[Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hi, I have no idea how many people still read this list, how many people still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use 2.0 from git (I guess that is only me). I failed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a complete rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times. My fault, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too late to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is completely busy with his job. I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm not sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it works for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I have a BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time to code it. Besides that, XBMC has a much bigger community, UPnP is enough for many people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP + TV sometimes) and new development such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo's usefulness even further. I will continue to use Freevo 2, I may even write an Android client for it (after learning Python with Freevo which was useful for getting my current job, hacking Android is a good next step), but I see no real future for Freevo without a live community and more people hacking code. If someone contributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide it. Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue and so will the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue to be valid. Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun. Regards, Dischi -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
This is a sad day :( I used freevo for years but started using my TVs inbuilt dlna client when my last htpc died 3 years ago. It was a threadbare experience - but at least it didn't try to be too clever. I recently got a raspberry pi for xbmc, but I do miss freevo. It had the perfect mix of simplicity and features, my TVs dlna client is utterly braindead and xbmc tries to be too clever. Thanks for all your hard work Dirk! Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: Hi, I have no idea how many people still read this list, how many people still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use 2.0 from git (I guess that is only me). I failed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a complete rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times. My fault, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too late to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is completely busy with his job. I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm not sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it works for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I have a BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time to code it. Besides that, XBMC has a much bigger community, UPnP is enough for many people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP + TV sometimes) and new development such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo's usefulness even further. I will continue to use Freevo 2, I may even write an Android client for it (after learning Python with Freevo which was useful for getting my current job, hacking Android is a good next step), but I see no real future for Freevo without a live community and more people hacking code. If someone contributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide it. Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue and so will the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue to be valid. Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun. Regards, Dischi -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Jake-- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
A sad day indeed! Quite a few years ago I tried to get Freevo running on a Fujitsu HTPC but, no matter how I tried, I just couldn't get a signal out of the SCART socket - something quite basic one would have thought. Loads of people on the web with the same problem but no solution. So I shelved the project until, ironically, I got a Smart TV with a new-fangled HDMI connection and I'm now using REL-1_9_2b2. I did consider moving to version 2 but, quite frankly, I've invested too many years of my life in getting Freevo working at all and, more importantly, working the way I want it. Not only do I think it looks pretty cool (is it still cool to say 'cool'), but so does my wife and that's saying something. Sure I tried XBMC along the way but I don't like its look and feel. Although I do admit to ripping some code from it to create an ITV Player (I'm in the UK) for Freevo. Also, I created several other TV 'catch-up' players from scratch. I can also watch my security camera via Freevo and it's integrated with my Asterisk PBX. In fact, just this minute I've managed to get it to play my voice messages. As an old assembler programmer, I've taught myself some basic Python and thoroughly enjoyed, and will continue to enjoy, working with the Freevo infrastructure. I suppose I'd better take some backups. Very many thanks to all involved Freevo and best wishes for the future. Sob. Sob. John Percival. Jake j...@jakebriggs.com wrote:This is a sad day :( I used freevo for years but started using my TVs inbuilt dlna client when my last htpc died 3 years ago. It was a threadbare experience - but at least it didn't try to be too clever. I recently got a raspberry pi for xbmc, but I do miss freevo. It had the perfect mix of simplicity and features, my TVs dlna client is utterly braindead and xbmc tries to be too clever. Thanks for all your hard work Dirk! Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote:Hi, I have no idea how many people still read this list, how many people still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use 2.0 from git (I guess that is only me). I failed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a complete rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times. My fault, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too late to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is completely busy with his job. I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm not sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it works for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I have a BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time to code it. Besides that, XBMC has a much biggercommunity, UPnP is enough for many people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP + TV sometimes) and new development such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo's usefulness even further. I will continue to use Freevo 2, I may even write an Android client for it (after learning Python with Freevo which was useful for getting my current job, hacking Android is a good next step), but I see no real future for Freevo without a live community and more people hacking code. If someone contributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide it. Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue andso will the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue to be valid. Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun. Regards, Dischi CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Jake-- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:31:59 +1300 Jake j...@jakebriggs.com wrote: This is a sad day :( I used freevo for years but started using my TVs inbuilt dlna client when my last htpc died 3 years ago. It was a threadbare experience - but at least it didn't try to be too clever. I recently got a raspberry pi for xbmc, but I do miss freevo. It had the perfect mix of simplicity and features, my TVs dlna client is utterly braindead and xbmc tries to be too clever. Thanks for all your hard work Dirk! I'll continue with Freevo 1.x on my tv box. It's been reliable - more reliable than the hardware, which is now V4. The Freevo 1.x wiki was last archived by archive.org in May http://web.archive.org/web/20130527124511/http://doc.freevo.org/ and the 'recent changes' page says last change in Feb, so that is still available. Thanks Dischi, Jason, and everyone else. -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hi, I used Freevo 1.x for years as HTPC only letting it go a year or two ago as I didn't anymore need any multimedia center. As it worked great, I had no reason to upgrade to anything else including Freevo 2. Simply loved the things it could do. It could play _any_ music files, even midi to hardware midi synthesizers, it could also play _any_ standard definition video file with great RGB picture quality to CRT TV using matrox hardware. I don't think there is anything else out there that can do these things. In fact even with modern hardware it has the same strengths so for anyone requiring some special functionality Freevo is still the way to go. Anyway, about the server shutdown: - Will the freevo web page (http://freevo.sourceforge.net/index.php) still remain? If not, I can host the web page BUT this would be on a home server that can easily have a day or two downtime now and then and very rarely even longer. However, the server has remained up for I guess 10 years now and I plan on keeping it up for years to come. I can also host a version of the wiki that is non-editable. If you don't get better offers then please contact me Dirk and we will set it up. -- Tuomas Tonteri On 20.01.2014 20:38, Dirk Meyer wrote: Hi, I have no idea how many people still read this list, how many people still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use 2.0 from git (I guess that is only me). I failed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a complete rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times. My fault, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too late to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is completely busy with his job. I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm not sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it works for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I have a BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time to code it. Besides that, XBMC has a much bigger community, UPnP is enough for many people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP + TV sometimes) and new development such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo's usefulness even further. I will continue to use Freevo 2, I may even write an Android client for it (after learning Python with Freevo which was useful for getting my current job, hacking Android is a good next step), but I see no real future for Freevo without a live community and more people hacking code. If someone contributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide it. Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue and so will the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue to be valid. Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun. Regards, Dischi -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
