RE: [Freevo-users] X11 and TV Out ** WORKING **

2003-06-04 Thread Alan Murrell
Hi Tommy,

> (http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=296#KPLE) yet ?
> Check out the the item marked New (Mandrake 9.0),

Looks like those are for the EPIA-M ?

> Maybe you will have to use them in order to get the
> "Device" parameters to work.

Actually, it seems that my problem was with the
version of X Windows that I was using.  I was running
4.3.1(??), from the Mandrake 9.1 install.  However,
the EPIA trident_drv.o module supplied by VIA is for
4.2.0.  So, I:

  - reinstalled a bare-bones Mandrake 9.1 (I didn't
want to have to deal with all the dependencies I would
run into if I just removed the RPMS);
  - downloaded and installed the XFree86 4.2.0
binaries from ftp.xfree86.org;
  - dropped in your XF86Config file (I had to do a
little minor tweaking of the drivers to be loaded)

Result: I now have twm displaying on my screen (it's
as ugly as heck, but that's onlt the first step!)

Next step: get Freevo downloaded and installed so I
can really test out it's performance under X.

My goal, actually, is to have a system that can
support both framebuffer and X.  Why?  Why not? :-)

Thanks for your help!

Alan


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RE: [Freevo-users] X11 and TV Out

2003-06-03 Thread Tommy Killander
Hi Alan,

Have tried VIAs drivers (http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=296#KPLE) yet ?
Check out the the item marked New (Mandrake 9.0), maybe this can help you...
Anyway, there is a README in that package that might be helpfull.

Maybe you will have to use them in order to get the "Device" parameters to
work.

/TK

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> Hi Tommy,
>
> > will be of little use since you are using an EPIA
> > board, right ?
>
> Correct.
>
> > You should probably use KLE133 drivers for EPIA
>
> Hrm, Mandrake 9.1 detected them as "Trident Cyberblade
> (generic)", which runs well on my monitor.  Perhaps I
> will give that a try first, but with the ModeLines you
> suggest, and see how that works (i.e., I'll with the
> same XF86Config file as you posted, but replacing your
> board with the generic Trident Cyberblade)
>
> > Anyway here it is:
>
> Thank you; I will let you know how it goes.
>
> Alan
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RE: [Freevo-users] X11 and TV Out

2003-06-03 Thread Alan Murrell
Okay, so I'm making a little progress.  I am getting
the "ModeLines"; in fact, everything seems to be
loading, except my screen is still blank (but a sort
of darker blank, if you know what I mean?)

Running 'ps -aux' confirms that Freevo is running:

root  1215  0.0  0.9  2380 1124 vc/1 S   
22:55   0:00 /bin/sh ./xfreevo
root  1220  0.0  0.4  1380  520 ?S   
22:55   0:00 /usr/sbin/lircd -
root  1221  0.0  0.5  2300  612 vc/1 S   
22:55   0:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/xi
root  1222  0.1  7.1 19960 8476 ?S<  
22:55   0:01 /etc/X11/X :0
root  1224  0.0  0.9  2376 1132 vc/1 S   
22:55   0:00 /bin/sh /root/fre
root  1225  0.0  0.9  2384 1160 vc/1 S   
22:55   0:00 /bin/sh ./freevo
root  1227  0.4 29.3 45612 34676 vc/1S   
22:55   0:03 ./runtime/dll/fre
root  1235  0.0 29.3 45612 34676 vc/1S   
22:55   0:00 ./runtime/dll/fre
root  1236  0.0 29.3 45612 34676 vc/1S   
22:55   0:00 ./runtime/dll/fre
root  1241  0.0 29.3 45612 34676 vc/1S   
22:55   0:00 ./runtime/dll/fre
root  1242  0.0 29.3 45612 34676 vc/1S   
22:55   0:00 ./runtime/dll/fre

('./xfrevo' is my startup script, which I more or
lessgrabbed from the RH8 Freevo link in the
documentation)

So I am almost there; just gotta get the display to
actually show up on the screen instead of this "dark
blank" :-)

Alan


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RE: [Freevo-users] X11 and TV Out

2003-06-03 Thread Alan Murrell
Hello Tommy,

> I think that your problem with the TV output might
> be related to vertical and horisontal sync 
> frequencies.

