Re: [Freeswitch-users] Different files (?)
I would highly recommend you use the snapshot or svn checkout because we are close to 1.0.4 and it looks like the symlink wasn't updated for 1.0.3 we'll get that fixed. /b On Mar 23, 2009, at 5:24 PM, henkoegema wrote: > 1. freeswitch-1.0.3.tar.gz 19-Feb-2009 00:34 > 26M > 2. freeswitch-1.0.latest.tar.gz 24-Jul-2008 12:0022M > 3. freeswitch-snapshot.tar.gz 23-Mar-2009 03:0249M ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] Different files (?)
BTW, you also recommend SVN trunk for production servers? IMHO, should be a stable release for this purpose. On 3/23/09, Brian West wrote: > I would highly recommend you use the snapshot or svn checkout because > we are close to 1.0.4 and it looks like the symlink wasn't updated for > 1.0.3 we'll get that fixed. > > /b > > On Mar 23, 2009, at 5:24 PM, henkoegema wrote: > >> 1. freeswitch-1.0.3.tar.gz 19-Feb-2009 00:34 >>26M >> 2. freeswitch-1.0.latest.tar.gz 24-Jul-2008 12:0022M >> 3. freeswitch-snapshot.tar.gz23-Mar-2009 03:0249M > > > ___ > Freeswitch-users mailing list > Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users > http://www.freeswitch.org > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] Different files (?)
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Pablo Hernan Saro wrote: > BTW, you also recommend SVN trunk for production servers? > IMHO, should be a stable release for this purpose. FreeSWITCH is one of those unusual projects where the SVN trunk is generally more stable than the tagged releases. -MC ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] Different files (?)
Thats up to you... I use SVN Trunk when I know things are good but thats my job... thats why I work hard on QA for the project. We did have some regressions over the past few days that we did finally narrow down and fix over the weekend... and yes we work pretty much 24/7 :) We are trying to get SVN to the point so we can release 1.0.4 and it has MANY fixes over 1.0.3. /b On Mar 23, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Pablo Hernan Saro wrote: > BTW, you also recommend SVN trunk for production servers? > IMHO, should be a stable release for this purpose. > ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] Different files (?)
I run SVN on several production servers... "Stable Releases" are just that some point in the code where the maintainers felt it was stable enuff to release on that given day... With FreeSwitch however it never fails, a big bug is found and fixed w/in 2 days of that "stable release" so its not really that stable at all... Until we get more people testing and actually reporting bugs on RCs I doubt this well ever change... > From: Pablo Hernan Saro > Reply-To: > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:19:43 -0300 > To: > Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Different files (?) > > BTW, you also recommend SVN trunk for production servers? > IMHO, should be a stable release for this purpose. > > > > On 3/23/09, Brian West wrote: >> I would highly recommend you use the snapshot or svn checkout because >> we are close to 1.0.4 and it looks like the symlink wasn't updated for >> 1.0.3 we'll get that fixed. >> >> /b >> >> On Mar 23, 2009, at 5:24 PM, henkoegema wrote: >> >>> 1. freeswitch-1.0.3.tar.gz 19-Feb-2009 00:34 >>> 26M >>> 2. freeswitch-1.0.latest.tar.gz 24-Jul-2008 12:00 22M >>> 3. freeswitch-snapshot.tar.gz23-Mar-2009 03:02 49M >> >> >> ___ >> Freeswitch-users mailing list >> Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users >> UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users >> http://www.freeswitch.org >> > > -- > Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com > > ___ > Freeswitch-users mailing list > Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users > http://www.freeswitch.org ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] Different files (?)
Well put! /b On Mar 23, 2009, at 6:31 PM, Ken Rice wrote: > > Until we get more people testing and actually reporting bugs on RCs > I doubt > this well ever change... ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] Different files (?)
