Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error
dmri_paths is producing a segmentation fault. How can I fix this? thanks JOn - Original Message - From: "Jon Wieser" To: "freesurfer" Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:54:55 AM Subject: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error Dear freesurfer experts I'm getting the following error when runing trac-all -c dmrirc_single_subject -path Loading initial proposal SD's from /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1084/data/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5_std.txt Processing pathway 3 of 18... Initializing MCMC Segmentation fault Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 I have attached the trac-all.log and trac-all.error files I am running tracula 5.3 -- Jon Wieser Research Specialist UW-Milwaukee Psychology Department, Pearse Hall Rm 366 2441 East Hartford Ave Milwaukee, WI 53211 Phone: 414-229-7145 Fax: 414-229-5219 ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error
Hi Jon - Have you checked the brain mask and aparc+aseg for this subject? Anything missing there that might affect the left ILF? a.y On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > > Dear freesurfer experts > I'm getting the following error when runing trac-all -c dmrirc_single_subject > -path > > > Loading initial proposal SD's from > /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1084/data/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5_std.txt > Processing pathway 3 of 18... > Initializing MCMC > Segmentation fault > Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 > 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 > > > I have attached the trac-all.log and trac-all.error files > > I am running tracula 5.3 > ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error
Hi Anastasia, I din't see anything missing from the brainmask or aparc+seg. I sent you the brainmask and aparc+seg files did you find anything wrong. if not, what else could cause the segmentatino fault? Thanks - Original Message - From: "Anastasia Yendiki" To: "Jon Wieser" Cc: "freesurfer" Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:15:23 PM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error Hi Jon - Have you checked the brain mask and aparc+aseg for this subject? Anything missing there that might affect the left ILF? a.y On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > > Dear freesurfer experts > I'm getting the following error when runing trac-all -c dmrirc_single_subject > -path > > > Loading initial proposal SD's from > /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1084/data/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5_std.txt > Processing pathway 3 of 18... > Initializing MCMC > Segmentation fault > Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 > 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 > > > I have attached the trac-all.log and trac-all.error files > > I am running tracula 5.3 > The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error
Hi Jon - You need to look at the aparc+aseg after it has been mapped to diffusion space. It's possible that it looks fine in its original space but then maybe something goes wrong with the registration. So you should look at the aparc+aseg and aparc+aseg_mask files from the tracula dlabel/diff directory. These are in diffusion space and you can overlay them on the FA map to see if there's anything strange in the ILF area. Hope this helps, a.y On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > Hi anastasia > I looked at the brainmask and the aparc+aseg. I did see anything missing in > the area of the left ILF. > I have attached the files. can you take a look at them? > Thanks > JOn > > - Original Message - > From: "Anastasia Yendiki" > To: "Jon Wieser" > Cc: "freesurfer" > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:15:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error > > > Hi Jon - Have you checked the brain mask and aparc+aseg for this subject? > Anything missing there that might affect the left ILF? > > a.y > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > >> >> Dear freesurfer experts >> I'm getting the following error when runing trac-all -c >> dmrirc_single_subject -path >> >> >> Loading initial proposal SD's from >> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1084/data/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5_std.txt >> Processing pathway 3 of 18... >> Initializing MCMC >> Segmentation fault >> Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 >> 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 >> >> >> I have attached the trac-all.log and trac-all.error files >> >> I am running tracula 5.3 >> > > > The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is > addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail > contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine > at > http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in > error > but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and > properly > dispose of the e-mail. > > ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error
