Re: [Freevo-users] What hardware to buy?

2003-10-06 Thread A Mennucc1
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 02:00:21PM -0400, Shane Crosby wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Pentium 4 2GHz
> 256MB RAM
 
> What are your suggestions for TV Card, Video Out card, DVD Drive, RS232 
> remote, and anything else I'll need?

I have created a very cheap freevo box
based on a Celeron 350MHz, with 256Mb ram

I use a cheap  ATI card (~45 euro) for TV out (composite, not S-Video)
but I am pretty happy with it (my TV is also low quality)

you need though to install XFree86 server 3.0 
(Debian fortunately has it in experimental)
and the Nvidia  propertary driver (the free one does not have 
3D acceleration and TV out) (and read the instruction for setting the
XF86config)

I can play games: tuxkart, tuxracer and even chromium are quite smooth

when I play DVD it skips some frames when the camera is panning or zooming:
the Nvidia package contains a library for XV motion conpensation,
but it seems that Xine does not use it; nontheless the quality is good 

the ATI card has a big plus that I did not ever see in other cards:
it enables TV-out at boot, so that you can see everything on TV;
my freevo box is below my TV , and I manage it using only the TV
(not computer monitor attached): BIOS, O.S. ... everything is on TV.
And the text on the TV-out is quite readable.
Only catch: I cannot use the kernel framebuffer for displaying fancy
text resolutions and fonts: only standard vga works.

no tv card... sorry (it would cost more than all the rest together!)

my DVD is an LG: it is noisy at full speed, but quite silent when
freevo runs it slower


> Also, will 256MB be enough memory?

for me, it is; and I do not use swap

> My ideal setup will be a machine with remote control, DVD playback support 
> and a huge Mp3 collection mounted over samba.

samba?

a.

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RE: [Freevo-users] What hardware to buy?

2003-09-29 Thread Gray, Tim
I use a pentium III 866 with 128 meg of ram.
1 20 gig drive and 1 120 gig drive (smaller drive is os/apps)
nvidia geforce 2 with TV out
ATI tv Wonder VE (but any bt878 based tv card will work)
all of this in a rack mount ATX case (I have all my AV equipment
rackmounted)
CDrom drive... el-cheapo version

this allows me to record as divx, use the freevo box as my house's  media
server for mp3's and shows recorded. PLUS as my main CD ripper in the home.

works great, it makes my freevo owning friends jealous.  you CANT watch a
recorded video while it is recording but that really is not an issue, and
watching tv while recording is as simple as using the tv+cable box instead
of using freevo to watch tv.

basically I wanted a digital VCR, and freevo gave it to me.  I also am sure
there is enough processing power in there to serve my personal webpages and
run misterhouse for home automation at the same time (although increasing
ram would be a good idea at that point.)

I use a custom-installed version of slackware for the OS install and I do
NOT run any window manager (but i do run X for now... I think that the
nvidia can run TV out in framebuffer without anything special...)


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Re: [Freevo-users] What hardware to buy?

2003-09-27 Thread Niklas Brunlid
> > >Also, will 256MB be enough memory?
> >
> > I think so, I have an old K6-2 350 Mhz with 192 MB :-( but it's OK for
> > audio and photos and the Freevo menu's work OK (I have neither DVD nor
> > TV tuner working yet)
>
> I used Freevo on a Celeron 400 with 256mb of RAM and it was pretty
> good, including TV encoding. I've moved to a faster machine, but it's
> fine to work with any amount of RAM, though Python will probably gain
> some speed from more.

When we built a Freevo box for our corridor (swedish dorm, or whatever
they're called) we rounded up some hardware and ended up with a Celeron
433MHz on 32Mb (!) of RAM. Played everything I tried, up to high-bitrate
xvid files. The same box actually plays DVDs, although de-interlacing is
not an option. Or recording. =)


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Re: [Freevo-users] What hardware to buy?

2003-09-27 Thread Aubin Paul
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 02:56:06AM +, Jorn A Hansen wrote:
> With your CPU I don't think you will need a card with MPEG encoding like 
> the PVR250. Get something with good driver support (a bt8x8 card 
> supported by the bttv drivers)

The advantage of the new PVR350 cards is both excellent hardware
encoding with 0% CPU, and they have a framebuffer output driver so you
can use it for input and output though I've never tested it.

I have a Athlon 2000XP, and the hardware encoding is still worth it,
especially since it takes all the headache out of audio
synchronization and background recording.

> I got an ATI All In Wonder Radeon that I got for approx. 50$. I heard 
> some rumours that at least some time ago ATI had better TV out quality 
> than NVidia. A lot of the Freevo developers have Matrox G400 which 
> therefore is well supported but more expensive than my card at least 
> where I live.

The G400 is great, I would look into the PVR350 if I was in the market
today, since it does provide hardware decoding of MPEG2, TV Output and
as far as I know, a complete framebuffer, unlike the DXR3 which
involves encoding the Freevo interface into mpeg.

> >DVD Drive, 

Anything will do.

> >RS232 remote, 
> 
> You can either build your own receiver for most standard remotes or buy 
> a TV Card with one included. It should be supported by LIRC.  See 
> http://freevo.sourceforge.net/hardware.html which also contains bits of 
> hints about the other parts.

The IRMAN is dead simple to get going if you're not comfortable with
electronics.

> >and anything else I'll need?
> Soundcard? Or maybe your on-board is sufficient?

