On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:35 pm, Evan Hisey wrote:

> Geert-
>   Oops, sorry for the typo. Good point baout teh more and more common
> automounting setup of the newer Linux distros. I still use Slackware,
> so had not really thought about that.
>
> Evan
>
> On 7/28/05, Geert Decorte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This link in the wiki is related to this discussion
> >
> > http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/MovieUsage
> >
> > I believe the point is due to distributions which have automount working
> > by default for the CD/DVD device.
> >
> > In my case I had replace it by submount. So disabling any mounting of the
> > DVD/CD should work fine. At least I'm gonna try that.
> > The only way were submount should be effective: you use the computer for
> > multiple purposes (Desktop).
> > So somewhere in the WIKI there should be a statement to drop automounting
> > systems for dvd/cd in order to avoid possible issues. Or is there a way
> > to disable this default behaviour in freevo? Most linux distributions
> > will include (actually they do) more and more auto mounting systems.
> >
> > BTW Evan: Greet is a christian name for female. My name is Geert.
> >
> >
> > Geert
> >
> > > All I know is that if I have a disc mounted then start and stop freevo
> > > it is no longer mounted.  Freevo must have some internal mounting
> > > already built in because when I put in a CD or DVD it automatically
> > > "mounts" it (I don't know if it is officially mounted or if it's just
> > > some internal trickery) and when I press the eject button on the drive
> > > itself it is unmounted and ejected automatically.
> > >
> > > I think the real problem that should be addressed is:
> > > If this is not working for you without supermount/submount then what
> > > is wrong with the freevo configuration you have as it SHOULD work like
> > > you want it to WITHOUT external automounting facilities.
> > >
> > > 2005/7/28, Evan Hisey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >> Greet-
> > >>   I would say, preformance issue are the big thing. Freevo has not
> > >> need to have any disc's mounted to play and the eject buttons work
> > >> fine on my drives. As understand it Freevo handles that part in the
> > >> background. Running a second system to do the same thing, is going ot
> > >> add alot of undeeded over head with the potential of race or confilcts
> > >> between the two systems. Lastly it just makes installing freevo that
> > >> much harder
> > >>
> > >> Evan.
> > >>
> > >> On 7/27/05, Geert Decorte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > Evan,
> > >> >
> > >> > Could you be more specific?
> > >> > I don't see why you find this a bad idea.
> > >> >
> > >> > > Greet-
> > >> > >   I think using something like submount/supermount is just a bad
> > >>
> > >> idea
> > >>
> > >> > > in this case. Freevo handles VCD/CD/DVD just fine without any kind
> > >>
> > >> of
> > >>
> > >> > > mounting madness outside of freevo.
> > >> >
> > >> > I added submount to make my freevobox pass the housewife :) test.
> > >> > Normal users will push the eject button. Like they use to do with CD
> > >> > players. They expect the devices behave like this. Intuitive
> > >>
> > >> behaviour.
> > >>
> > >> > Creating a application where the user has to read a phone-book size
> > >>
> > >> manual
> > >>
> > >> > full of exceptions doesn't make much sense to me.
> > >> > Mounted CD's needs to be umounted first before ejecting.
> > >> >
> > >> > Anyway, thnx to submount CD's get ejected using the eject button
> > >>
> > >> instead
> > >>
> > >> > of issuing the eject command from the keyboard/remote control.
> > >> > adding
> > >>
> > >> a
> > >>
> > >> > new CD to the tray gets automagicly detected and applied into
> > >> > freevo. So far I didn't see any problem with it. Perhaps this could
> > >> > raise performance issue with slower processors?
> > >> > Mandriva users using freevo should already have this feature thanks
> > >> > to supermount.
> > >> >
> > >> > Geert
> > >> >
> > >> > > Evan
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On 7/26/05, Geert Decorte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > >> I had covered this issue lately in the WIKI.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Either you install submount or supermount.
> > >> > >> The mandrake distribution comes default with supermount
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/TipsAndTricks#head-1d05
> > >> > >>cdb982531dee65b0f3d20548b880722069ae
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Submount needs only a additional kernel module and some
> > >> > >> experiments
> > >>
> > >> with
> > >>
> > >> > >> parameters in /etc/fstab
> > >> > >> Supermount needs a patched kernel
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> HTH
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Geert
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:44 am, Jake Briggs wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > you dont need to mount a dvd to play it.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > eject can be used with EJECT mapped to a button on the remote,
> > >> > >> > or
> > >>
> > >> "."
> > >>
> > >> > >> on
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > your
> > >> > >> > keyboard.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > I dont have supermount or anything on any of my freevo boxes.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Travis.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> WiSHiE wrote:
> > >> > >> >> >On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:29 am, Jake Briggs wrote:
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >you press "eject" on your remote(or keyboard . ), take the
> > >> > >> >> > DVD
> > >>
> > >> out,
> > >>
> > >> > >> and
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> >> > put a new one in.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> So your saying that freevo will umount the dvd, and dosent use
> > >> > >> >> supermount?  Because that would be handy :)
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >You do not need to exit freevo.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Last time I attempted to watch 2 dvds (actually, the only time
> > >> > >> >> I
> > >>
> > >> have
> > >>
> > >> > >> >> attempted this) the eject button (On the drive itself) wouldnt
> > >>
> > >> work
> > >>
> > >> > >> as I
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> >> expected, and I have neglected to map a button on my remote to
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> "eject".
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> >> I put the drive in about three months after I set freevo up
> > >>
> > >> initially
> > >>
> > >> > >> >> you see.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >Wouldnt be much of a home theatre setup if you had to turn it
> > >>
> > >> off to
> > >>
> > >> > >> >> watch
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >another movie now, would it ? :)
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Haha true :)
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Jake
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >>Hi all
> > >> > >> >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >>How does one change a dvd when running freevo? For example,
> > >> > >> >> >> I
> > >>
> > >> just
> > >>
> > >> > >> >> >>watched a movie, and I want to watch another. Do i have to
> > >>
> > >> exit
> > >>
> > >> > >> >> freevo,
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >>umount the dvd, eject the dvd, then insert the new one, then
> > >>
> > >> run
> > >>
> > >> > >> >> freevo
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >>again? Or can freevo do this sort of thing automatically
> > >>
> > >> (well,
> > >>
> > >> > >> apart
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> >> >>from the 'insert a new one' part :) ).
> > >> > >> >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >>I was just going to configure the supermount stuff last
> > >> > >> >> >> night,
> > >>
> > >> but
> > >>
> > >> > >> >> then
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >>I thought I had better ask, maybe freevo has some issues
> > >> > >> >> >> when
> > >>
> > >> using
> > >>
> > >> > >> >> >>supermount ?
> > >> > >> >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >>Jake
> > >> > >> >
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I use debian, and it doesnt come with automount as standard..

Freevo takes care of all the mounting/unmounting of CD/DVD anyway, so i dont 
see why automount is needed..

Travis.


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