[Freesurfer] z-test differences from fscalc and mri_glmfit

2013-11-05 Thread Jonathan DuBois
Hi All,

In a previous post Doug suggested two methods for generating voxel-wise
z-score maps, one using glmfit with one subject in one group and the second
using fscalc.fsl. Link to post:
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2010-June/014673.html


I have tried both methods using PET data registered to the surface, but get
very different results from fscalc and mri_glmfit. The results I expect are
given by fscalc, but I would also like to run the Monte Carlo-based MCC,
which requires a glmdir. Is there another way to run MC MCC on the z-map
generated by fscal or alternatively, is the code that I am using for glmfit
wrong? A simplified version of the code for both analyses is below. I am
using FS 5.3 with the fsl binaries from the release notes on mac OS 10.8.


Thanks for your help
Jon

--mri_glmfit:
for h in rh lh; do mris_preproc --target fsaverage --hemi $h --iv
nc01_mrispace_pet.mgz nc01_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --iv
nc02_mrispace_pet.mgz nc02_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --iv
nc03_mrispace_pet.mgz nc03_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --iv
pat01_mrispace_pet.mgz pat01_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --pf 0.5 --out
${h}.pat01_allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage.mgh

for h in rh lh; do mri_surf2surf --hemi $h --s fsaverage --fwhm 10 --cortex
--sval ${h}.${s}pat01_allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage.mgh --tval
${h}.${s}pat01_allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_fwhm10.mgh; done

for h in rh lh; do mri_glmfit --y
${h}.${s}pat01_allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_fwhm10.mgh --fsgd
patient1_allcontrols_ztest.fsgd dods --C group2_cov0_diff.mtx --surf
fsaverage $h --cortex --glmdir
${h}.${s}pat01_allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_fwhm10.glmdir

*patient1_allcontrols_ztest.fsgd*:
GroupDescriptorFile 1
Title patient01_ztest
Class Patient
Class Control
Input pat01 Patient
Input nc01 Control
Input nc02 Control
Input nc03 Control

*group2_cov0_diff.mtx*:
-1 1

--fscalc.fsl:
for h in rh lh; do mris_preproc --target fsaverage --hemi $h --iv
nc01_mrispace_pet.mgz nc01_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --iv
nc02_mrispace_pet.mgz nc02_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --iv
nc03_mrispace_pet.mgz nc03_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --pf 0.5 --out
${h}.allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage.mgh

for h in rh lh; do mris_preproc --target fsaverage --hemi $h --iv
pat01_mrispace_pet.mgz pat01_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --pf 0.5 --out
${h}.patient01_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage.mgh

for h in rh lh; do for stat in mean std; do mri_concat
${h}.allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage.mgh --o
${h}.allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_${stat}.mgh --${stat}; done; done

for h in rh lh; do fscalc.fsl --surf fsaverage $h
${h}.patient01_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage.mgh -sub
${h}.allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_mean.mgh -div
${h}.allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_std.mgh
${h}.patient01_vs_allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_zmap.mgh; done
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Re: [Freesurfer] z-test differences from fscalc and mri_glmfit

2013-11-05 Thread Douglas N Greve

When you say that you are getting very different results, what are you 
comparing exactly? I can't tell what your mri_glmfit command is because 
it is embedded in a script with lots of variables. Have mercy on me and 
just give me a simple command line that I don't have to struggle with:)
doug





On 11/05/2013 02:21 PM, Jonathan DuBois wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> In a previous post Doug suggested two methods for generating 
> voxel-wise z-score maps, one using glmfit with one subject in one 
> group and the second using fscalc.fsl. Link to post: 
> https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2010-June/014673.html 
>
>
> I have tried both methods using PET data registered to the surface, 
> but get very different results from fscalc and mri_glmfit. The results 
> I expect are given by fscalc, but I would also like to run the Monte 
> Carlo-based MCC, which requires a glmdir. Is there another way to run 
> MC MCC on the z-map generated by fscal or alternatively, is the code 
> that I am using for glmfit wrong? A simplified version of the code for 
> both analyses is below. I am using FS 5.3 with the fsl binaries from 
> the release notes on mac OS 10.8.
>
>
> Thanks for your help
> Jon
>
> --mri_glmfit:
> for h in rh lh; do mris_preproc --target fsaverage --hemi $h --iv 
> nc01_mrispace_pet.mgz nc01_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --iv 
> nc02_mrispace_pet.mgz nc02_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --iv 
> nc03_mrispace_pet.mgz nc03_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --iv 
> pat01_mrispace_pet.mgz pat01_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --pf 0.5 
> --out ${h}.pat01_allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage.mgh
>
> for h in rh lh; do mri_surf2surf --hemi $h --s fsaverage --fwhm 10 
> --cortex --sval 
> ${h}.${s}pat01_allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage.mgh --tval 
> ${h}.${s}pat01_allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_fwhm10.mgh; done
>
> for h in rh lh; do mri_glmfit --y 
> ${h}.${s}pat01_allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_fwhm10.mgh --fsgd 
> patient1_allcontrols_ztest.fsgd dods --C group2_cov0_diff.mtx --surf 
> fsaverage $h --cortex --glmdir 
> ${h}.${s}pat01_allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_fwhm10.glmdir
>
> *patient1_allcontrols_ztest.fsgd*:
> GroupDescriptorFile 1
> Title patient01_ztest
> Class Patient
> Class Control
> Input pat01 Patient
> Input nc01 Control
> Input nc02 Control
> Input nc03 Control
>
> *group2_cov0_diff.mtx*:
> -1 1
>
> --fscalc.fsl:
> for h in rh lh; do mris_preproc --target fsaverage --hemi $h --iv 
> nc01_mrispace_pet.mgz nc01_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --iv 
> nc02_mrispace_pet.mgz nc02_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --iv 
> nc03_mrispace_pet.mgz nc03_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --pf 0.5 
> --out ${h}.allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage.mgh
>
> for h in rh lh; do mris_preproc --target fsaverage --hemi $h --iv 
> pat01_mrispace_pet.mgz pat01_mrispace_pet_2_T1_register.dat --pf 0.5 
> --out ${h}.patient01_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage.mgh
>
> for h in rh lh; do for stat in mean std; do mri_concat 
> ${h}.allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage.mgh --o 
> ${h}.allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_${stat}.mgh --${stat}; done; 
> done
>
> for h in rh lh; do fscalc.fsl --surf fsaverage $h 
> ${h}.patient01_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage.mgh -sub 
> ${h}.allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_mean.mgh -div 
> ${h}.allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_std.mgh 
> ${h}.patient01_vs_allcontrols_pet_ztest_pf05_fsaverage_zmap.mgh; done
>
>
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