Re: [ft-devel] ttfautohint: How to install

2011-06-18 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 June 2011 04:42, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote:

 Please post a URL
 where I can download the Ubuntu font you've used.

http://font.ubuntu.com

 Of note is that at larger sizes (20px - 30px) the rendering breaks up
 on curves. Is it possible that the autohinter is not yet set to
 instruct those larger sizes?

 What do you mean with `breaks up'?

British sland for 'does not work well' :-)

 Please give more details what
 exactly you think is bad.  The hinting range is set to 8ppem-1000ppem,
 BTW, so these sizes are covered.

The original 'o' in Ubuntu appears more circular - more symmetrical in
both x and y directions - but the autohinted 'o' appears 'egg' shaped
with x symmetry but the top is thinner than the bottom.

 Overall it's looking good to me. There are specific issues at
 certain sizes, e.g uppercase bowls are flattening too abruptly at
 the cap-height, see 'O' at 15, 19, 21px, but i'm assuming these
 things can be tweaked away.

 Yes, this is what I've noted too.  I'll look into it.

Great!

-- 
Cheers
Dave

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Re: [ft-devel] ttfautohint: How to install

2011-06-18 Thread vernon adams
I have added detailed shots to http://code.newtypography.co.uk/?p=898

At 400% magnification the difference does not look so great, but at 100% the 
difference in rendering is noticeable. I'll leave hinting interpreation to the 
experts, but to my eyes the vertical extremes of curves are not being flattened 
quite enough, thus creating extra sub-pixels (see the 400x magnifications).  
This seems to be the opposite of what is happening at other px sizes where the 
vertical extremes of curves tend to get overflattened, e.g. the 'O' at 15, 19, 
21px.

-vern



On 18 Jun 2011, at 04:42, Werner LEMBERG wrote:

 Of note is that at larger sizes (20px - 30px) the rendering breaks up
 on curves. Is it possible that the autohinter is not yet set to
 instruct those larger sizes?
 
 What do you mean with `breaks up'?  Please give more details what
 exactly you think is bad.  The hinting range is set to 8ppem-1000ppem,
 BTW, so these sizes are covered.

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Re: [ft-devel] ttfautohint: Milestone reached!

2011-06-18 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 06/17/11 23:53, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
 If I understand you correctly, there currently isn't a possibility to
 get such info from HarfBuzz easily (if at all)?

No, currently there isn't.

behdad

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