Re: [Freevo-users] Re: Oh deary me!

2006-04-20 Thread Karl Lattimer

> Give the people porn, and they will follow
> 
> Regards,
> Wander.


I'm gonna quote you on that ;)

Seems the same in the mobile content market, all the providers seem to
think people want to watch TV on their mobiles... The fact of the matter
is they want porn clips they can laugh at with their friends, the only
currently thriving mobile content providers are porn providers.

People love sex, which is hard-ly surprising ;)

K,




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Re: [Freevo-users] Re: Oh deary me!

2006-04-20 Thread Wander Winkelhorst
On 4/19/06, Dirk Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/04/19/philips_enforced_ads_patent/
> >
> > Can this be avoided if it comes into force in future freevo releases, we
> > could use a slogan like "take back your channel hopping"
>
> What a stupid feature: Hey, buy my box, it will prevent you from doing
> what you want. Until using this will be enforced by law or something,
> people will never buy such a box.

Hell yeah they will.

Content providers will *LOVE* this idea and it will go about it
something like this:
- Adult content provider sells free porn access, but you will have to
use this box, for both decryption and the no-skip-ads feature.
- After that, some movie channel tries the same
- Maybe a cable provider could do the same (Watch TV for free, but watch ads)
- A cable provider offers this box and a "small fee for premium content"
- All cable providers switch to this model
- It because mandatory by law

OK, so maybe the last couple probably won't happen, but the first few
do seem plausible.

Give the people porn, and they will follow

Regards,
Wander.

>
>
> Dischi
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Re: [Freevo-users] Re: Oh deary me!

2006-04-19 Thread The Hog
> > Jason Tackaberry wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 11:52 +0100, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> >>> http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/04/19/philips_enforced_ads_patent/
> >>>
> >>> Can this be avoided if it comes into force in future freevo releases,
we
> >>> could use a slogan like "take back your channel hopping"

1. Let's make things better!
2. Sense and Simplicity!

Guess they need to re-state their imago...

3. Control and Conquer!



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[Freevo-users] Re: Oh deary me!

2006-04-19 Thread Dirk Meyer
Lucian Muresan wrote:
> Jason Tackaberry wrote:
>> On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 11:52 +0100, Karl Lattimer wrote:
>>> http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/04/19/philips_enforced_ads_patent/
>>>
>>> Can this be avoided if it comes into force in future freevo releases, we
>>> could use a slogan like "take back your channel hopping"
>> This is ludicrous:
>> "A viewer may either watch the advertisements or pay a fee
>> in
>> order to be able to change channels or fast forward when the
>> advertisements are being displayed," Philips' potential patent
>> states.
>> What's next?  They will require a network connection to your couch
>> they
>> they can automatically strap you in and pry your eyes open while the
>> commercials are playing?
>> Honestly, this is insulting.  And they know it:
>> Philips admits this might by "greatly resented by the
>> viewers"
>> "Greatly resented" is a crashing understatement.
>
> The sad truth is that consumers are stupid. There will be enough of
> them to buy that shit. 

Yes, the are stupid, but people talk

A: I can't seek while comercials with my new box
B: Still works for me
A: What do you have?
B: 
A: OK, thanks

> If I weren't right, there wouldn't have been already sold things
> like copy-protected audio-CDs (violating the Red Book once published
> by Philips & Sony),

Well, you want to listen to the music of a special artist, you have no
real choice (buy or don't). For a box you have more choices (the
different vendors). And the not-buy-idea works good for me the last
years (3 or 4 CDs in 3 years)

> region-protected

Some people are buying player where you can switch that off. But most
people don't buy outside the country, so they don't see the problem.

> and CSS-protected DVDs

CSS is a joke

> not to talk about upcoming HD-DVDs, BluRay-discs, TV sets and
> Monitors with HDCP interface, set-top-boxes with the same shitty
> interface which will allow *them* to switch off HD content when
> attempoting to record it, or what else.

If they switch of the content, even the stupid user will know. But if
they reduce the standard resolution, some people will never know they
don't have HD. See slashdot for details:

50% of HDTV Owners Don't Use HD
http://slashdot.org/articles/05/12/09/0647218.shtml

> If these fuckers with pockets always full of money which call
> themselves "freaks" and "early adopters" wouldn't buy all this shit
> from the entrtainment industry, these tehnologies never would have
> paid for them, the would have dropped them already.

Let us wait. What was the time when DVD became popular? Right, when
they became cheaper and decss was out. And I don't think it is only
one reason from these two.

And for Blue-Ray/HD-DVD. Do you think people will buy a new graphic
card and a new monitor to watch this? I don't think so. I think (hope)
this will fail (and they will blame the pirates again, but I don't
think people will believe them this time).

BTW: http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=1006

> It's like democracy, even if some of us don't like it, just because
> if others do, these evil things keep existing...

I still have hopes.

I could go on and on with this mail



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Re: [Freevo-users] Re: Oh deary me!

2006-04-19 Thread Karl Lattimer
> It's like 
> democracy, even if some of us don't like it, just because if others do, 
> these evil things keep existing...
> 
> 

"I find myself in the corner of the room, with my leather bound book
open scrawling "down with big brother" over and over, was I dreaming?

 -- Winston smith, George Orwell nineteen eighty four

On the subject of evil things, fluffy things which are aimed at
children, good wholesome fun, smiley faces and lovable characters. 

Is an industry of brainwashing and corporate programming in order to
ensure the shut up and shop mentality remains

Who'd of thought it eh! Disney are evil...

k,





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[Freevo-users] Re: Oh deary me!

2006-04-19 Thread Lucian Muresan

Jason Tackaberry wrote:

On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 11:52 +0100, Karl Lattimer wrote:

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/04/19/philips_enforced_ads_patent/

Can this be avoided if it comes into force in future freevo releases, we
could use a slogan like "take back your channel hopping"


This is ludicrous:

"A viewer may either watch the advertisements or pay a fee in
order to be able to change channels or fast forward when the
advertisements are being displayed," Philips' potential patent
states.

What's next?  They will require a network connection to your couch they
they can automatically strap you in and pry your eyes open while the
commercials are playing?

Honestly, this is insulting.  And they know it:

Philips admits this might by "greatly resented by the viewers"

"Greatly resented" is a crashing understatement.


The sad truth is that consumers are stupid. There will be enough of them 
to buy that shit. If I weren't right, there wouldn't have been already 
sold things like copy-protected audio-CDs (violating the Red Book once 
published by Philips & Sony), region-protected and CSS-protected DVDs, 
not to talk about upcoming HD-DVDs, BluRay-discs, TV sets and Monitors 
with HDCP interface, set-top-boxes with the same shitty interface which 
will allow *them* to switch off HD content when attempoting to record 
it, or what else. If these fuckers with pockets always full of money 
which call themselves "freaks" and "early adopters" wouldn't buy all 
this shit from the entrtainment industry, these tehnologies never would 
have paid for them, the would have dropped them already. It's like 
democracy, even if some of us don't like it, just because if others do, 
these evil things keep existing...



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[Freevo-users] Re: Oh deary me!

2006-04-19 Thread Dirk Meyer
Karl Lattimer wrote:
> http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/04/19/philips_enforced_ads_patent/
>
> Can this be avoided if it comes into force in future freevo releases, we
> could use a slogan like "take back your channel hopping"

What a stupid feature: Hey, buy my box, it will prevent you from doing
what you want. Until using this will be enforced by law or something,
people will never buy such a box.


Dischi

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