Sorry, I know this is not so much a Freevo issue as an
X issue, but I thought I would post here to see if any
other ideas popped up.

I was able to get a litle further, but still get the
blank screen on my TV screen.  In looking at the
XFree86.0.log file, everything loads, but stops just
at the part where the ModeLines would loaded (my
laptop also uses the  "Trident Cyberblade (generic)",
and I compared the logs: everything was fairly
identical, up to the point where the Modelines were
loaded on my laptop, but nothing on the Freevo box)

I was just reminded that there is an X module for the
epia, so perhaps I will give that a try (though it's
proprietary, which is rather bad, but what can you do)

Thanks!

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RE: [Freevo-users] X11 and TV Out

2003-06-03 Thread Alan Murrell
Hi Tommy,

> will be of little use since you are using an EPIA
> board, right ?

Correct.

> You should probably use KLE133 drivers for EPIA

Hrm, Mandrake 9.1 detected them as "Trident Cyberblade
(generic)", which runs well on my monitor.  Perhaps I
will give that a try first, but with the ModeLines you
suggest, and see how that works (i.e., I'll with the
same XF86Config file as you posted, but replacing your
board with the generic Trident Cyberblade)

> Anyway here it is:

Thank you; I will let you know how it goes.

Alan


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RE: [Freevo-users] X11 and TV Out

2003-06-02 Thread Tommy Killander
 "Monitor Model"
HorizSync   31.5-48.5
VertRefresh 75
Option "dpms"

#Refresh Rate 60Hz
ModeLine "720x480" 26.7 720 736 808 896 480 481 484 497
ModeLine "720x576" 32.7 720 744 816 912 576 577 580 597
ModeLine "848x480" 31.5 848 864 952 1056 480 481 484 497
ModeLine "856x480" 31.7 856 872 960 1064 480 481 484 497
ModeLine "1024x512" 41.3 1024 1056 1160 1296 512 513 516 531
ModeLine "1280x768" 80.1 1280 1344 1480 1680 768 769 772 795
ModeLine "1440x1050" 126.2 1440 1536 1688 1936 1050 1051 1054 1087
#Refresh Rate 75Hz
ModeLine "720x480" 34.9 720 752 824 928 480 481 484 502
ModeLine "720x576" 42.6 720 720 792 944 576 577 580 602
ModeLine "848x480" 41.0 848 880 968 1088 480 481 484 502
ModeLine "856x480" 41.3 856 888 976 1096 480 481 484 502
ModeLine "1024x512" 53.3 1024 1072 1176 1328 512 513 516 535
ModeLine "1280x768" 103.0 1280 1360 1496 1712 768 769 772 802
ModeLine "1440x1050" 160.0 1440 1536 1696 1952 1050 1051 1054 1096
#Refresh Rate 85Hz
ModeLine "1280x768" 118.5 1280 1368 1504 1728 768 769 772 807
ModeLine "1440x1050" 184.5 1440 1544 1704 1968 1050 1051 1054 1103
ModeLine "848x480" 47.4 848 888 976 1104 480 481 484 505
EndSection

Section "Device"
# no known options
Identifier   "VIA CLE266 driver"
Driver   "via"
VendorName   "VIA CLE266 driver"
BoardName "VIA CLE266 driver"

#BusID

Option "ActiveDevice" "CRT,TV"
Option "TVType" "PAL"
Option "TVOutput" "S-video"
Option "TVVScan" "over"
Option "TVDotCrawl"

EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier   "Screen0"
Device   "VIA CLE266 driver"
Monitor  "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth32

Subsection "Display"
Depth   32
Modes   "800x600"

EndSubsection

EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection



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> Hello Joakim,
>
> > This is how the XF86Config on a 10k EpiaM looks for
> > me.
>
> [SNIP]
>
> Looks like this is from Freevix, correct?
> Unfortunately, that didn;t help; same issue.  I
> actually took another XF86Config file from an earlier
> version of Freevix, which did run for me before, but
> unfortunately does not seem to work now (I still only
> get the blank screen)
>
> Thank you, though!
>
> Alan
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Re: [Freevo-users] X11 and TV Out

2003-06-02 Thread Alan Murrell
Hello Joakim,

> This is how the XF86Config on a 10k EpiaM looks for
> me.