So there's your culprit. You need to fix the intra-subject (diffusion-to-T1) registration. Did you use flirt or bbregister for that? On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > Hi Anastasia, > I looked at the dlabel/diff/Aparc+aseg overlayed on the dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz > the alignemenst is way off (in freeview, in the coronal view, the aparc+seg > is rotated 45 degrees anti-clockwise), and parts of the FA map in the L ILF > area are missing. the original DTI is not missing data in these areas. I > have attached screenshots > Jon > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Anastasia Yendiki" > To: "Jon Wieser" > Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 6:35:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error > > > Hi Jon - You need to look at the aparc+aseg after it has been mapped to > diffusion space. It's possible that it looks fine in its original space > but then maybe something goes wrong with the registration. So you should > look at the aparc+aseg and aparc+aseg_mask files from the tracula > dlabel/diff directory. These are in diffusion space and you can overlay > them on the FA map to see if there's anything strange in the ILF area. > > Hope this helps, > a.y > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > >> Hi anastasia >> I looked at the brainmask and the aparc+aseg. I did see anything missing >> in the area of the left ILF. >> I have attached the files. can you take a look at them? >> Thanks >> JOn >> >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" >> To: "Jon Wieser" >> Cc: "freesurfer" >> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:15:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error >> >> >> Hi Jon - Have you checked the brain mask and aparc+aseg for this subject? >> Anything missing there that might affect the left ILF? >> >> a.y >> >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear freesurfer experts >>> I'm getting the following error when runing trac-all -c >>> dmrirc_single_subject -path >>> >>> >>> Loading initial proposal SD's from >>> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1084/data/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5_std.txt >>> Processing pathway 3 of 18... >>> Initializing MCMC >>> Segmentation fault >>> Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 >>> 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 >>> >>> >>> I have attached the trac-all.log and trac-all.error files >>> >>> I am running tracula 5.3 >>> >> >> >> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is >> addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail >> contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance >> HelpLine at >> http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in >> error >> but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and >> properly >> dispose of the e-mail. >> >> ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error
Hi Anastasia, We used both flirt and bbr registration in the dmrirc file, the Aparc+seg I just showedd you was from the BBR resitration. I looked at the flirt registration. it looks OK. should I rerun tracula using only the flirt registration? Jon - Original Message - From: "Anastasia Yendiki" To: "Jon Wieser" Cc: "freesurfer" Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:00:25 AM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error So there's your culprit. You need to fix the intra-subject (diffusion-to-T1) registration. Did you use flirt or bbregister for that? On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > Hi Anastasia, > I looked at the dlabel/diff/Aparc+aseg overlayed on the dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz > the alignemenst is way off (in freeview, in the coronal view, the aparc+seg > is rotated 45 degrees anti-clockwise), and parts of the FA map in the L ILF > area are missing. the original DTI is not missing data in these areas. I > have attached screenshots > Jon > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Anastasia Yendiki" > To: "Jon Wieser" > Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 6:35:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error > > > Hi Jon - You need to look at the aparc+aseg after it has been mapped to > diffusion space. It's possible that it looks fine in its original space > but then maybe something goes wrong with the registration. So you should > look at the aparc+aseg and aparc+aseg_mask files from the tracula > dlabel/diff directory. These are in diffusion space and you can overlay > them on the FA map to see if there's anything strange in the ILF area. > > Hope this helps, > a.y > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > >> Hi anastasia >> I looked at the brainmask and the aparc+aseg. I did see anything missing >> in the area of the left ILF. >> I have attached the files. can you take a look at them? >> Thanks >> JOn >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" >> To: "Jon Wieser" >> Cc: "freesurfer" >> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:15:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error >> >> >> Hi Jon - Have you checked the brain mask and aparc+aseg for this subject? >> Anything missing there that might affect the left ILF? >> >> a.y >> >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear freesurfer experts >>> I'm getting the following error when runing trac-all -c >>> dmrirc_single_subject -path >>> >>> >>> Loading initial proposal SD's from >>> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1084/data/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5_std.txt >>> Processing pathway 3 of 18... >>> Initializing MCMC >>> Segmentation fault >>> Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 >>> 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 >>> >>> >>> I have attached the trac-all.log and trac-all.error files >>> >>> I am running tracula 5.3 >>> >> >> >> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is >> addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail >> contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance >> HelpLine at >> http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in >> error >> but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and >> properly >> dispose of the e-mail. >> >> ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error
