Re: [Freesurfer] R: Re: Problem with tracula: incomplete or lacking tracts

2013-03-25 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


I also remember that your brain masks had some big chunks of brain 
missing. Was whatever caused that fixed as well?


On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:


Yes, I fix them. I'm attacking the maps after the last trac-all.

Stefano


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Data: 25-mar-2013 17.26
A: std...@virgilio.it
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Ogg: Re: Problem with tracula: incomplete or lacking tracts


Hi Stefano - As I recall, we established that your bvecs were wrong. Did
you fix them?

a.y

On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:

 Hi Anastasia,

 I ran again trac-all, after checking all bvecs. Some tract are incomplete. Is 
possible that it depends from
 an error in my configuration file?

 I'm using to create bvecs file DTI TABLE CREATOR. Do you advice mi another  
one?

 Thanks,


 Stefano



 On Fri, 22 Mar 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:

  Thank you Anastasia.
  I'm checking bvecs/bvals. I obtain it by DTI table creator
  (http://godzilla.kennedykrieger.org/~jfarrell/OTHERphilips/GUI.html)
 
  bvecs/bvals should be done.
 
  Gradients can be the unique responsable?
 
 
  Stefano
 
 
 
 
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  Da: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Data: 22-mar-2013 17.07
  A: std...@virgilio.it
  Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Ogg: Re: [Freesurfer] R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: R: Re: Problem with tracula: 
incomplete or lacking tracts
 
 
  Your gradient table is wrong. See where I've marked the corpus callosum in
  your screenshot. The eigenvectors are not pointing along the corpus
  callosum, but perpendicular to it. So they're off by 90 degrees, which
  means the same is true about the vectors in your gradient table.
 
  On Fri, 22 Mar 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:
 
   Hi Anastasia - I attacked the screenshots.
   Thanks,
  
  
   Stefano
  
  
  
   Messaggio originale
   Da: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   Data: 22-mar-2013 1.39
   A: std...@virgilio.it
   Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   Ogg: Re: [Freesurfer] R: Re: R: Re: R: R: Re: Problem with tracula: 
incomplete or lacking tracts
  
  
   Hi Stefano - There's nothing in these screenshots that tells you that the
   eigenvectors are correct. These are vectors, so the way to check them is
   to display them as lines. You display dtifit_V1 as lines, overlaid on
   dtifit_FA. Then you see if the lines point in the right direction.
  
   a.y
  
   On Fri, 22 Mar 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:
  
Here they are attacked.
Thanks,
   
   
Stefano
   
   
   
   
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Data: 21-mar-2013 21.50
A: std...@virgilio.it
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Ogg: Re: R: Re: [Freesurfer] R: R: Re: Problem with tracula: incomplete 
or
lacking tracts
   
   
Can you send a screenshot that shows dtifit_V1 and dtifit_FA?
   
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:
   
 I have checked the gradient directions. How can I resolve the brain 
mask
 problem. 
 Can I send you my files of this subject?
 Stefano



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 Data: 20-mar-2013 22.46
 A: std...@virgilio.it
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 Ogg: Re: [Freesurfer] R: R: Re: Problem with tracula: incomplete or
lacking
 tracts


 There are chunks of the brain missing from the brain mask. This may 
cause
 some tracts to be incomplete or missing.

 But you should still check that the gradient directions are correct, 
so
 you know if you have multiple problems or just one. The FA map can't 
tell
 you if the gradient table was correct, you have to check the 
eigenvectors
 in dtifit_V1 for that.


 On Wed, 20 Mar 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:

  File attacked
 
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  Data: 20-mar-2013 22.34
  A: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Ogg: [Freesurfer] R: Re: Problem with tracula: incomplete or lacking
 tracts
 
  Thank you Anastasia. I'm checking gradient table but I would like
 underline that I'm noting some holes in
  dti_FA.nii.gz  and not in dwi.nii.gz (I have attacked the relative
 images).
 