[SNIP]

Looks like this is from Freevix, correct? 
Unfortunately, that didn;t help; same issue.  I
actually took another XF86Config file from an earlier
version of Freevix, which did run for me before, but
unfortunately does not seem to work now (I still only
get the blank screen)

Thank you, though!

Alan


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Re: [Freevo-users] X11 and TV Out

2003-06-02 Thread Joakim Berglund

> Hello,
> 
> > What you could check is the jumper settings for the
> > S-Video port.
> 
> Sorry, I should have clarifed: I can see the BIOS
> output and bootup messages on the TV screen when the
> RCA Video Out is plugged in.  It is when I do "startx"
> that the TV screen then goes blank (i.e., no X
> Windows), though if I use a monitor instead, it works
> fine.

Hi there!

This is how the XF86Config on a 10k EpiaM looks for me.

Joakim Berglund

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Anaconda Configured"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
#

InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
# added these few options in. cb
Option "allowmouseopenfail"
Option "blank time" "0"
Option "standby time"   "0"
Option "suspend time"   "0"
Option "off time"   "0"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

#FontPath   "unix/:7100"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"

EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "extmod"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
Option  "Xleds" "1 2 3"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc105"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
#Option "XkbVariant"""
#Option "XkbOptions"""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
# Modified by mouseconfig
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Device""/dev/mouse"
Option  "Protocol"  "IMPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "no"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
HorizSync   30-60
VertRefresh 50-125
Option "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
# no known options
Identifier   "VESA driver (generic)"
Driver   "via"
VendorName   "VESA driver (generic)"
BoardName"VESA driver (generic)"
Option   "ActiveDevice" "TV"
Option   "TVType" "PAL"
Option   "TVVScan" "over"

#BusID
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier   "Screen0"
Device   "VESA driver (generic)"
Monitor  "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth24

Subsection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection

EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection



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Re: [Freevo-users] X11 and TV Out

2003-06-02 Thread Alan Murrell
Hello,

> What you could check is the jumper settings for the
> S-Video port.

Sorry, I should have clarifed: I can see the BIOS
output and bootup messages on the TV screen when the
RCA Video Out is plugged in.  It is when I do "startx"
that the TV screen then goes blank (i.e., no X
Windows), though if I use a monitor instead, it works
fine.

HTH a bit more :-)

Thanks.

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RE: [Freevo-users] X11 and TV Out

2003-06-01 Thread Tommy Killander


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> Subject: [Freevo-users] X11 and TV Out
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am playing with using an EPIA board (800MHz), which
> has built in TV out, etc.
>
> I have Freevo setup to run under X11, and it works
> great when the outputis to a monitor.  However, when I
> plug the composite TV cable from the TV to the TV Out
> on the board, and restart, all I get is a blank screen
> on my TV when I start X.
>
> I am thinking that there is something I need to put
> into my XFree86 config file to handle the TV, but I am
> unsure as to what I need to enter.  WOuld someone be
> able to provide some assistance?
>

Is the BIOS screen showing up on your TV, or is the TV-out completly "dead"
?
Check that TV out is set to Enabled in your BIOS - you might want to enable
both TV and VGA output to make it easier to move the EPIA between the TV-set
and the Monitor.
Tip: Optimize the X11 settings for your TV-set; modern monitors are more
forgiving than TVs :)

> Thank you.
>
> Alan
>
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Re: [Freevo-users] X11 and TV Out

2003-06-01 Thread Paul de Bruin
> I am playing with using an EPIA board (800MHz), which
> has built in TV out, etc.
> 
> I have Freevo setup to run under X11, and it works
> great when the outputis to a monitor.  However, when I
> plug the composite TV cable from the TV to the TV Out
> on the board, and restart, all I get is a blank screen
> on my TV when I start X.

What you could check is the jumper settings for the S-Video port. The
connector can be set to either RCA Video or S/PDIF. This had us pulling
out our hairs for a couple of hours because it was set to S/PDIF by
default.

hth,
PdB


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