That's entirely up to you, and whether you had a specific reason for running it both ways. If you want to fix the bbr registration manually, check the trac-all.log file for a command at the end of bbregister, where it says "To check results, run". On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > Hi Anastasia, > We used both flirt and bbr registration in the dmrirc file, the Aparc+seg I > just showedd you was from the BBR resitration. I looked at the flirt > registration. it looks OK. > should I rerun tracula using only the flirt registration? > Jon > > - Original Message - > From: "Anastasia Yendiki" > To: "Jon Wieser" > Cc: "freesurfer" > Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:00:25 AM > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error > > > So there's your culprit. You need to fix the intra-subject > (diffusion-to-T1) registration. Did you use flirt or bbregister for that? > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > >> Hi Anastasia, >> I looked at the dlabel/diff/Aparc+aseg overlayed on the dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz >> the alignemenst is way off (in freeview, in the coronal view, the aparc+seg >> is rotated 45 degrees anti-clockwise), and parts of the FA map in the L ILF >> area are missing. the original DTI is not missing data in these areas. I >> have attached screenshots >> Jon >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" >> To: "Jon Wieser" >> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu >> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 6:35:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error >> >> >> Hi Jon - You need to look at the aparc+aseg after it has been mapped to >> diffusion space. It's possible that it looks fine in its original space >> but then maybe something goes wrong with the registration. So you should >> look at the aparc+aseg and aparc+aseg_mask files from the tracula >> dlabel/diff directory. These are in diffusion space and you can overlay >> them on the FA map to see if there's anything strange in the ILF area. >> >> Hope this helps, >> a.y >> >> On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: >> >>> Hi anastasia >>> I looked at the brainmask and the aparc+aseg. I did see anything missing >>> in the area of the left ILF. >>> I have attached the files. can you take a look at them? >>> Thanks >>> JOn >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" >>> To: "Jon Wieser" >>> Cc: "freesurfer" >>> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:15:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error >>> >>> >>> Hi Jon - Have you checked the brain mask and aparc+aseg for this subject? >>> Anything missing there that might affect the left ILF? >>> >>> a.y >>> >>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Dear freesurfer experts >>>> I'm getting the following error when runing trac-all -c >>>> dmrirc_single_subject -path >>>> >>>> >>>> Loading initial proposal SD's from >>>> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1084/data/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5_std.txt >>>> Processing pathway 3 of 18... >>>> Initializing MCMC >>>> Segmentation fault >>>> Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 >>>> 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 >>>> >>>> >>>> I have attached the trac-all.log and trac-all.error files >>>> >>>> I am running tracula 5.3 >>>> >>> >>> >>> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is >>> addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the >>> e-mail >>> contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance >>> HelpLine at >>> http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in >>> error >>> but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and >>> properly >>> dispose of the e-mail. >>> >>> > > > ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error
We've generally seen better results with BBR, which is why it became the default setting. On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > HI Anastasia, > > I ran it again with the flirt registration and it finished ok. > We did not have a specific reason for running it both ways. we are using the > default setting for the dmrirc file. > do you recommend one method over the other? > > thanks again > Jon > > - Original Message - > From: "Anastasia Yendiki" > To: "Jon Wieser" > Cc: "freesurfer" > Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:07:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error > > > That's entirely up to you, and whether you had a specific reason for > running it both ways. > > If you want to fix the bbr registration manually, check the trac-all.log > file for a command at the end of bbregister, where it says "To check > results, run". > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > >> Hi Anastasia, >> We used both flirt and bbr registration in the dmrirc file, the Aparc+seg >> I just showedd you was from the BBR resitration. I looked at the flirt >> registration. it looks OK. >> should I rerun tracula using only the flirt registration? >> Jon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" >> To: "Jon Wieser" >> Cc: "freesurfer" >> Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:00:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error >> >> >> So there's your culprit. You need to fix the intra-subject >> (diffusion-to-T1) registration. Did you use flirt or bbregister for that? >> >> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: >> >>> Hi Anastasia, >>> I looked at the dlabel/diff/Aparc+aseg overlayed on the >>> dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz >>> the alignemenst is way off (in freeview, in the coronal view, the aparc+seg >>> is rotated 45 degrees anti-clockwise), and parts of the FA map in the L >>> ILF area are missing. the original DTI is not missing data in these areas. >>> I have attached screenshots >>> Jon >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" >>> To: "Jon Wieser" >>> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 6:35:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error >>> >>> >>> Hi Jon - You need to look at the aparc+aseg after it has been mapped to >>> diffusion space. It's possible that it looks fine in its original space >>> but then maybe something goes wrong with the registration. So you should >>> look at the aparc+aseg and aparc+aseg_mask files from the tracula >>> dlabel/diff directory. These are in diffusion space and you can overlay >>> them on the FA map to see if there's anything strange in the ILF area. