,

Andrea


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Louis Nicholas Vinke 
vi...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
  Hi Andrea,
  You can use the contour tool in the voxel edit mode to quickly and 
roughly fill
  in wm.  Use the tool with the wm.mgz selected in the volume layer list 
but set
  the brainmask (or T1) as the reference.  Set brush value to 255, and then 
do
  crtl+alt+leftbutton while dragging the mouse to adjust the contour, and 
then
  crtl+leftclick to fill in selected regions.  Note that the cerebellar 
white
  matter may be outlined by the contour as well, but if it doesn't connect 
with the
  cortical wm then it won't be filled in.
  -Louis



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Re: [Freesurfer] Large areas of white matter ignored, even with control points

2014-03-07 Thread Louis Nicholas Vinke
Hi Andrea,
You can use the contour tool in the voxel edit mode to quickly and roughly 
fill in wm.  Use the tool with the wm.mgz selected in the volume layer 
list but set the brainmask (or T1) as the reference.  Set brush value to 
255, and then do crtl+alt+leftbutton while dragging the mouse to adjust 
the contour, and then crtl+leftclick to fill in selected regions.  Note 
that the cerebellar white matter may be outlined by the contour as well, 
but if it doesn't connect with the cortical wm then it won't be filled in.
-Louis

On Thu, 6 Mar 2014, Andrea Grant wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I'm working with T1 weighted scans obtained at 7T and have a problem with a 
 subject. I preprocess the images to deal
 with the B1 inhomogeneity (normalize to PD and mask noisy pixels), and have 
 successfully segmented about 20 scans. I
 often need to use control points, but they normally work just as I expect. 
 However, I have one subject where large
 areas of the brain are completely excluded from the segmentation (basically 
 the entire occipital lobe). I added control
 points and re-ran, to no effect.
 
 I'm attaching a screenshot of the brainmask with surfaces, my control points, 
 and the white matter mask. Clearly, the
 skull stripping wasn't very successful (I adjusted the watershed threshold 
 manually, but at one value I got the current
 result and at a single integer lower I lost half the brain). I have 
 successfully segmented other subjects with equally
 poor skull strips, though, so I don't believe this has any bearing on the 
 current issue.
 
 Is editing the white matter mask the only way to fix this? If so, do I need 
 to carefully fill in on every slice, or can
 I just brush in here and there to sort of goose the white matter into that 
 region? I can do the slice by slice fix,
 but if there's a way to avoid the several hours it will take me, I would love 
 to know!
 
 Thanks,
 
 Andrea
 
 -
 Andrea Grant
 Visual Neuroimaging Technologist
 Center for Magnetic Resonance Research, University of Minnesota
 2021 6th St. SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455, 612-626-4948
 gran0...@umn.edu
 umn.edu/~gran0260
 

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