Re: [Freesurfer] single subject versus a group map in qdec

2011-03-31 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Emily, it is just performing a two "group" analysis, where one of 
your groups only has a single subject. There is nothing wrong with what 
you did, it all comes down to what conclusion you are trying to draw 
from it. I think it is ok for a case report.
doug

Emily Rogalski wrote:
> Using q dec we have run a single patient versus a group of healthy 
> control subjects (n=20ish) and found significant differences even 
> after FDR correction.
>
> Could you describe the process qdec uses to compute these differences?
> Is it legitimate to report these single subject maps?
> Practically this is very useful for case reports but Im concerned 
> about violating statistical rules.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [Freesurfer] single subject versus a group map in qdec

2011-03-24 Thread Derin Cobia
I'm curious about the use of this method as well (thanks for the paper PPJ).  
Bruce/Doug, how exactly does QDEC treat this design?  Can a single-subject 
comparison properly be done?  Thanks.  

-Derin


On Mar 23, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior wrote:

> We have dono something like this in Cortical thickness reduction of normal 
> appearing cortex in patients with polymicrogyria
> 
> cheers,
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> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 14:21, Emily Rogalski  wrote:
> Using q dec we have run a single patient versus a group of healthy control 
> subjects (n=20ish) and found significant differences even after FDR 
> correction.
> 
> Could you describe the process qdec uses to compute these differences? 
> Is it legitimate to report these single subject maps?
> Practically this is very useful for case reports but Im concerned about 
> violating statistical rules. 
> 
> Thanks!
> -- 
> Emily J Rogalski, PhD
> Assistant Research Professor
> Northwestern University
> Cognitive Neurology and Alzheimer's Disease Center (CNADC)
> 320 E Superior Street
> Searle Building 11th Floor
> Chicago, IL 60611
> 312-503-1155 phone
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Re: [Freesurfer] single subject versus a group map in qdec

2011-03-23 Thread Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior
We have dono something like this in Cortical thickness reduction of normal
appearing cortex in patients with
polymicrogyria


cheers,

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On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 14:21, Emily Rogalski  wrote:

> Using q dec we have run a single patient versus a group of healthy control
> subjects (n=20ish) and found significant differences even after FDR
> correction.
>
> Could you describe the process qdec uses to compute these differences?
> Is it legitimate to report these single subject maps?
> Practically this is very useful for case reports but Im concerned about
> violating statistical rules.
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Emily J Rogalski, PhD
> Assistant Research Professor
> Northwestern University
> Cognitive Neurology and Alzheimer's Disease Center (CNADC)
> 320 E Superior Street
> Searle Building 11th Floor
> Chicago, IL 60611
> 312-503-1155 phone
> 312-908-8789 fax
> erogal...@gmail.com
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[Freesurfer] single subject versus a group map in qdec

2011-03-23 Thread Emily Rogalski
Using q dec we have run a single patient versus a group of healthy control
subjects (n=20ish) and found significant differences even after FDR
correction.

Could you describe the process qdec uses to compute these differences?
Is it legitimate to report these single subject maps?
Practically this is very useful for case reports but Im concerned about
violating statistical rules.

Thanks!
-- 
Emily J Rogalski, PhD
Assistant Research Professor
Northwestern University
Cognitive Neurology and Alzheimer's Disease Center (CNADC)
320 E Superior Street
Searle Building 11th Floor
Chicago, IL 60611
312-503-1155 phone
312-908-8789 fax
erogal...@gmail.com
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