[Freesurfer] Nvidia upgrade considerations

2011-08-05 Thread Andries R. Van Der Leij
Dear freesurfer team

I'm currently investigating how to tweak 2 2 year old Dell 7400 Xeon
machine's to run a large batch of fs jobs. Upgrading to Nehalem won't work,
since it will require a new motherboard as well. However, we can replace our
old non-fermi quadro card with a C2050.

As an alternative, I was thinking about buying two GTX590 (two times 580 and
1.5 GB ram) or two palit GTX580 (1 times 580 with 3GB ram) and running them
in SLI. This will save quite some money, and intuitively, it feels that more
separate cards will work better if you start batching more recon scripts at
the same time (1 per CPU). You'll end up with 6 gb of vram in both cases
compared to the 3 for the C2050, with 4 processors for the 590 and 2 for the
580. As I don't understand cuda and sli well, I may very well be completely
wrong. I'm not sure fi that running jobs under sli will work well. Do you
have any ideas on this solution compared to a single c2050?

thank you very much in advance,

Andries van der Leij
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Re: [Freesurfer] Nvidia upgrade considerations

2011-08-05 Thread R Edgar
2011/8/5 Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior p...@netfilter.com.br:
 In my experience you'll have the benefit of using two cards simultaneously.
 That means you can run two recon-all with gpu acceleration simultaneously.
 The SLI is more important for graphics (cad, gaming) than for CUDA. So, I'd
 go for 2 GTX580

CUDA doesn't use SLI at all - you don't want it. So long as each card
has enough RAM to handle one recon job, having more cards and using
the environment variable to select the GPU is certainly the way to go.
I don't think that Freesurfer is particularly heavy on the PCIe bus,
so you should even be able to get one of the dual GPU cards and get
good performance. However, Nehalem does help the data reorganisation
required for the GPU.

Richard

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Re: [Freesurfer] Nvidia upgrade considerations

2011-08-05 Thread Andries R. Van Der Leij
Hi pedro and Richard,

Thank you for the responses! The T7400 has just one gpu slot, so I'll
probably just buy the single 590, which itself is a dual card. The
2050 doesn't seem to be worth it on these older systems (ddr2, etc).

For my supervisor, what kind of performance increase should I expect
if we buy a newer nehalem system?

Regards,

Andries van der leij

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2011, at 20:21, R Edgar freesurfer@gmail.com wrote:

 2011/8/5 Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior p...@netfilter.com.b
 r:
 In my experience you'll have the benefit of using two cards
 simultaneously.
 That means you can run two recon-all with gpu acceleration
 simultaneously.
 The SLI is more important for graphics (cad, gaming) than for CUDA.
 So, I'd
 go for 2 GTX580

 CUDA doesn't use SLI at all - you don't want it. So long as each card
 has enough RAM to handle one recon job, having more cards and using
 the environment variable to select the GPU is certainly the way to go.
 I don't think that Freesurfer is particularly heavy on the PCIe bus,
 so you should even be able to get one of the dual GPU cards and get
 good performance. However, Nehalem does help the data reorganisation
 required for the GPU.

 Richard

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Re: [Freesurfer] Nvidia upgrade considerations

2011-08-05 Thread Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior
I would go for a complete new PC. You won't benefit much of a GTX590 in an
old PC

PPJ

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2011/8/5 Andries R. Van Der Leij a.r.vanderl...@gmail.com

 Hi pedro and Richard,

 Thank you for the responses! The T7400 has just one gpu slot, so I'll
 probably just buy the single 590, which itself is a dual card. The
 2050 doesn't seem to be worth it on these older systems (ddr2, etc).

 For my supervisor, what kind of performance increase should I expect
 if we buy a newer nehalem system?

 Regards,

 Andries van der leij

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 5, 2011, at 20:21, R Edgar freesurfer@gmail.com wrote:

  2011/8/5 Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior p...@netfilter.com.b
  r:
  In my experience you'll have the benefit of using two cards
  simultaneously.
  That means you can run two recon-all with gpu acceleration
  simultaneously.
  The SLI is more important for graphics (cad, gaming) than for CUDA.
  So, I'd
  go for 2 GTX580
 
  CUDA doesn't use SLI at all - you don't want it. So long as each card
  has enough RAM to handle one recon job, having more cards and using
  the environment variable to select the GPU is certainly the way to go.
  I don't think that Freesurfer is particularly heavy on the PCIe bus,
  so you should even be able to get one of the dual GPU cards and get
  good performance. However, Nehalem does help the data reorganisation
  required for the GPU.
 
  Richard

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Re: [Freesurfer] Nvidia upgrade considerations

2011-08-05 Thread R Edgar
2011/8/5 Andries R. Van Der Leij a.r.vanderl...@gmail.com:

 For my supervisor, what kind of performance increase should I expect
 if we buy a newer nehalem system?

Freesurfer as a whole is quite keen on the improved memory subsystem
offered by Nehalem. A figure of 2x (CPU only stream) is floating in my
mind, but I don't recall the exact two setups.

Richard
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