If you're playing DVDs, you need to get some sort of card with optical
out... if your onboard has it, make sure it's supported.

> >Also, will 256MB be enough memory? 
> 
> I think so, I have an old K6-2 350 Mhz with 192 MB :-( but it's OK for 
> audio and photos and the Freevo menu's work OK (I have neither DVD nor 
> TV tuner working yet)

I used Freevo on a Celeron 400 with 256mb of RAM and it was pretty
good, including TV encoding. I've moved to a faster machine, but it's
fine to work with any amount of RAM, though Python will probably gain
some speed from more.



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Re: [Freevo-users] What hardware to buy?

2003-09-26 Thread Jorn A Hansen
Shane Crosby wrote:

Pentium 4 2GHz
256MB RAM
That's it.  So this machine is essentially an empty canvas for me to 
work with.  What I would like to do is build the best possible freevo 
for the lowest possible price. 
Generally take a look at the Supported Hardware section on 
http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/DocumentationPage

What are your suggestions for TV Card,
With your CPU I don't think you will need a card with MPEG encoding like 
the PVR250. Get something with good driver support (a bt8x8 card 
supported by the bttv drivers)

Video Out card, 
I got an ATI All In Wonder Radeon that I got for approx. 50$. I heard 
some rumours that at least some time ago ATI had better TV out quality 
than NVidia. A lot of the Freevo developers have Matrox G400 which 
therefore is well supported but more expensive than my card at least 
where I live.

DVD Drive, 
?

RS232 remote, 
You can either build your own receiver for most standard remotes or buy 
a TV Card with one included. It should be supported by LIRC.  See 
http://freevo.sourceforge.net/hardware.html which also contains bits of 
hints about the other parts.

and anything else I'll need?
Soundcard? Or maybe your on-board is sufficient?

Also, will 256MB be enough memory? 
I think so, I have an old K6-2 350 Mhz with 192 MB :-( but it's OK for 
audio and photos and the Freevo menu's work OK (I have neither DVD nor 
TV tuner working yet)



My ideal setup will be a machine with remote control, DVD playback 
support and a huge Mp3 collection mounted over samba.

Thanks in advance!  I'm looking forward to building this as soon as I 
can afford the parts. 
You can always start by adding the part you need the most and then add 
stuff along the way - that's my approach :-)

JornH



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Re: [Freevo-users] What hardware to buy?

2003-09-26 Thread mark

I have an media box featuring a xp1800 (or 1900 I dont remember) which I have actually 
underclocked.  I will not be doing any transcoding on this box.  It sports 512 mb ram 
and a compact flash 32mb card used via an ide adaptor.  This contains the kernel and 
boot loader, everything else is pulled from a file server.  I use a Matrox Marvel G400 
for tvout usinf DirectFB.  My sound card is an RME DIGI 96/8 PAD.  For IR I'm using an 
IRMAN.  I have successfully used this box to play audio and video files.  I have 
ripped audio but only outside of freevo as yet.  I am not currently looking at video 
recording, but have ripped dvd s without transcoding (again outside of freevo)  

I have a file server for all media which uses NFS rather than SAAMBA.  It contains an 
1TB Raid5 array and uses a 1.3ghz celleron to provide software raid5.  I wanted a lot 
of space as I'm looking for very high quality media.  I will not be using lossy audio 
compression and at the moment am storing dvd as mpeg2 rather than Divx.

This is a pretty long answer to your question, but the thing is everyone does it 
differently.  It depends on your budget, aims and the comproises you are prepared to 
make.  I strongly suggest you make your choices carefully.  Think about noise, price, 
heat and long term goals.  If you will have a file server I suggest you think about 
net booting.  I think one of my best decisions was to make the media box diskless.

Mark

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:00:21 -0400
"Shane Crosby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've been wanting to build a freevo for a while, and I've finally secured a 
> machine to dedicate to it.
> 
> So far it has:
> 
> Pentium 4 2GHz
> 256MB RAM
> 
> That's it.  So this machine is essentially an empty canvas for me to work 
> with.  What I would like to do is build the best possible freevo for the 
> lowest possible price.
> 
> The machine will be outfitted with a 160GB drive.
> 
> What are your suggestions for TV Card, Video Out card, DVD Drive, RS232 
> remote, and anything else I'll need?
> 
> Also, will 256MB be enough memory?
> 
> My ideal setup will be a machine with remote control, DVD playback support 
> and a huge Mp3 collection mounted over samba.
> 
> Thanks in advance!  I'm looking forward to building this as soon as I can 
> afford the parts.
> 
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[Freevo-users] What hardware to buy?

2003-09-26 Thread Shane Crosby
Hi,

I've been wanting to build a freevo for a while, and I've finally secured a 
machine to dedicate to it.

So far it has:

Pentium 4 2GHz
256MB RAM
That's it.  So this machine is essentially an empty canvas for me to work 
with.  What I would like to do is build the best possible freevo for the 
lowest possible price.

The machine will be outfitted with a 160GB drive.

What are your suggestions for TV Card, Video Out card, DVD Drive, RS232 
remote, and anything else I'll need?

Also, will 256MB be enough memory?

My ideal setup will be a machine with remote control, DVD playback support 
and a huge Mp3 collection mounted over samba.

Thanks in advance!  I'm looking forward to building this as soon as I can 
afford the parts.

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