First of all, thanks for your answers. You guys are awesome and FS rocks. Don't take it the wrong way... My custom is to install production systems using stable versions and apply the corresponding security patches as soon as they are released. But I don't change software versions until I really need to do it (for example when I need a new functionality). I've installed production systems using FS SVN trunk, but it changes every day. So, to keep it up to date I have to re-compile it every week at least. I was wondering if there is a version you can affirm has no major bugs. If not, there is no problem with that... Just wondering... Pablo On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Brian West wrote: > Well put! > > /b > > On Mar 23, 2009, at 6:31 PM, Ken Rice wrote: > >> >> Until we get more people testing and actually reporting bugs on RCs >> I doubt >> this well ever change... > > > ___ > Freeswitch-users mailing list > Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users > http://www.freeswitch.org > ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] Different files (?)
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Pablo Hernan Saro wrote: > First of all, thanks for your answers. You guys are awesome and FS > rocks. Don't take it the wrong way... No offense taken. > My custom is to install production systems using stable versions and > apply the corresponding security patches as soon as they are released. > But I don't change software versions until I really need to do it (for > example when I need a new functionality). Nothing wrong with this custom. > I've installed production systems using FS SVN trunk, but it changes > every day. So, to keep it up to date I have to re-compile it every > week at least. Understood. Production systems have their own issues. One custom that is common is to have a production system and a "sandbox" system. You could have your sandbox system to a "make current" every night and you could run simple tests via cron to see if anything important to you is somehow broken. If all is well then you know that you can upgrade your production system. > I was wondering if there is a version you can affirm has no major > bugs. If not, there is no problem with that... Just wondering... This is a tough one. It may be a minor bug to me but it could be a major bug to you. In other words this is almost an impossible question to answer. This much I can say: the FS devs make lots of changes each day but they don't leave the SVN trunk in an unstable state at any point, especially at the end of the day. (GMT -6 time zone.) The bottom line is still the same: FreeSWITCH is one of those rare software projects where the SVN trunk is almost always more stable and less buggy than the most recent "stable" release. My recommendation to you is to find the update schedule that works best for you, be it daily, weekly or some other period. -MC ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] Different files (?)
Hi Michael, All I have to say is thank you very much. Thanks for this explanation, that's what I was looking for. So, I will figure out which is the most convenient update schedule for me and I will build a sandbox for this exclusive purpose. Not only FS rocks, but the community too. Kudos Pablo On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Michael Collins wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Pablo Hernan Saro > wrote: >> First of all, thanks for your answers. You guys are awesome and FS >> rocks. Don't take it the wrong way... > > No offense taken. > >> My custom is to install production systems using stable versions and >> apply the corresponding security patches as soon as they are released. >> But I don't change software versions until I really need to do it (for >> example when I need a new functionality). > > Nothing wrong with this custom. > >> I've installed production systems using FS SVN trunk, but it changes >> every day. So, to keep it up to date I have to re-compile it every >> week at least. > > Understood. Production systems have their own issues. One custom that > is common is to have a production system and a "sandbox" system. You > could have your sandbox system to a "make current" every night and you > could run simple tests via cron to see if anything important to you is > somehow broken. If all is well then you know that you can upgrade your > production system. > >> I was wondering if there is a version you can affirm has no major >> bugs. If not, there is no problem with that... Just wondering... > > This is a tough one. It may be a minor bug to me but it could be a > major bug to you. In other words this is almost an impossible question > to answer. This much I can say: the FS devs make lots of changes each > day but they don't leave the SVN trunk in an unstable state at any > point, especially at the end of the day. (GMT -6 time zone.) > > The bottom line is still the same: FreeSWITCH is one of those rare > software projects where the SVN trunk is almost always more stable and > less buggy than the most recent "stable" release. My recommendation to > you is to find the update schedule that works best for you, be it > daily, weekly or some other period. > > -MC > > ___ > Freeswitch-users mailing list > Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users > http://www.freeswitch.org > ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org