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> a.y >>> >>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: >>> >>>> Hi anastasia >>>> I looked at the brainmask and the aparc+aseg. I did see anything missing >>>> in the area of the left ILF. >>>> I have attached the files. can you take a look at them? >>>> Thanks >>>> JOn >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" >>>> To: "Jon Wieser" >>>> Cc: "freesurfer" >>>> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:15:23 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Jon - Have you checked the brain mask and aparc+aseg for this subject? >>>> Anything missing there that might affect the left ILF? >>>> >>>> a.y >>>> >>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear freesurfer experts >>>>> I'm getting the following error when runing trac-all -c >>>>> dmrirc_single_subject -path >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Loading initial proposal SD's from >>>>> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1084/data/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5_std.txt >>>>> Processing pathway 3 of 18... >>>>> Initializing MCMC >>>>> Segmentation fault >>>>> Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 >>>>> 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have attached the trac-all.log and trac-all.error files >>>>> >>>>> I am running tracula 5.3 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it >>>> is >>>> addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the >>>> e-mail >>>> contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance >>>> HelpLine at >>>> http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in >>>> error >>>> but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and >>>> properly >>>> dispose of the e-mail. >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error
Hi Anastasia, thanks for the information.we are able to process the DTI data successfully. we had 24 subjects which crashed during either the -perp or -path stage. I viewed the alignments between the FA and the alignement segmentations (flirt and bbr alignments), which ever alignment is better. I modify the dmrirc file to use that alignment and rerun trac-all , starting at the -prep stage all but 2 were successfuly processed with my method, that the dti tracts look good in freeview i didn't realign the registration using tkregister, because the anatomies are poor and lo res, making this realignment difficult thanks again! JOn - Original Message - From: "Anastasia Yendiki" To: "Jon Wieser" Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:16:16 PM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error We've generally seen better results with BBR, which is why it became the default setting. On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > HI Anastasia, > > I ran it again with the flirt registration and it finished ok. > We did not have a specific reason for running it both ways. we are using the > default setting for the dmrirc file. > do you recommend one method over the other? > > thanks again > Jon > > - Original Message - > From: "Anastasia Yendiki" > To: "Jon Wieser" > Cc: "freesurfer" > Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:07:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error > > > That's entirely up to you, and whether you had a specific reason for > running it both ways. > > If you want to fix the bbr registration manually, check the trac-all.log > file for a command at the end of bbregister, where it says "To check > results, run". > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: > >> Hi Anastasia, >> We used both flirt and bbr registration in the dmrirc file, the Aparc+seg >> I just showedd you was from the BBR resitration. I looked at the flirt >> registration. it looks OK. >> should I rerun tracula using only the flirt registration? >> Jon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" >> To: "Jon Wieser" >> Cc: "freesurfer" >> Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:00:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error >> >> >> So there's your culprit. You need to fix the intra-subject >> (diffusion-to-T1) registration. Did you use flirt or bbregister for that? >> >> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: >> >>> Hi Anastasia, >>> I looked at the dlabel/diff/Aparc+aseg overlayed on the >>> dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz >>> the alignemenst is way off (in freeview, in the coronal view, the aparc+seg >>> is rotated 45 degrees anti-clockwise), and parts of the FA map in the L >>> ILF area are missing. the original DTI is not missing data in these areas. >>> I have attached screenshots >>> Jon >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" >>> To: "Jon Wieser" >>> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 6:35:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error >>> >>> >>> Hi Jon - You need to look at the aparc+aseg after it has been mapped to >>> diffusion space. It's possible that it looks fine in its original space >>> but then maybe something goes wrong with the registration. So you should >>> look at the aparc+aseg and aparc+aseg_mask files from the tracula >>> dlabel/diff directory. These are in diffusion space and you can overlay >>> them on the FA map to see if there's anything strange in the ILF area. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> a.y >>> >>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: >>> >>>> Hi anastasia >>>> I looked at the brainmask and the aparc+aseg. I did see anything missing >>>> in the area of the left ILF. >>>> I have attached the files. can you take a look at them? >>>> Thanks >>>> JOn >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" >>>> To: "Jon Wieser" >>>> Cc: "freesurfer" >>>> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:15:23 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Jon - Have you checked the brain mask and aparc+aseg for this subject? >>>&g
Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error
Hi Jon - Glad to hear you could get around the registration issue. If the anatomical images are poor, then it makes sense that you'd encounter issues with bbregister, as bbregister relies on the surfaces that are derived exactly from those anatomical images. Best, a.y On Mon, 10 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: Hi Anastasia, thanks for the information.we are able to process the DTI data successfully. we had 24 subjects which crashed during either the -perp or -path stage. I viewed the alignments between the FA and the alignement segmentations (flirt and bbr alignments), which ever alignment is better. I modify the dmrirc file to use that alignment and rerun trac-all , starting at the -prep stage all but 2 were successfuly processed with my method, that the dti tracts look good in freeview i didn't realign the registration using tkregister, because the anatomies are poor and lo res, making this realignment difficult thanks again! JOn - Original Message - From: "Anastasia Yendiki" To: "Jon Wieser" Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:16:16 PM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error We've generally seen better results with BBR, which is why it became the default setting. On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: HI Anastasia, I ran it again with the flirt registration and it finished ok. We did not have a specific reason for running it both ways. we are using the default setting for the dmrirc file. do you recommend one method over the other? thanks again Jon - Original Message - From: "Anastasia Yendiki" To: "Jon Wieser" Cc: "freesurfer" Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:07:12 PM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error That's entirely up to you, and whether you had a specific reason for running it both ways. If you want to fix the bbr registration manually, check the trac-all.log file for a command at the end of bbregister, where it says "To check results, run". On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: Hi Anastasia, We used both flirt and bbr registration in the dmrirc file, the Aparc+seg I just showedd you was from the BBR resitration. I looked at the flirt registration. it looks OK. should I rerun tracula using only the flirt registration? Jon - Original Message - From: "Anastasia Yendiki" To: "Jon Wieser" Cc: "freesurfer" Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:00:25 AM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error So there's your culprit. You need to fix the intra-subject (diffusion-to-T1) registration. Did you use flirt or bbregister for that? On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: Hi Anastasia, I looked at the dlabel/diff/Aparc+aseg overlayed on the dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz the alignemenst is way off (in freeview, in the coronal view, the aparc+seg is rotated 45 degrees anti-clockwise), and parts of the FA map in the L ILF area are missing. the original DTI is not missing data in these areas. I have attached screenshots Jon - Original Message - From: "Anastasia Yendiki" To: "Jon Wieser" Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 6:35:12 PM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error Hi Jon - You need to look at the aparc+aseg after it has been mapped to diffusion space. It's possible that it looks fine in its original space but then maybe something goes wrong with the registration. So you should look at the aparc+aseg and aparc+aseg_mask files from the tracula dlabel/diff directory. These are in diffusion space and you can overlay them on the FA map to see if there's anything strange in the ILF area. Hope this helps, a.y On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: Hi anastasia I looked at the brainmask and the aparc+aseg. I did see anything missing in the area of the left ILF. I have attached the files. can you take a look at them? Thanks JOn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anastasia Yendiki" To: "Jon Wieser" Cc: "freesurfer" Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:15:23 PM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error Hi Jon - Have you checked the brain mask and aparc+aseg for this subject? Anything missing there that might affect the left ILF? a.y On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote: Dear freesurfer experts I'm getting the following error when runing trac-all -c dmrirc_single_subject -path Loading initial proposal SD's from /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1084/data/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5_std.txt Processing pathway 3 of 18... Initializing MCMC Segmentation fault Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 I have attached the trac-all.log and trac-all.error files I am ru
Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error
Hi Elijah - Since the error occurs in the CST, is any of the brainstem cut off for this subject? It's hard to tell from the screenshot, but the field of view seems a bit cropped inferiorly. Best, a.y On Thu, 5 May 2016, Elijah Mak wrote: > Dear Anastasia Yendiki, > I ran into a hitch while running trac-all -path and came across an identical > problem where there was a segmentation fault. I have attached my error and > log files. > > Loading initial proposal SD's from > /subject/dlabel/diff/rh.cst_AS_avg33_mni_bbr_cpts_6_std.txt > > Processing pathway 2 of 18... > > Initializing MCMC > > I have also checked the aparc+aseg and aparc+aseg_mask (overlaid on FA; > screenshot attached) as you have suggested, but I can't seem to find anything > that would have compromised the -path process. > > What else could have gone wrong? trac-all -path works for other subjects. > > Thanks for your help. > > Best Wishes, > Elijah > > > > ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.