  Stefano
 
  Messaggio originale
  Da: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Data: 20-mar-2013 16.40
  A: std...@virgilio.it
  Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Ogg: Re: [Freesurfer] Problem with tracula: incomplete or lacking 
tracts
 
 
  Hi Stefano - Have you checked that your gradient table is correct by
  looking at the output of the tensor fit?
 
  a.y
 
  On Wed, 20 Mar 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:
 
   Hi list and Anastasia,
   if you remember the last week I had same problems with tracula 
output:
 the  final tract are lacking

[Freesurfer] R: Re: Problem with tracula: incomplete or lacking tracts

2013-03-20 Thread stdp82
Thank you Anastasia. I'm checking gradient table but I would like underline 
that I'm noting some holes in dti_FA.nii.gz  and not in dwi.nii.gz (I have 
attacked the relative images).

Stefano



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Da: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Data: 20-mar-2013 16.40
A: std...@virgilio.it
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Ogg: Re: [Freesurfer] Problem with tracula: incomplete or lacking tracts


Hi Stefano - Have you checked that your gradient table is correct by 
looking at the output of the tensor fit?

a.y

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:

 Hi list and Anastasia,
 if you remember the last week I had same problems with tracula output: the  
 final tract are lacking or
 incomplete for same subjects. Some of these are less wrong (only forceps 
 major), other have more evident
 error (you can see this in picture that I have attacked). 
 
 To resolve this issue I have:
 
 1-checked the correct overlap of dwi and dwi_mask
 2-rerun data with new version 5.2
 3-rerun new registration using bbregister (fsl/spm option): for example, in 
 the subject of the picture
 attacked, the .mincost file now contains as first value 0.87 (previous it was 
 1.1)
 
 Please, give me an advise
 
 Thanks
 
 
 Stefano
 
 
 
 
 Messaggio originale
 Da: std...@virgilio.it
 Data: 12-mar-2013 17.47
 A: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Ogg: [Freesurfer] R: Re: R: Re: Question on tracula and dwi-T1 overlap
 
 I got it from mri directory but I'm understanding that this directory isn't 
 ok.I'm attacking the image
 from dlabel/diff/aparc+aseg.bbr.nii
 
 
 Stefano
 
 
 
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 Data: 12-mar-2013 17.19
 A: std...@virgilio.it
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Ogg: Re: [Freesurfer] R: Re:  Question on tracula and dwi-T1 overlap
 
 
 Can you please answer my question? I can't really tell if the issue is due 
 poor dwi-aseg overlap unless you tell me where you got that aseg volume 
 from.
 
 On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:
 
  Thank you Anastasia. What do you think about the issue in the file attacked
  (I'm noting that same subjects are lacking of same
   tracts or same tracts are incomplete)
  
  
  Stefano
  
  
  Messaggio originale
  Da: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Data: 12-mar-2013 17.02
  A: std...@virgilio.it
  Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Ogg: Re: [Freesurfer] Question on tracula and dwi-T1 overlap
  
  
  Hi Stefano - Where did you get the aseg.nii.gz from? Anything that's in
  the dlabel/diff/ directory has been mapped to the same space as the DWI,
  so those are the volumes that can be compared directly to dwi.nii.gz.
  
  a.y
  
  On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:
  
   Hi list,
  
   I have two questions, please.
  
   I'm using version 5.1 to complete my analysis.
  
   1- I have attacked two images from aseg.nii.gz and dwi.nii.gz of the same
   subject (figure 1 and 3). You can note the dwi do not overlap to the aseg.
   How can I resolve this issue? 
  
   2-After TRACULA analysis, I'm noting that same subjects are lacking of
  same
   tracts or same tracts are incomplete (figure 3).
  
   Could it depends from the issue in question 1? I'm thinking to rerun all
   using version 5.2 but before starting new analyses, I'd like to ask you
   which is the possible error.
  
  
   Stefano
  
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