Re: [Freesurfer] output of mris_anatomical_stats

2011-02-16 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Marco, no, there's not a way to get 95% conf intervals out of it. sorry,
doug

Marco Loggia, PhD wrote:
> Thanks Bruce for your prompt reply.
>
> The surfaces I feed to mris_anatomical_stats are actually not thickness
> data, but quantitative CBF maps, calculated using arterial spin labeling. 
>
> I am trying to extract, for each subject, the average CBF value across the
> whole cortical surface. Considering this, the dispersion should be the SD of
> the CBF across all vertices, right?
>  
> Is it not possible to obtain 95% C.I. instead of the SD?
>
> Marco
>
> _ 
>  
> Marco L. Loggia, PhD 
> Postdoctoral Fellow, Mass General Hospital & Brigham and Women's Hospital 
> Harvard Medical School 
>  
> CNY Building 120, suite 101E 
> Charlestown, Massachusetts 02129 
> Phone: (617) 643-7267 
> Fax: (617) 643-7340 ma...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:52 AM
> To: Marco Loggia, PhD
> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] output of mris_anatomical_stats
>
> Hi Marco
>
> that is the spatial standard deviation, which probably isn't a very
> interesting #. Typically the more interesting variance is cross subject.
>
> cheers
> Bruce
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011, Marco
> Loggia, PhD wrote:
>
>   
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>>
>> In mris_anatomical_stats, the "average cortical thickness" value comes 
>> with a measure of dispersion around the mean. Is this Standard 
>> Deviation? If so, is there a way to plot the 95% confidence intervals
>> 
> instead?
>   
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Marco
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _
>>
>>
>>
>> Marco L. Loggia, PhD
>>
>> Postdoctoral Fellow, Mass General Hospital & Brigham and Women's 
>> Hospital
>>
>> Harvard Medical School
>>
>>
>>
>> CNY Building 120, suite 101E
>>
>> Charlestown, Massachusetts 02129
>>
>> Phone: (617) 643-7267
>>
>> Fax: (617) 643-7340 ma...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>
>>
>> 
>
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Re: [Freesurfer] output of mris_anatomical_stats

2011-02-16 Thread Marco Loggia, PhD
Thanks Bruce for your prompt reply.

The surfaces I feed to mris_anatomical_stats are actually not thickness
data, but quantitative CBF maps, calculated using arterial spin labeling. 

I am trying to extract, for each subject, the average CBF value across the
whole cortical surface. Considering this, the dispersion should be the SD of
the CBF across all vertices, right?
 
Is it not possible to obtain 95% C.I. instead of the SD?

Marco

_ 
 
Marco L. Loggia, PhD 
Postdoctoral Fellow, Mass General Hospital & Brigham and Women's Hospital 
Harvard Medical School 
 
CNY Building 120, suite 101E 
Charlestown, Massachusetts 02129 
Phone: (617) 643-7267 
Fax: (617) 643-7340 ma...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 


-Original Message-
From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:52 AM
To: Marco Loggia, PhD
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] output of mris_anatomical_stats

Hi Marco

that is the spatial standard deviation, which probably isn't a very
interesting #. Typically the more interesting variance is cross subject.

cheers
Bruce


On Wed, 16 Feb 2011, Marco
Loggia, PhD wrote:

> Dear all,
>
>
>
> In mris_anatomical_stats, the "average cortical thickness" value comes 
> with a measure of dispersion around the mean. Is this Standard 
> Deviation? If so, is there a way to plot the 95% confidence intervals
instead?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marco
>
>
>
>
> _
>
>
>
> Marco L. Loggia, PhD
>
> Postdoctoral Fellow, Mass General Hospital & Brigham and Women's 
> Hospital
>
> Harvard Medical School
>
>
>
> CNY Building 120, suite 101E
>
> Charlestown, Massachusetts 02129
>
> Phone: (617) 643-7267
>
> Fax: (617) 643-7340 ma...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>
>



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Re: [Freesurfer] output of mris_anatomical_stats

2011-02-16 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Marco

that is the spatial standard deviation, which probably isn't a very 
interesting #. Typically the more interesting variance is cross subject.

cheers
Bruce


On Wed, 16 Feb 2011, Marco 
Loggia, PhD wrote:

> Dear all,
>
>
>
> In mris_anatomical_stats, the "average cortical thickness" value comes with
> a measure of dispersion around the mean. Is this Standard Deviation? If so,
> is there a way to plot the 95% confidence intervals instead?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marco
>
>
>
>
> _
>
>
>
> Marco L. Loggia, PhD
>
> Postdoctoral Fellow, Mass General Hospital & Brigham and Women's Hospital
>
> Harvard Medical School
>
>
>
> CNY Building 120, suite 101E
>
> Charlestown, Massachusetts 02129
>
> Phone: (617) 643-7267
>
> Fax: (617) 643-7340 ma...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>
>
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